garu, it works for me. I havn’t had a stability problem in fedora.

where do i find the page that has the important dates for Fedora 8? It used to be on the front page of fedoraproject.org, but i cant find it now

starbird humn…but, would you recommend it for a noob?like 2 and a half months using linux?Because I know that the best way to start with linux, coming from a windows environment is by trying “ubuntu” (the easiest one. But I got another computer, which ubuntu doesnt play well…Did some research and found out that Fedora is a very powerful distro.but dont really know if its good for a noob!)

jpackage-fc” what could I do?

you mean http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/Schedule ? it’s a “Fedora 8 Schedule” link on the front. upgrade to a supported release… fc4 is no longer supported.

garu, I can’t really say. I’ve been using fedora since core1, so some of it is pretty routine to me.

starbird humn…I see

can I do that from within the server?

starbird thanks alot…I’ll give it a try…cause what’s the worst that can happen, right :o!

garu, I would say backup your current system if you can, and give it a shot. Maybe try a few distros and see which you like best.

not easily. You can use the f7 dvd to upgrade it. You will need to boot off the dvd and run the installer. It also might be worth backing up your data and just doing a clean install.

starbird humn…oki doki…thanks alot

OK, those are images already available from EC2, I guess I’ll need to figure out how to build my own image

http://fedorasolved.org/installation-solutions/installing-fedora-using-pxe-images/

EC2? whats that?

has anyone set up PHP-syslog-ng on fedora 7? im just curious what user ’syslogfeeder’ is since it is not mentioned in the install notes or config files

Amazon Elasitic Cloud, you run Xen instances hosted by Amazon Elastic

cool.

Hello, I am trying to install Fedora Core 7 on my Intel Core 2 Quad-system, I downloaded the x86_x64-iso and have tried to install, but all I get is “RIP Error, Not syncing Aiee” and stuff. Any suggestions? And this is almost directly after I select “Install or upgrade” from the boot menu.

[Randy]: not sure… you might try booting with ‘maxcpus=1′ and see if that lets you get any further?

Ok, I tried with “nodmraid” aswell, I thought that maybe the onboard RAID-stuff didn’t work properly. nirik; but does maxcpus=1 mean that I will only be able to use one of my 4 cores?

for the install, yes, then you can upgrade and if it’s that same issue it would be fixed in a updated kernel. I have only seen that on duos tho… no idea if it’s the same issue on quads

Oh ok, I will try that. I need to get this workstation up before tomorrow Thanks for now anyway.

hi guys how do I perform an uninstall on a terminal

of what?

opsec I have been following some settings concerning bttv wich guided me to make an executable file ./filename opsec it caused be trouble so I want to uninstall it

i’m not sure what you’re referring to the only proper ways to “uninstall” in fedora are rpm -e package_name .. or yum remove|erase package_name

_stever, so look back at what you did and undo it

Southern_Gentlem; i have but one question. who wrote Revisor?

several people

any #Fedora-going names?

mainly daMaestro and kanarip

ok but how to remove the unistall

ah thanks

sorry the install

anyone notice firefox actin up lately ?

is there a gnome gui I can use to add an application to init. it isn’t a service, but just an app I want run as my user.

lostson; hmm?

downhillgames, which if you had went to the revisor webpage you would have already learned

Session

Southern_Gentlem; that’s ok… it’s using my resources atm and i cannot do so IRC was open

That would work, but I’d really like it to start when the machine boots (folding at home)

oh… um… chkconfig or a cron job is your next stop, then

using pam_mount, is it possible to lookup the user’s home directory from ldap and use that as the mount point?

but neither of them will run as his user

then i guess he’s SOL

ron will do it when his user logs in cron

Southern_Gentlem I have gedit makedev copied the settings provided by the site then chmod u+x makedev and then ./makedev now I wont to uninstall the makedev want

make uninstall?

downhillgames, it’s not like revisor claims all your resources just because it thinks that’s funny…

hmm?

downhillgames yes I want to uninstall

i wasn’t complaining

ok

i was saying opening firefox probably isn’t wise during heavy load firefox with all it’s plugins and extensions, etc… kanarip; i’m curious about making “LiveDVDs” tho… i’m making and oversized CD atm and just hoping it will work

downhillgames, Live Optical Media just expands in size until you stop adding packages and doesn’t care what media you burn it to if you have dvd dual layer blue ray you could do a full install of Everything and get away with it or dual sided, another extension

kanarip; yup yup. ok. the *only* other quandary i find myself in is about about handling of multiple kernels on LiveCD boot up “LiveODD” hehe

Southern_Gentlem how do I remove it

downhillgames, we allow multiple kernels to be installed and make xen, pae and debug show up at the bootloader menu

err…. still wrong.. anyway… can i install a ‘kernel’ and a ‘kernel-PAE’ for 1 disc?

!java

aaah sweet!

downhillgames, you can even prefer a default with lm_preferred_kernel (iirc) or make your own stanzas with lm_stanzas

i’m not sure what stanzas is

there’s not much documentation on the full set of settings we take at this moment but /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/revisor/cfg.py should give you a general idea maybe

opsec how t remove it to*

look for “def options_set_defaults”

What would be the simplist rc.d file for me to use as a template?

alright

perlmonkey2, /etc/init.d/httpd is pretty simple

i’m by no means a dev, but i can read source well enough — depending

cool thanks

downhillgames, if you have questions, us answering those over the mailing list at http://lists.fedoraunity.org/mailman/listinfo/revisor-users builds us some documentation as well as gets other people involved

kanarip; i’d be concerned if Revisor used almost no resources putting together a compilation of packages into a LiveCD distro can’t be an “easy” task

_stever the same way you installed it

kanarip; i have my own avenue for documentation. frankly i don’t think anybody in the Linux world is doing it right except me *shrug*

./uninstall makedev?

speak of the devil. hi frozty_sa

evening

Southern_Gentlem am still not familliar with commands

so you created a script called ‘makedev’ and ran it? There isn’t any way to “uninstall” a script. You can try and look at it and reverse the actions it took, but that may be impossible. Consult with wherever you got the script for backout instructions.

nirik you mean I cannot undo what been done

a script is a sequence of commands… it might be reversable with other commands, but it might have changed the state of things and not be reversable. We don’t know since we don’t know what was in the script.

nirik it say while I install the script *** new device names *** makedev video ./makedev: line 15: 0: command not found

“command not found?” A: Run the command AS ROOT after switching users with “su –login” or “su -” in order to get root’s command PATH so the command WILL be found; don’t run “su” by itself. If it’s still not found, then either it’s not installed in a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you’ve spelled it incorrectly.

where did you get the script?

nirik http://www.linuxlabs.biz/articles/tvcard.html but it seems the page don’t open now

Howdy, i’m trying to install ATI drivers for my card and running into conflict issues with yum. I previously installed Nvidia drivers (after realizing its the wrong box) I followed this article: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Video-Drivers-on-Fedora-7-59919.shtml my results are: http://rafb.net/p/xwnANI15.html how do i resolve that conflict?

yum remove kmod-nvidia

nirik here’s what’s in the script http://rafb.net/p/o3uOpf46.html

i think i tried that, now it says i don’t have a package by that name.. i know i still have some nvdia files though…

you should be fine. It sounds like it didn’t run at all… it’s got typos in it.

nirik what do you mean?

the script as you posted it has syntax errors that would prevent it from doing anything except echo’ing out a line and then erroring.

if i do: yum list | grep nvidia i still show a short list of files from that last installation

nirik it’s just that on the shutdown screen it repeats the *** new device names *** makedev video ./makedev: line 15: 0: command not found

how do i remove them cleanly?

sounds like it’s trying to run it on shutdown. Reverse whatever steps you did to install the script so it runs at shutdown?

nirik and reboots

where did you place the script? Did you run any other commands with the script as an argument?

nirik reverse! how? no just ./makedev I was using su -

so you downloaded the script, then did “./makedev” and thats it? what directory are you located in? do a ‘pwd’ command to find out.

I have gedit makedev copied the settings provided by the site then chmod u+x makedev and then ./makedev [root@localhost ~]#

ok, from that I don’t see why it would run on shutdown. It shouldn’t.

having trouble uninstalling NVIDIA drivers so i can install ATI - please look at paste: http://rafb.net/p/3drCJ289.html

nirik maybe not on shutdown it’s on reboots am not sure nirik can’t we just delete the script or something nirik or at least stop its activity

rpm -qa | grep -i nvidia

sure, you should be able to delete it fine, my point is that nothing in what you have told me would cause it to run on shutdown or reboot… only if you manually run it.

nirik so do I perform a rm

it shouldn’t matter. Can you reboot and/or shutdown and confirm that it’s still outputting what you are saying?

nirik sure brb

results are empty

then it’s not installed, as your paste already indicated yum install kmod-fglrx

what are those files that i saw when doing that last paste (yum list | grep nvidia)

what is available via yum correction, what is available from your currently configured repos via yum

hi, Im trying to install fedora, but when booting the instalation from the CD Im getting a Kernel Panic “not syncing” please this is urgent… I need this server up ASAP any idea?

polishpaul_, http://rafb.net/p/xwnANI15.html says it conflicting with the ATI-fglrx package you tried installing from ATI

nirik on shutdown and restart modprobe:wanrning: /etc/modeprbe.d/makedev ignoring bad line starting with (etc)

so you copied that script into that directory? is that the script you created? ‘rm /etc/modprobe.d/makedev’ to remove it… confirm first that it’s the script you made.

polishpaul_, rpm -e ATI-fglrx then follow

nirik yes it is and there are to in /etc/modprobe.d makedev and makedev~ nirik it got installed twice

yeah i’m wondering about both issues - as far as the ATI conflict, can i start using those drivers (i’m dealing with horrible resolution now)? Also i would like to keep my system as clean and organized as possible, shouldn’t i clean up those nvidia files in http://rafb.net/p/3drCJ289.html ?

the version with a ~ at the end is likely an editor save file version of it. Simply remove both those files.

polishpaul_, for support in here i suggest you use the livna drivers polishpaul_, nothing to clean up rpm -q kmod-nvidia

i told you, they’re not installed

it says its needed by ATI-fglrx = 8.40.4-1.f7 is needed by (installed) ATI-fglrx-control-center-8.40.4-1.f7.i386

been through it

remove both

nirik done both removed

yeah i’m trying to use the livna ones

but are you listening?

he is not reading that is certain

nirik I will go for an another reboot

rpm -q kmod-nvidia = not installed, what else to remove? i’m kinda new and still trying to find my way around rpm vs yum

read the links provided, you do not have any nvidia rpms installed from anywhere

nirik to checked on

sorry (reading again)

man yum, man rpm

nirik and thanks for your time

polishpaul_, next time try yum -d 0 list |grep nvidia

no problem… good luck

and your will get something like this if any are installed

he’s using it incorrectly

nirik later

http://rafb.net/p/KXFLmO60.html

that’s not what he wants

he misread the results

he thought he had installed nvidia .. but he was just using yum incorrectly he wants the ati kmod he doesn’t know how to use yum or rpm

yep time to train him ok time to play road apple

ok, i’ve been man yum back and forth.. forgive me i’m a newb

Is the Seek_Error_Rate output on smartctl supposed to increment?

nirik thanks man problem solved

so what am i seeing when i list yum and see the last pastes? aren’t those packages installed on my system?

thanks to all of you guys

“man yum”, “yum list installed | grep nvidia” will do

wow.. no i guess i need a lesson in man thanx juanmabc

can you tell me, where i can get additional information about my cpu than /proc/cpuinfo shows? like cpuz @winblows

whats the status of touchscreen drivers?

night all

OK, this is fun.. i just landed back into my desktop, but its not running a window manager? how would i start gnome? i’m assuming i’m only running X but not gnome?

Can someone recommend me a good RAID controller card (PCI or PCIe) (SATA or IDE) that’s hardware-based and works WELL with F7?

Anyone know of a world clock app for Fedora? Apparently there’s one in SLED 10 but for the life of me I can’t find it…

Kage[Work]: we use 3ware at work

Im getting a Kernel panic while installing, anyidea about this?

for all linux web hosting builds

i have an idea .. you’re kernel is panicking

right…

I need some desperate help here.. i’m messing with video drivers, and now i’m stuck without a windows manager… can’t even look things up at this point - how would i start my windows manager?

Ok, wait, hold on… lemme re-phrase this.. (Revised) Can someone recommend me a good RAID controller card (PCI or PCIe) (SATA or IDE) that’s hardware-based and works WELL with F7, AND supports RAID 10 (or equivilent)? RAID 0+1/1+0 (whatever it’s called), or anything similar is fine

what’s wrong with 3are? what kinda problems are u having?

I have no problems, I just need to buy a reliable one I need recommendations Preferably something on NewEgg

are they failing on u?

No, I need to buy a new one This is also for a 64-bit machine Running Intel C2D Xeon

can anyone help me with getting my windows manager back? my regular system is down and i just screwed this one up

I’ve noticed you can get “64 bit” RAID cards Which I don’t know what that is.. :/

maybe they’re talking about drivers being available which is a pain in the ukw with 64 bit os’s

which is almost completely unnecessary aside from development and some server markets “because my machine can do it” is the worst “reason” _ever_ to run a 64bit OS of ANY brand/kind

tru

just so that’s said

how do i start my windows manager?

what desktop environment? KDE? GNOME? XFCE?

gnome i believe - its the default f7 install (i just screwed up with the vid drivers)

yup

i’m basically stuck in this chat as far as my desktop goes :-/

wait, you got kicked back into the Linux console? (text-based)

well, here’s a brief.. (just my luck lately): installed nvidia drivers (screwed up resolution) on an ATI system, uninstalled (i think), then installed ATI, ran some command, before i know it i’m reloading the desktop without windows manager and when i drop to console, now my monitor is ‘out of range’ so i can’t even drop to console!

Interface 64-bit/66MHz PCI2.2 Wtf is that?

polishpaul_; did you use .run files to install and uninstall these drivers or RPMs? Kage[Work]; a 64-bit PCI slot? kinda rare, but they do exist

yeah at some steps

It’s longer than a normal one Huh, weird…

polishpaul_; you need to do a *lot* of work to get your install back to normal :/ hang on.. *sigh* where did i see the advisory/note

sonofa gun…

oh how do i wish you’d of done this yesterday i clear my browser cache daily hehe

so can i just start gnome?i mean i got a GUI up and running (X i’m assuming?)

when you used the .run you “murdalized” your DRI libs you need to reinstall Xorg or some shiz to get them back… *is googling*

ty ty

polishpaul_; http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2109 it’s a copy of the original from the mailing list

ok, i can’t see the chat anymore but thanks for the link, i’m reading it now )

hi 8 ginning postfix/pickup[20186]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: does fedora support mysql ?

um yes

why postfix gives this error

Because postfix in Fedora doesn’t.

so do i need to recompile it ?

I love this yum check-update that shows a boatload of updates then a yum update and it shows no updates. Are the Fedora repositories that whacked?

you may not be hitting the same mirror. yum install yum-fastestmirror

I normally use best John. I have the debug level set to 10. That doesn’t display which mirror it found. I’ve flip flopped between the best vs fastest option.s.

best?

Probably should force it to use the redhat repository rather than figuring it out. Maybe it hit one of those bad mirrors. best might be obsolete now. I sort of prefer the kernel.org mirror. It might lag a day behind, but is normally accurate. Not good to do an update during the day since the changes and mirrors are in flux.

hi there someone can help me with an mdadm issue ? please

i doubt it. you’ve not given any information about your raid configuration

raid5 fc5 a disk crash i remove it with mdadm /dev/md0 -r /dev/sda1 nd first mdadm /dev/md0 -f /dev/sda1 then i’ve changed phisycally the disk then i’ve fdisk new disk …create /dev/sda1 …type ld and w then mdadm /dev/md0 –add /dev/sda1 and everything works fine….rebuilding and so on… after reboot i’ve found array degraded and with mdadm –examine /dev/sda1 : no such devices…. to solve it just fdisk /dev/sda and then w and mdadm –examine /dev/sda1 tell me that disk is ready to add what can i do ?

updated mdadm.conf before rebooting ?

BULLE how ? the partition is the same /dev/sda1

ehm your mdadm.conf most likely contains uuid for each disk that will have changed, when you replaced the disk just look inyour mdadm conf

uuid is just for /dev/md0 .and not for each disk and now mdadm –add /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 Cannot open /dev/sda1: Device or resource busy uff any idea ?

any idea, how i could get the codename etc. of my cpu? cpuinfo doesn’t show them

iT|Freel, google

zcat of course this would be a solution, but can’t i read it out of the hardware?! winblows can do so ao it’s stored there *so

how can i grep for lines containing any of the lines in another file?

iT|Freel, those marketing codenames aren’t stored in the cpu. the app looks them up.

might be in dmesg after a fresh boot? what info are you looking for specifically?

oh nm, think i found it

nirik multiplicator, frontsidebus, l2 cache, voltage

yeah, look in cpuinfo for the model/type and then look it up on the net…

i know the model name, but on amd page i can’t find a data-sheet

dmidecode might give some info.

whats the model? I would look at wikipedia or the like. ie, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_microprocessors

it’s AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ there are at least some information if been there already

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_64_microprocessors#.22Windsor.22_.28F2_.26_F3.2C_90_nm.29

but can’t find ‘multiplicator’ yes, this is where i am damn it i am kind of stupid

AMDs have a 200MHz FSB.

it is standing there Mult and ‘technology’ ? has to be something with an µ

Between 0.90 and 0.65 micrometers still I think.

is it the value with nanomaters? then i know it

oh boy/sam

oh boy oberto!

Any ideas on how to set up a bridged/redundant wifi connection?

maybe try to setup an 802.11q link over two wireless interfaces. search google for channel bonding and/or 802.11q

I don’t think my router supports that… 802.11q that is I think I’ll save this for another night… Thanks for the right keywords puzzled

my pleasure

i’m on a pretty fresh fedora 7 installation and am getting lots of “selinux permission checks on files labeled file_t are being denied” and similar messages in the setroubleshoot browser. i’ve never seen this sort of thing before

wow, that’s pretty cool… can’t wait until channel bonding is a widespread tool for end users, that is

what is that program that is sort of like google documents.. but you can host it on your own server? someone told me the name but i forgot where I wrote it down.. I basically want to host “multiple” editing session with other users…

Woah, just got quite a scare when I saw ATrpms in a yum install.. Didn’t know that they mirrored Livna- hehe. Er, I mean Fedora, not Livna. No, I meant Livna. Whoops. Er, both, now that I actually check Gobby/Sobby.

thanks.. ppl recommnded screen over gobby what is sobby?

The server component of it. Screen is… interesting, at best.

i see people say they like to use their own tools

You can’t have two people adding in different places in screen, as far as I can think of.

and not have to compromise to just gobby editor hmmm

ricky, you can, but it’s a little tricky to setup the first time. (security reasons)

you can

I got a chance to play around with Gobby a bit- my biggest wish is obvious for it to work like Vim

hmm

as zcat said, you need to fiddle around a bit with file persmissions so all can open the screen socket etc

o.o

yeah, you have to add an acl, chmod something (i don’t remember what), and add something else.

OK, I guess I was assuming Vim when I said this. But even in a simple case of the same user in two locations with screen -x, I don’t see how you could use Vim as a multi-person editor.

on a related ATRPMS note, i note that yum-priorities was updated, which includes the fix for properly excluding obsoletes. so, now it’s “safe” to mix repos again. now that’s fixed i can update the fedorasolved howto

can anyone confirm that Cinelerra is in fedora 7?

pembo13_com; www.freshrpms.net

downhillgames, ok, thanks

it sure isn’t… but you can get it there don’t use freshrpms with livna…

hmm, i already use livna

opsec; see what i mean about shiz like Cinelerra (fresh/liv) -_- then you cannot use Cinelerra from freshrpms without recompiling it

ok

hello I can I reinstall a single file that was corrupted from an already installed rpm package?

Nope.

mgois; what file?

it’s a java class that is part of an application a .java I changed it by mistake

you *could* download the RPM directly from the mirror and open it with file-roller extract *just* that file then copy it over with root i’m not about to say this is sane or anything, but it’s an idea also *make sure to check the version* but yeah… that or reinstall the package (yum remove, yum install) night fellas

isn’t there a way to just reinstall that single file?

No.

oh hi

Let stop Microsoft’s ooxml sign here http://www.noooxml.org/petition Let’s*

like that is going to do anything

whats wrong with ooxml i think i’m tired of hating everything microsoft does

Besides the fact that it’s an awful “standard”?

5 years ago i would have been like “omg ooxml is evil damn microsoft!” now i’m like “meh”

If Linus Torvalds put out a standard like that it would still be awful.

so if it’s so bad then no one will use it

because it is M$ everyone will have to use it

It’s so awful it doesn’t deserve to be ratified.

does anyone know if the fedora ’selinux-policy-targeted-sources’ from f4 are equal to ’selinux-policy-devel’ in f7 i’m trying to build some application which uses a spec file for fedora core 4

no way

The SELinux policy structure has changed a bit.

i see this application (shibboleth) has some apache module - so selinux is needed (as socket operations are performed)

Just twiddle the appropriate booleans.

but if i build the rpm - which are the appropriate deps for this (the application only provides /etc/selinux/targeted/src/policy/domains/program/*.te and corresponding *.fc)

is thee something like snoopy (logs commands execured by a user) for fedora ?

i download this perl-support.zip and for some reason i can look up my perl modlues. any idea.

That mechanism for installing policies is obsolete.

anyone?

perlsyntax, 1) this isn’t #perl. 2) fedora doesn’t provide “.zip”’s

perlsyntax, whats the question

hey guys how do I display sysinfo?

this means that i have to rewrite the policy, right?

Chousho, what in aprticular are you after ?

model number of my laptop

i said i install this perl-support and for some reason on my vim i can’t look up my perl modules for some reason.

No, it means you have to follow the new process for installing them.

perlsyntax, you mean sysntax highligting for perl ?

is there some kind of migration faq for this available?

Chousho, look at free,uptime,top,vmstat

http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/21/a-step-by-step-guide-to-building-a-new-selinux-policy-module/

i got to my menu and go to run and i go to instaled perl module.

thx

thanks, I found it

and not anything show up

You don’t actually need most of that guide though. Hrm. In fact, what you need isn’t in there. Hang on… http://sepolicy-server.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=module-overview

not sure what going on. ?

We have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.

so, i should create a foo.pp for packaging into foo.rpm and then do a semodule -i foo.pp in %post correct?

Check the wiki to see how to handle the packaging side of SELinux.

Does anyone here have VMware Player installed on fc6 (host)

have you looked at the fedorasolved.org write up?

sure haven’t… is that related? haha I see it is… thanks

PenguinECE, I have VMWare installed.

I’m just trying to figure out why the configuration script is dying on me… it complains about a nonexistant member in a struct

What is the exact error you are getting?

http://rafb.net/p/CBLxXn74.html

Have you applied the any-any patch for Fedora Core 6? It is a patch to VMWare.

no I haven’t I read on a forum post that the any-any patch wouldn’t help because I hadn’t gotten past the config script but perhaps I should try it anyways

perhaps you should use fedora help forums http://fedorasolved.org/server-solutions/vmserver-install/

but irc is so much more fun

http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/vmplayer-install/

ahh yes, platius has pointed me tehre and I am reading it between irc channels, thanks

A few lines down it has a link to the any-any update which you should apply.

wb

Hi opsec.

On an unrelated note, does anyone else have 3 update packages that refuse to install due to dependency issues?

don’t ever accept fedora packages from random people there are official mirrors for that

dpaste.com

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7/

http://www.howtoforge.com/installing_a_lamp_system_with_fedora_core_6_p2 and I am setting up my fedora core 6 server. I can ping things on my network but I can not outside. What should I do?

http://fedorasolved.org/server-solutions/lamp-stack/

ok ill look there thank you

http://dpaste.com/19193/ though the issue is with only 3 of the packages I believe

no, the problem is because you are mixing repos

PenguinECE, try to disable the livna repository, or stop trying to update faad2 and vlc.

echo “repo list” | yum shell | grep enabled dpaste.com you need to choose ONE 3rd party repo .. you cannot have freshrpms and livna enabled at the same time

let me guess, using atrpms…..

you are going to end up reinstalling sooner than later with a setup like that http://fedoraos.org/repositories.html

http://dpaste.com/19194/

ok, choose either livna or freshrpms and remove the other repos rpms.. i suggest you choose livna

Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 1 failed [FAILED]

iptables -A INPUT -m state –state NEW -m tcp -p tcp –dport 80 -j ACCEPT try that

ok will do iptables: command not found

how do I permanently diable a repo?

su -u su –login

su -u

which repo?

freshrpms

rpm -qa | grep -i freshrpms rpm -e package_name

ah okay, I was trying to do it through yum O.o thanks

Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] filter [ OK ] [ OK ] iptables-restore: line 1 failed [FAILED]

don’t paste here

ok where do i paste?

you’re going to make people mad dpaste.com

sorry im new

doesn’t matter if you’re new

ill paste there form now on any more suggestions opsec?

cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables dpaste.com

http://dpaste.com/19196/

iptables -F

ok

you are just trying to start your firewall correct?

I am trying to let me connect to the outside internet. I am trying to set up my lamp server. I had choosen to disable the firewall at the start and then later when things are working start it back up.

mlucool, If the http://dpaste.com/19196/ paste you showed is the entire contents of the /etc/sysconfig/iptables file you have a few lines missing there.

it is the whole table. what else should be there

more than a few

:/ so something didnt install right or I messed something up

mlucool, For a start the single line in there is trying to add a rule to a table that is not present. Hence the error at line one. mlucool, iptables -cvn -L what do you see?

correction iptables -xvn -L what do you see?

http://dpaste.com/19197/

mlucool, Ok. You have no firewall at all. mlucool, system-config-securitylevel will restore it.

that is fine as long as i can connect to the internet i will restore it after things are working was the plan (or as the guide told me to)

 

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mlucool, What guide?

chkconfig –level 345 iptables on && service iptables start

http://www.howtoforge.com/installing_a_lamp_system_with_fedora_core_6_p3

i gave you the guide to use disregard that http://fedorasolved.org/server-solutions/lamp-stack/

ok ill keep following yours then

it’s not mine it’s the one we use here

the one you gave me I mean, do I do system-config-securitylevel now or chkconfig now?

depends if you want a gui

I didnt install gimp, only x window

what does gimp have to do with any of this?

so no I do not want a gui i didnt mean gimp i ment GNOME

then you can use system-config-securitylevel-tui .. or the chkconfig command i gave you

ok ok i did that that worked! thank you http://dpaste.com/19199/ when it wouldnt work I tried to ping google and still nothing

So you chose an IP address at random, or is that one assigned by DHCP? Looks much like he decided he needed a static ip address for some reason and didn’t set a gateway.

i choose one that i wanted, i turned off dhcp, i added it to nameserver tho in /etc/resolv.conf I added it….it worked for when I had to do this for ubuntu :/

What does that have to do with anything? Did you, or did you not, set a gateway? It’s a simple question.

I do not think so

but in system-config-network did you turn off obtain ip from dns

i choose manual when installing fedora so let me check was it says there now

system-config-network-tui he has no DE

Ok… if “you do not think so”, then how do you expect packets to get out of this 192.168.1.x network you’ve created?

Is there a way to find out what video card a computer has without physically opening the case?

/sbin/lspci /sbin/lspci | grep VGA will do it

ok I changed the gateway and restarted, now I can ping ip addresses, but cant ping sites like google.com (sorry to be such a pain)

So did you choose some other random address for the DNS server you wanted to use, or did you choose the one your ISP provides?

I thought for the DNS server was just my IP address, as I am using dyndns.com to let me use a dynamic address. for DNS server should I put my IP address?

anyone know of k3b is available for windows?

anyone here know how i can setup a server and then have computers connect to that server to login. so no matter what computer the users login from they always get the same user info

i have someone asking about dvd burning and i would doubt he’s on linux

as in their home directories are networked

I thought there’s a CD burning readme on the mirrors somewhere

okay, I’ve downloaded fedora7 686 live torrent, and I got these little pictures of same on desktop, how do I get it from there to be a OS?

mount /home on nfs

i have tried that before but often it will fail to mount /home on nfs and cause a whole slew of issues

uh, the live CD *is* an OS

i need something more reliable

it’s not a CD it’s on HD

what do you want to do with the .iso ?

probably a stupid question, but, in /etc/cron.daily, do you need to specify anything in the cron config to put the ‘./’ in front of the script name?

I’d like to see what it’s like compared to Ubuntu 7.04…

i just told the person to google for “open source dvd burner on windows”

drop a script or a symlink to the script in that dir

infrarecorder

mwilson do you have any time to help me? I am sorry im such a newb and would really appreciate it

that’s all that’s needed, then just tell cron when to execute that dir?

burn to CD and boot or copy to USB drive and boot, or create a virtual machine, etc.

I don’t know how to burn a CD

if you got some matches or a lighter, its quite easy

…what started this problem with logwatch is that all of a sudden, it stopped running, hehe

cron already does that dir once daily

yeah, just is not running one script in it,

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/readme-burning-isos/

okay, ty

read root’s mail

I don’t know what other answer I can give you than the one I already did. Your ISP *does* provide DNS service for a reason, after all.

nothin’ there, i re-did the symlink for logwatch, it looked like it was in there wrong, time will tell,

is there somewhere I can find that address through commands or must I call them?

DNS? get it from your ISP if you have to use DHCP and figure out what DNS servers it is issued

Hello

is it the Connection-specific DNS suffix? (I see that when i type in ipconfig on my windows machine)

no ipconfig /all

oh I see it thank you!

I don’t know what the hell I’m doing, I put it in the DVD slot but no lights came on, what now?

now where do i put that lol

configure DNS tab in Fedora’s system-config-network you are trying to burn a Fedora live CD?

yes

which burn software you using?

btw, thanks for the help “_

Iwant to go from ubuntu7.04 to fedora 7

It has name, device, us dhcp, static ip, netmask, and default gateway ip, nothing about configure dns tab

I didn’t know i had software

are you using Ubuntu to make this disc?

yes

ubuntu is not gonna be happy

my box is an old compaq5k

You could try burning with k3b apt-get install k3b

I have several CD of Ubuntu 7.04 ect… okay ty

From Ubuntu’s shipit service I imagine

yes

how reliable can linux write to NTFS? reliably* as in, basic things like mp3s and word documents.. (not huge ISOs or anything)

files are files. doesn’t matter what they are.

quite reliably via ntfs-3g

anyhow, not that I’ve tried it, I don’t run windows anymore, but I hear ntfs support is excellent these days

of course with the usual backup

i just want to write word documents back and forth - that’s cool

JohnMahowald are you sure it was there

what’s a good (relatively rich) video editor for *nix? preferably comparable to apple’s final cut pro

Final Cut Pro (OS X is technically a Unix)

nonlinear editors like kino exist but aren’t comperable to final cut pro from what I’ve heard I am sure you can configure DNS via s-c-network

Once a user is setup in Fedora can you change their UID without deleting the account?

sure

Yes, but it’s non-trivial.

ivazquez, it’s not a matter of just changing the UID in /etc/passwd?

Of course not.

and the ownership of any of the user’s files — ownership is stored on-disk as the UID, not the user’s name

you have to change all the ownership of files but, why bother?

ivazquez, doesn’t system-config-users let you edit the userid? of course you would need to chown everything in their directory afterwards

because 1337 is a slick uid

I’m taking my Intro to Linux course and that’s what the instructor said we could do to create a backdoor user with root permissions.

No clue. Never used s-c-u.

well sure. any user with uid is root basically oops, with uid 0 I mean

Or you could just build a setuid shell.

you could also use sudo and grant a user everything well, visudo, grant a user everything so they could then use sudo

ivazquez, it’s an intro course. I’m pretty sure that’s beyond us here.

actually it looks like system-config-users doesn’t let you edit the uid

If the partitioning step in the installer shows something like “mapper/pdc_gfdafedc” as a device name, that’s a dmraid device, right? I have two drives connected to the same controller — a master/slave pair — and the master drive is being picked up by dmraid for some reason, while the slave is simply “sdb”

should it not be a dmraid device? if so, you may have leftover raid metadata that needs erasing

Where would the metadata be stored?

damned if I know

I don’t think it’s even a RAID controller — it’s an nForce2, and there’s no RAID option in the BIOS I guess I could just try zeroing the whole drive

it’s probably near the beginning or end

are install cd isos still made?

Other than the rescue disc and boot.iso, no.

lame why

because DVD drives are cheap and common and a computer without one can still do a network install using the boot-only CD

in the demographic fedora cares about, anyway

can you install from a live cd?

what are the options for upgrading FC6 to F7 on a computer that I don’t have physical access to?

yes

dont even see minimal/boot-only/netinstall in fedora/releases/7/fedora/i386/iso

im running fedora 7 with an intel ich8 family hd audio controller, and i don’t have sound. can anyone help me fix this?

Get the rescue disc.

ok, thanks

i’ve done yum upgrades in the past but I’m nervous about the change to sda in f7

I haven’t run Fedora on one of those, but I’ve run Debian and sound worked fine, and I doubt there’d be any significant difference in the HDA sound driver between the two Check that your volume levels aren’t muted?

Yeah, the F7/libata thing will bite you if you have PATA.

my volume is up

ivazquez, how do I check that? Its a server donated to us (local Ultimate league)

Does it currently use hdX?

yep

Then it uses PATA.

thats what I figured. What are my options for upgrading? (other than asking the hosts to do it for us) we give the owner a free registration for the server so I don’t like bothering them much for our $65 per year

You could consider moving over to EL5. Some of the package versions might be tricky though.

i could but since I do all the development on fedora and I’m lazy, i like keeping things the same

Perhaps you should examine the package manifest before drawing a conclusion.

EL5 migration on a local system first.

CentOS migration. The CentOS installer doesn’t handle that case.

Of course not. It would be via yum.

all my other computers are already running f7. Looks like my best option is to ask them to plop in a CD and do the upgrade err dvd

Hi I’m having issues with amarok 1.4.7 on KDE 3.5.7.21-fc7 on Fedora 7

fantastic!

whenever I start amarok for the first time and press the play button on a song it hangs up until it breaks and kde ask me to terminate the application the second time I start it it works well have anyone experienced this issues with amarok too?

audacious ftw

thx

Is there a way to pipe find’s output to tar and ssh it to another box in a one-liner?

Sure, but you might be better off using cpio instead.

I’ve been running across that in google

hi all… I am new to admin on FC. usually on slackware. does rpm/FC have a way I can check all the currently installed rpms have no missing dependencies ? someone went and rpm -e –nodeps a heap of stuff I am new to this role so trying to clean up tia

package-cleanup in yum-utils.

thanks heaps

ivazquez, so something like find /mnt -name *.jpg | cpio -ov | ssh ip.add.y/dir/ect/ory ?

You wouldn’t use the path in the ssh command, but yes, something like that.

I though you coulnt send files through ssh and you needed to use scp

You *can* send a stream over ssh.

find path -depth -print | cpio -oaV | ssh user@host ‘cpio -imVd’ ?

hmmm ivazquez thanks I did not know that Im newbie to linux, 1 year of hnme use now home sorry

does cpio support xattrs/acl?

Why not use rsync, if that’s the case? Hmm..

You might want to consider changing to the correct directory, but yes. Sometimes rsync is overkill.

Aha.

There is. rsync needs to parse the file structures first and then compare them. cpio/tar/et al just spew the data through.

ivazquez, well, the files are scattered throughout a few directories, but all of those are in one directory. I’m trying to come up with a one-liner that will copy all the desired files from a friend’s borked windows box (using a livecd like knoppix or ubuntu) onto my own linux box I could have copied them by hand at this point, but now I’m hell bent on doing it this way

I meant changing the directory on your system.

Oh, my box. Ok

Unless you don’t mind them spewing into the user’s home directory.

I was actually thinking of making an xpfool user account.

Oh. -p

craigbass1976, you could zip those on winbox as well…

Is Fedora developed to replace a users desktop, or to simply show how newer technologies can be used in a lunix distribution (i.e. for Ubuntu developers to integrate newer technologies into a longer release)?

Windows is stuck in perpetual reboot in ALL modes. No love there; this is a copy and wipe job

fedora has nothing to do with ubuntu or vice versa

I’d rather throw fedora on it, but you know…

craigbass1976, what’s your goal, anyway?

Zart, to get all the .doc and .jpg files in Documents and Settings’ various user folders onto a linux box in one command

I know this. But I’m taking a look at ubuntu now for the first time, and seeing why more of my friends have moved to ubuntu than to Fedora. It appears as though it appeals to the typical everyday user more than Fedora does

craigbass1976, if i were you, i’d setup samba and made a folder redirection for My documents

bah

(provided network is stable and fast enough)

Ubuntu is nice… until you hit one of its limits. That’s when people move to Fedora.

Mine here is just a few data ports and a switch in the cellar

who cares what you’re friends have done? make up your own mind. don’t let people control your choices

What are the limits?

Damfino. But that’s apparently why we get Ubuntu converts. Ask them

totally tortured ricky

I’ve been on Fedora for 3 years and don’t plan on changing. I am looking more towards the distrobution of Fedora. I honestly don’t think we appeal as user-friendly as we should, unless the goal of Fedora is secretly to be for the more computer-savvy

Heh.

i stick with fedora because it’s logical and the most reasonable choice.

I hate to sound elitist, but there’s something to be said about not being appealing to the riff-raff.

Once I start experimenting with SELinux later on, I’ll hopefully have more reasons

i personally don’t care about “image” or appealing to users .. .

Exactly what I was thinking

what do you mean?

Supposedly every day in #ubuntu is n00b day.

most users are idiots.

honestly, does linux want you to have to think a bit? or make it as easy for everyone as possible

ya, like no silly blog postings ZOMG skype readz passwordz

To put it nicely, attracting certain groups of people can hurt a community. Hehe, then there’s the direct way of saying if

linux, i feel, helps you control your computer and OS, not vice versa

Right, I agree with that, and I feel and receive feedback that Fedora doesn’t appeal to the typical computer-retard

I’ll wait ’til someone comes up with statistics of desktop users and/or concrete usability suggetions… can’t do much without them

“most users are idiots” - they dont care. and actually they shouldnt. that’s why user-centric distros (and Win) have their userbase

i’m with fedora because of mindset, logical layout, ease of use, flexibility…

fedora gets tinkered with by me, i casually use ubuntu

most users are indeed idiots.. nothing to do with linux or computers .. it’s just that most people are completely brain-dead

i think society has molded to make people idiots

opsec, as i said, they dont care about computer stuff

But yeah.. I think you can get a pretty good idea of what you’re in for by looking at some of the people on IRC, in forums/other channels of support.

go out into your city and “dip in” to the moron pool

there is an affinity to being idiot in other areas as well

Most people don’t care about *anything* that requires thought.

it carries over you can really get a good sense of peoples general thought processes or lack thereof in an irc channel

you get a much better idea when you work in a life/death environment people that use thier brains tend to live…

That is, if you can read the channel scrolling by, if you know what I mean.

life/death environment? do they use ubuntu there?

*ahem*#ubuntu*ahem*

i was making a generalization

haha

i’m not much of an IT person anymore i’m a lineman i build powerlines/substations etc

brains and thought have nothing to do with IT or any other topic .. it’s a mindset, a lifestyle .. a method of attacking problems and finding solutions most people lack critical thinking skills, and really don’t want any

and its easier to see the quality of a person on the work they do in a hostile environment rather than base everything on some ignorant question they might ask in a chat room

depends on how many dumb questions they ask

Some people don’t get trusted with critical environments. For a reason.

i was taught that no question is a dumb question but yeah there is an idiot threshold

all in all fedora isn’t for the very beginner linux user, doesn’t aim to be but a beginner can come in and use it effectively

we each have our own inherent abilities

if he’s willing to read, learn, and try

she

they

any person with the correct mindset can do anything they want

i think fedora is very forgiving to beginners

It.

it’s all how you talk to yourself

I think Fedora can be good for a beginner- it helps if they think, though.

i started on it

i turned my computer illiterate girlfriend loose with fc6 ( after i set it up for her) and she has yet to break it

as did I

it was fun it’s what hooked me

same

i started on redhat 5.2…talk about misery

Hehe.

and the fact I was getting sick of M$FT

if you’re set on learning fedora and you refuse to let anything or anyone stop you, you’ll learn it.. same is also true of anything else in life.

the first real wow factor for me was the DNA wall

slackware didnt work on my pc back then

dna wall?

then we went straight to command line and worked there the DNA wallpaper from FC6

I almost did install Ubuntu as my main desktop distro once, since the Fedora CD didn’t work. I ended up doing a netinstall off of an older CD that did, though

so what attracted you to fedora was the wallpaper?

i have yet to try ubuntu, but from what i hear, its probably not for me

smart statement.

hahahaha

It would take… “a lot” to convince me to try Ubuntu.

I’m installing a VMWare of Ubuntu now

^a lot of money

#1 i don’t like brown .. i flush it down

I am wanting to analyze the 2

i just said it was the first wow factor the overall experience i had in the class i was taking convinced me

i never got along w/ the debian way of doing things

same. Apt really was a pain

so i use fedora and gentoo yea hehe but i guess they say the same about yum/rpm to each their own

Honestly, I’m a fan of APT/Debian’s package management (from the user side, *not* the packaging side).

i do almost all my installs/updates on CLI now

Granted, I don’t think we can necessarily bash another linux distro since all intensive purposes are the same, an open source distribution

package management is what attracted me to gentoo actually…portage is neat

Which is why I bash communities, not distros- muahaha

ultimate_frisbe1, thats actually not true.

but i like yum also ( much less time consuming)

I tried gentoo, and honestly, I ended up preferring FreeBSD ports to portage.

a lot of linux distros are soley for the purpose of profit driven results especially the major ones

???

Argh. *Intents and purposes*.

lol

freeBSD is neat too

ok… suse…. ubuntu…. redhat workstation… solaris

agblablabla…I didn’t major in English Yea i see your point

oh I forgot… mandriva etc etc etc

I just install fedora 7 and my mouse is transparent

you can see right thru it eh yotux ?

I don’t see it on the screen

profit isnt a bad thing, just ask ayn rand

or bill gates

I have enable ctrl to locate my mouse

sorry, i just got done reading atlast shrugged for the second time

I only find my mouse when it rolls over icons and menu list

atlas* which is pretty much the capitolist manifesto

doublethink, in a world where economic trade is a requirement for survival its a good idea to be successful yet history has shown countless times that unbridled profit taking is not only destructive but just plain wicked there must exist a balance and moral value is usually the yardstick today we have no moral value. only differing groups of repression and fear when a society reaches this level it falls. period opsec. I seriously doubt you would survive

i don’t

I know

And when you have “moral value,” you have someone or a group of people telling others what that moral value _is_. This puts one group in power of the rest and is also highly dangerous to our society as a whole.

how about them fedora updates eh?

the danger is in people not questioning .. and being the cattle they are

codergeek42, well when a so called leader sets the moral code you have the beginnings of a repressive regime

or a religion

moral code is usually decided by a generation or two of severe hardship and strife

EXACTLY!

a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing

so where do we eat? (c)

the leaders and groups are not to blame .. they will always be created if allowed to prosper.. the blame goes squarely on john and jane doe’s doorstep

in a kitchen

A little yes; but a lot of knowledge is one of the most powerful weapons a person can have - both for defense and offense.

the average person is to blame for the state of the world .. since they demand that it exists this way

see “V for Vendetta” (again if you have not)

its not that they demand it, its just that they’re pacified with so many distractions and are thus complacent

much of this is expounded upon therein

no, they demand it.

welp….night guys (EST time)

gnight

so, how about that Omen movie…original version

human cattle are to be herded into controlled areas and managed .. just like they demand.

so what do you guyz sit around smokin dope thinkin yer philosphers and socio-psycologists?

the term we use is “road scholars”

no, you’re the only correct one. forgive us all.

nah, i have to deal with being middle of the road i share views with both sides

but no, i dont smoke dope ( which is probably why i’m such a cynic)

cynicism is fun

but yeah, this isnt the place for political/philosophical discussion sorry

cynic? blaming religion and government for the collapse of moral value… I really cant believe Im saying this but opsec is the closest to the truth and its my fault doublethink

i blame humans and misinterpretation for religion

lol

for government, it’s really human fault as well, as in the US, they’re elected in

there are two schools of thought basically tw2113 one says the universe is static and perpetual and the other that it started with a sudden episode referred to as the big bang and it is constantly expanding and will one day collapse… thus it was created

really, it’s all humanity to blame

i dunno, morality is relative to upbringing, and in the good ole us of a, government only goes as far as those we entrust ( for short durations) with power

there is a third school of thought… “who gives a shit?”

well all of humanity will pay the price true… but its the individual responsible for the problem

i kind of like to think that we’re all part of god’s petrie dish he set up a self sustaining society that way he can be lazy and eat grapes or something if i was in a position like that, that’s how i’d do things…who wants something you constantly maintain? ironically, i could turn this into a “god’s world is linux”

Self-sustaining? We border constantly on self-destroying!

lol Zart possibly the longest survivors

i said i kind of like thinking like that, i have no proof i said i kind of like thinking like that, i have no proof

hay gusys whats happen here?

That’s the whole idea of religious faith: we believe without any hard and cold evidence.

all this from the economic necessity of developing linux distros for profit?!?

(if you’re religious, that is.)

very true i really have no reason not to at least religion has something for you after you die

not all religions

*reads on ati/amd radeon driver* wonder, how they’ll grok macrovision stuff

there’s a special ati driver for the amd processor?

ati was bought by amd, duh

amd owns ati

ok, back to linux anyone have a fedora problem that i can try to solve but probably fail?

lol

tw2113, i do

thats huge that they’re opening everything up

hit me

ivazquez, well, I couldn’t figure out a one-liner to find | tar | scp (ssh) the files, and I had to go into a few directories (because find’s output was too long a filename for tar) but it did work much faster than grabbing ALL of the files manually

i’m curious to see how nvidia will take it

Receiving SMB: Server stopped responding” messages in logs sometimes samba freezes completely

if ati drivers are opened up for linux etc nvidia will have to start making quality cards

ack, i fail

well quality chipsets rather zart do you have any wireshark logs to go with that/ ?

i’m cuious to see how much ati will benefit from having oss developers working on their drivers and what that will mean in terms of actual performance compared to the canned binaries nvidia will no doubt still be cranking out

winbind connects to smbd on the same box…

I did not read it as ATI are opening it all up. They are doing genuine open devel from some point onwards, that is all.

so i dont think it’s network

why on earth does setarch i386 rpmbuild -bb SPECS/apr.spec still build a x86 RPM ?

ati cant open macrovision stuff, i bet

and so does using –target=i386

so hardware-accelerated dvd playback might be off limits

i must have misunderstood, i thought they were opening their cardspecs and the source to their newer drivers

kaos01, use –target= ?

this might be why many use mock

mock ?

and even with one command, iirc

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/Mock

Zart, i tried –target= as well , with no luck

kaos01, –target=x86_64

hm

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/BuildingPackagesGuide

Ok I am out of here for the night. Thank you all so much for your help.

kaos01, Hold on. You are on i686 right?

mutk, im on a x86 x86_64

lol

i get my 64bit processor wednesday

kaos01, So you want to build a x86_64 right?

no a i386

use mock

kaos01, Errm. So what the heck is it actually building then

rpmbuild -bb –target=i386-redhat-linux-gnu some.spec

that may still not pure-32bit, since `uname` would still say x86_64 etc.

who cares about uname?

Invoke setarch with it if you want; but mock makes a full chroot nice and simply. Some improper build scripts.

hmm not cross-compiling friendly then

mock kicks @$$

what the heck…a 22lb computer case?

i once played with crosscompiling… neat stuff

couldn’t have said it better myself :]

was able to cross compile “hello world” on linux to djgpp, windows, solaris was going to try hpux11 as well

Nice.

I fixed so many bad spec files using mock it is not even funny

my guess is gcc isnt being passed the right flags

check spec and it’s configure invocation

what does the ‘-c’ do when using ’su’ command ?

–command

man su

like I have ’su oracle -c /…/… ‘

check the man pages

invokes shell, and passes argument of -c to it

yes, what is argument c?

configure uses CC=gcc CXX=g++

use mock

?

about idiots…

yes, I still don’t get what the -c does1? what does -c do ???

uh, i could write a book.

-c, –command SHELL Specify a command that will be invoked by the shell using its -c.

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