I actually really care about nfs exporting the DVD mount point, filesystem is udf.

i dunno about that. check google see if there’s a hack. darsie you could copy the dvd to your hd as an .iso and export that would probly be best. hd=hard drive, bbl

cu

I’m running lenny on x86_64; I just installed mozilla-mplayer and then restarted iceweasel so that I could use the plugin, but when I got to a site that streams divx video (i.e. stage6.com) iceweasel tells me that I’m missing a plugin. How would I go about getting iceweasel to recognise the mplayer plugin that is already installed?

restarting firefox should have been enough could look at the about:plugins page in the browser

CutMeOwnThroat, okay, I’ll give that a look.

hi all

if you have nautilus-util or something similar installed i think you can right click the dvd in nautilus and “create iso” or something, check synaptic. KDE i’m sure theres same option or whatever windowmanager you’re using.

where’s wx-config on debian lenny? i installed wx-common, but in only gave me the man page

configured mutella for remote access but web page wont come up any suggestions

apt-file doesn’t find wx-config, but it finds wx-config’s man page

Thanks, but I do not want to copy the DVD to hd.

CutMeOwnThroat, yeah. The plugin appears to be there, and active, but it has no option for *.divx … I’m checking out the documention on how to remedy that *documentation

that’d probly be your best bet as the lag due to nfs transport and dvd read/write whatever might be too unbearable. let me know your results cuz is nice idea, economy wise

CrippsFX, preferences-applications, I think CrippsFX, btw, you could also have a look at mozplugger if you like to have all kinds of things running inside the browser

and if its private sensitive data you can tunnel your transport through ssh or something, just another option bye 4 real this time

CutMeOwnThroat, yeah, there is no applications tab for edit-preferences :/ … I will, however, take a look at mozplugger, thanks.

CrippsFX, ah, everything has been renamed again… it’s in preferences-content, there is “Filetypes” Configure how Iceweasel handles certain types of files CrippsFX, oh, but that seems to be only for external applications !plugin

CutMeOwnThroat, yeah, I’ve been through the “filetypes” management menu, but there’s no way to “add a new action” or “add a new filetype association”

So, I’m looking for glut, and I see two available packages freeglut3 and glutg3, what is the difference between the two, and how would I find out this difference on my own?

!plugins ah, there !mozilla plugins

extra, extra, read all about it, mozilla plugins is Help for installing plug-ins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org

!ubuntusmite Is dpkg dead? Well crap

works for me

!yo

yao!

come mai sono bannato in #debian-it ?

i want to compile a source package, but i want to use make -j 3…can i just type that, and then use dpkg-buildpackage? or does buildpackage re-make it?

hello can someone tell me how to install the nvidia legacy drivers pl ? i need help

ci sei? come mai mi hanno bannato in #debian-it ???

I don’t know, but, I bet that buildpackage has a feature that will let you append something to a command line..??

ok

ice63:

yes

dpkg tell ice63 about nv

Sebboh, i can’t find anything about it, but i will look harder

dpkg tell ice63 about nvidia

/msg dpkg nmg

speaking of dpkg.. how do I get her to tell me which package provides /usr/bin/gnome-config ?

hmm

does MAKEFLAGS=-j3 work?

uno ha bannato tutta telecom

\amethyst, let me try that

\amethyst: ahh.. Good idea. Just becareful of fakeroot. A lot of build instructions recommend the use of fakeroot. I dunno how that might effect the environment. (completely hide it, I suppose.) \amethyst: what’s that thing that you do with dpkg to show what package provides some file?

dpkg -L package

ii package 1.6-3 simonrvn’s private porn collection

man dpkg

do you mean the program or the bot?

no the bot. yes.

!help

dpkg -L some file only works with installed packages.

/msg dpkg find foo

!find /bin/ls

No packages found matching some file only works with installed packages.

Find! ahh. thx

\amethyst, i dont think that worked

Debian Search of ‘/bin/ls’ (10 of 38): (/usr/bin/lshal) in admin/hal ;; (/usr/bin/lsof) in utils/lsof ;; (/usr/bin/lswm) in utils/lswm ;; (/usr/bin/lshw) in utils/lshw ;; (/usr/bin/lsdvd) in utils/lsdvd ;; (/usr/bin/lsw) in x11/dwm-tools ;; (/usr/bin/lsmbox) in mail/lsmbox ;; (/usr/bin/lspgpot) in utils/gnupg ;; (/usr/bin/lsscsi) in admin/lsscsi ;; (/usr/bin/lsongs) in sound/lsongs.

[dpkg] Debian Package/File/Desc Search of ‘/usr/bin/gnome-config’ returned no results. .. d’oh. where do I get gnome-config from?

why do you need it? it’s obsolete

it’s in libgnome-dev… are you building a gnome 1 program?

Yes, I am.

a non-debian-packaged one?

azeem, nosy, huh? \amethyst: exactly.

you’re going to need -dev packages for all the libs it uses

well, I wasn’t sure you were aware that this is cruft from the 90s

I do my best to avoid non-packaged applications, hell, I even avoid non-signed deb packages. But this is for GNU R… A math/statistics program. It looks like the old gui has fallen out of fasion.. But, I’ll see if it still works at all. shrug … you got me, I didn’t realize it was that old. Ok.

I see

\amethyst: yes, the -dev packages are what I’ve been installing.

is the gui part of the R distribution?

Yes, it’s part of R, but, the debian package for gnomeGUI is empty. I can still install the package directly from the CRAN, though.

you know that R has been packaged for debian?

I have apt-got it recently, yes. However, the gnomeGUI package is no longer carried by debian.

I didn’t think that any of R was actually in the main debian archive yet…. but much of cran has been packaged. Don’t use it myself, but there has been much discussion on debian-science of late.

? how would cran stuff be packaged if R wasn’t there? r-base

when do I need KBUILD_MODULES

the debian changelog says that the gnome GUI was unbundled upstream… or is this a separate package now?

it’s been there since 2006

\amethyst, azeem: that’s recent

went into unstable 10 Apr 2005

iirc, R had a really dodgy licence that kept it out for a long time unofficial debs have been around since 1997 though

err, earlier than that

\amethyst: I have no idea why/how/when the gnomeGUI left debian.. Nor do I know if they plan to keep it in CRAN.. But, I can say that it is in CRAN today, and I’ll let you know how the build process goes!

probably… it’s not in the unofficial deb repo for R then?

how can i have debootstrap install a kernel in /boot ?

Since I found R in the official repo, I never looked there,.

you can tell it to install extra packages via a command-line switch

can i put the kernel package name in a file somewhere ? ah i see

you’re building just the gnome GUI, not all of R, right?

there’s too much in CRAN to package it all so cran, like cpan, is never all going to go into main. So there are unofficial repos around that have some/lots of it packaged. Might be worth a look. \amethyst, azeem: do you guys actually use R at all? I’ve only ever heard about it through debian-science.

\amethyst: right, I think. I got R out of official debian repos.. And then, I issued a single command from within R that caused it to ask me which mirror to use, download some source, and attempt to build it.

no

I don’t, but I have users who do

i found this program, apt-build, it appears to be able to do -j 3 for me

everytime i build a kernel and leave the menuconfig option to * or m off in the config file it says “is not set” shouldnt it be set to “n”

I am the same as \amethyst, kinda. I am not a scientist, but I know one.

Did you read https://svn.r-project.org/R-packages/trunk/gnomeGUI/README ?

Oh well… I was hoping I’d found a real live R user that I could talk to….

\amethyst: probably not.. one sec.

it lists the packages you need installed (though the package names will be somewhat different in debian)

im trying to get ndiswrapper working, and i got it all set up but now theres an eth0:avah in ifconfig, with a really odd ip address (maybe one of my neighbors ap’s) but nothing in iwconfig

what came first the compiler or the kernel

In Linux?

are you still making your life difficult?

yes ands yes

gcc was around before Linux existed

are you asking from a historian POV?

random thought of info ok how about what came first…unix or the compiler

how about you ask elsewhere?

hello

or read the vast amount of Unix history on the net

\amethyst: yes, I had read that. Yeah, unfortunately, that list is REALLY wrong.

anyone?

azeem how about i add you to ignore

that’s ok

i know

http://kerneltrap.org/node/14002

Hey folks! I’ve got a question I’m not completely sure about. Right now I’m hosting XP on my desktop computer, but quite bored with it so thought I’d try out debian 4.0 as a change. However, I now run 1 partition containing Windows and 1 containing my documents and such (NTFS both). Are there any chance of keeping the later one with all the fun stuff, even though it’s a NTFS-formatted partition?

hm, ignoring OPs isnt that clever…

i have fedora as xen-dom0, and want to install debian as xen-domU, can someone point me to docs about how to do that ?

themill thnx…checking that out

you want to wipe the first one? then it’s no issue at all

http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/hist.html

otherwise, the Debian installer can resize one of them or both to make space, but that’s without warranty

the very first Unix, which would be barely recognizable today, was written in assembler

the windows partition I can live without, don’t want to dualboot, but I’ve got all my documents on the second one, that’s why it would be nice to keep, so i won’t have to make a full backup on those ~200gb

how big is that Windows partition? note that it’s awkward to use an ntfs partition for every-day use on GNU/Linux

25gb, though I’m not exactly sure if’s logical or primary, if that got anything to do with it I second you on that. Perhaps should make a clean install and mount the biggest one as /home with ext3?

well, 25gb is very much enough for GNU/Linux depends on how much data you plan to get/use yourself

when loading ndiswrapper, what comes first, depmod or modprobe?

you could backup the most critical stuff, and then resize the ntfs data partition, if there is lot of free space on it

true, I was thinking of that option as well. Perhaps should check out how much I need to save and if it’s not too much - blowing it clean ain’t that bad

azeem, \amethyst, themill_: I got gnomeGUI for R working, but, sigh I see why they are abandoning it.

did somebody say train wreck?

it can make nice plots with labeled datapoints! But when you pull another window over that one the image is erased.. and it doesn’t redraw if you minimize/restore.. I remember when I coded a window like this. ..In highschool… It was my first GUI..

ouch. that’s horrible. even for gtk1

hey azeem, thanks for giving me some point of views

themill_ yeah it’s obvious that any future gui should just be new development. ..But this gui is good to keep around to provide a list of requirements.

and an example of how-not-to…

well.. yes and no. Like I said, the first gui I made suffered from exactly the same problem.. It’s a simple matter of catching an event and firing a redraw.. Something that all modern toolkits handle for you.

Anyone here familiar with SELinux?

How familiar?

I know almost nothing about it, and I need help clearing up some audit messages before I can enable enforcement.

I’ve used it, but I haven’t built my own. Can’t help you there.

Ok. Thanks anyway.

yes. mostly. It’s actually a fairly common problem with plotting routines because of the way they are constructed as a canvas draw not a set of lines. A little more work is usually needed to implement a backbuffer.

Good luck! (is there an selinux specific IRC channel?)

hello, i have a ethernet jack that ive hooked up to a switch… ive plugged one laptop (this one) into it and I know my ip…. the other computer is a desktop and i have no monitor for it but it is hooked up to the internet as well… how do i figure out the ip of it…. I was expecting the desktop (debian linux os) to join up on my hamachi network, but it hasnt…. so im confused how to find the ip

bb

in my c file, and the Makefile in the kernel/helloworld folder has obj-y = helloword.o, do I just do helloworld: … gcc helloworld.c

?

#debian isn’t really the place for this question.

do you know that the headless debian machine has grabbed an IP address from your dhcp server successfully?

Sebboh, Im not even sure of that im assuming it should have seeing that my laptop had no trouble

if it did not… Well, you won’t be able to contact it by the network.

can the switch tell you who it has given leases to?

And if other PC’s are in the same range–like a college dorm–you might have trouble finding it by some sort of scan.

Sebboh thats what im trying right now

Switches do not lease, but, yeah, themill is onto something. If the dhcp server can tell you who it leased to, that might help.

ive scanned every computer on the net, now im ssh’ing into each

that’s a terrible idea. But anyway. Better idea: log into the debian box blind.

(I was assuming it was a home router thingy that does dhcp and was just being called a switch here….)

do you know the key sequences?

Sebboh, i think so, its on login prompt right now, and will load up a bash shell after log in what should i type that would send my ip to an email i have a keyboard lying around thankfully

it would be easier to get it to do something that causes the IP to be logged somewhere.

just ping your laptop and run tcpdump on the laptop

you might not have a configured MTA to send an email

gah.. Sebboh im not sure what you mean by that oh right Sebboh good idea

He’s easy.

the laptop has winxp actually what should i be doing in winxp (laptop)

uh.. wireshark is kinda overkill for this…

ethereal? should i run ethereal

that is the old name for wireshark, yes.

ah well ill give it a shot

goodnight people

wget http://www.some-server-that-logs-your-ip.com ..Then view that server’s log with your laptop.

*nod* (that’s what I was thinking might work)

Sebboh i dont have a server of my own… but i can log into a free shell account i have, and run the command ‘last’ or who

sure… slightly harder than the ping. Just think, if you had debian on your laptop, you’d have the ip address host already. apt-get install tcpdump; tcpdump proto=ICMP or whatever… dude irc is a blackhole, I have to close this and get some work done. good luck all.

i dont think my keybaord is working…. either that or the dhcp hasnt worked on my debian machine yet should i restart?

hi, im having the following error in console after running dpkg-reconfigure -a. error in http://paste.lisp.org/display/47184. any help welcome

helloe I’m new to debian and I’ve got this messages http://tinyurl.com/q6zv6

hi, is there a way to list all the dpkg that did *not* come with my debian install?

hi, im having the following error in console after running dpkg-reconfigure -a. error in http://paste.lisp.org/display/47184. any help welcome

hi guys.

how do i ping perpetually with a 2 second interval

man ping wtf.

i cant… i dont have a monitor

then you can’t type the ping command. problem eliminated.

im doing this blindly without a monitor so i can figure out the goddamn ip of the headless machine i DO, HOWEVER, have a keyboard

you don’t have a web browser either, I guess

I was trying to put the live boot version of debain onto a usb key and forgot that this was a serial ata machine to a accidently dd the image to the hard drive instead of the key. is there any way to get the data off the drive?

because you didn’t try to google for “ping man page”

rahul wtf are you on about i simply asked about pinging perpetually with a 2 second interval, thats all

Hrrrm! backports.org packages appear to have become referenced in http://packages.debian.org !

so read the man page.

rahul if you read earlier, i dont have a monitor for that computer, and im not on linux host right now forget it

you don’t know any web browsers that work on your current OS?

not sure what you mean

hrm, we have a pre-1990 internet user here maybe you can use gopher… I suspect they had man pages on gopher, too… I think I might have read some on gopher

thanks, anyway

hello. does anybody know what filesystem i should use to mount my ipod (nano)?

hey Decepticon look at your priv msg

sysop2, i dont see anything

daidalus13, vfat, typically

video/divx (and file extension *.divx), but when I try to view videos on http://stage6.divx.com I still get a big white box that says “click here to download plugin” … has anybody else run into this issue, or the issue of mplayerplugin not playing the divx files for iceweasel?

I am using vfat but I have the following error message. ca you help?

any reason you want 2s interval not 1s interval?

you can’t msg. you’re not identified to services.

wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try

themill_, no particular reason, i dont want to hammer my other machine

http://fgouget.free.fr/bing/ping_src-man.shtml

1 packet/s isn’t going to hurt and it will be a lot easier for you to not worry about it.

hi does anyone have any suggestions about my hdd problem? I dd ed a usb image to my hdd by mistake. what can I do. I just need to get some files off.

does too… wow… I’d only noticed the css goodness so far. I hope that doesn’t mean that more people will start blindly using backports for everything thought. *though

any suggestions on this? http://paste.lisp.org/display/47184

Hello, on some foo.c I see #if 0 #enfif what is #if 0 ?

any suggestions about a good debian forum? I posted a problem on www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help but I have no reply at all

try #c

it’s a preprocessor command that will always evaluate to false and leave that block of code out. do you have entries in /dev/pts?

so never use it?

no creating a subdir named 0 didnt work either

Yes. The block of code between #if and #endif will be ignored by the compiler and will not be included in the program. it shouldn’t be a subdir etc, it should have character devices. do you have an entry for devpts in the output of the command mount?

nothing’s there output of the command mount?

what is the idea to use that instead of /* */ ?

The mount command just reads /etc/mtab. It may or may not reflect the actual state of the kernel Better to “ls -a /dev/pts” and see if you get anything but . and ..

/dev/pts is empty. It doesn’t tell us whether the pts file system is mounted though

i cant open konsole, so i cant ls nothing… wich is very frustrating

you’d have to ask the developers that. It’s usually used to switch bits of code in and out easily. The keywords for you to google are “C preprocessor” I presume that no other terminal works (xterm) or even console

none of those installed

if you define a *commented out* piece of code using the preprocessor instead of commetns, then when the preprocessor processes the code, it cuts that section out entirely, and makes for smaller binaries

Combination of empty /dev/pts and inability to open xterm or konsole tells us that the devpts filesystem is not in fact mounted. Almost any action will cause a unix98 pty to be allocated. I’m kind of surprised xterm doesn’t work . I didn’t know it was an obligatory user of unix98 ptys

good night all

Lastly, if you mount devpts twice, that’s ok

shoudlnt that pts thing be working like “on demand”

pipe er.. line

It could, if you configured an automounter. But.. err… why? You WILL need unix98 ptys

yes, thank you. that’s where we were going.

null, that last one was for you.

ahh thanks

i have no idea how to mount them

the preprocessor cuts out comments too. what do you mean

so, to use #if 0 is for small binaries, isn’t it?

comments or preprocessor make for no difference to binary size

themill_, I’d like to see your source for that.

better than /* */

mount -t devpts /dev/pts

null, yes.

run cpp yourself

rather, mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts

bollox

and where should that go?

It’s a command line.

themill_, cpp eh? don’t you mean gcc or g++ ?

but i never needed it before…

no, cpp… the C pre processor

This should be pretty obvious. Comments are stripped before the compiler ever sees the code

yep… that’s what I’m saying

That was supposed to go to you.

pipeline:

We don’t need to cite “sources” to discuss the basic nuts and bolts of C. I can refer you to a beginner’s level textbook, but that seems a touch trite. I’m sure you have the judgement to pick one for yourself.

brb, will try that mount thing

pipeline, I’m having a bad day; thank you for being so *kind* as to insinuate that I’m a beginner when I made an honest mistake. fuck off.

It’s not an honest mistake to be an asshole to people trying to help you. It’s just being an asshole bIt’s not an honest mistake to be an asshole to people trying to help you. It’s just being an asshole /b the sunday that never ended

pipeline, no; It’s seeing something that could be considered insulting and taking it as such. Again: I’ve had a bad day; that makes it very easy for me to see the worst in everything anybody says.

just make your mistakes politely and noone will worry

themill_, duly noted.

!beer CrippsFX sounds like you need one!

themill_, you have no idea how much I need one right now.

!beer CrippsFX at last! a european beer…

it worked this time will i have to do that mount after every reboot?

no, you shouldn’t need to at all.

i have a process that is stuck on disk access, it appears, and i can’t even kill -9 it or ctrl-c it

you mean i shoudlnt need it at all _after_ the first time or never should have?

wondering if anyone had any ideas

what version of xen is in etch ?

should never need to have been run. Should be completely automatic. Linux would really suck if you had to do that yourself have you been monkeying around with what services are run on startup?

you know what? my blank cds from yesterday were probably blank really; i bought new ones today and they didnt work on my software either; so now im burning the new blank ones on a new software; i will try the old ones and they will probably work, so i could’ve installed debian yesterday, but oh well. i know you guys care a lot about this, so i’m telling you in great detail how’s everyone doing? i have a feeling i’m going to have a debian system today

is there any way to install vlc in lenny?

good, thanks for asking

is it chewing cpu (in top)? What’s it’s state in ps axf?

Konky you can use source way too, also, search on apt-get.org

hey earnest, are you a turtle?

i’m not are you?

you bet your sweet ass I am

a ninja one?!

y major monkied with dpkg… i moved my hard drive from my comp to my gf’s and back to my comp

what’s wrong with this channel today?

mondayitis

null is asking us, i suppose

yep

you been handing stuff around again?

hehe; i guess i’m just happy that i will be try to install a debian system trying we don’t need another hero

hi, how to add a new virtual host with the default install ?

this probably isnt good but ps ax stalls out partway through

hmmm… that shouldn’t do it.

thats all i did

also just realized this is on a gentoo machine so i’m probably asking in the wrong place

dpkg-reconf -a at my gfs and here

is it an nfs device?

and gksu is fubar too

yes

i’m trying to install the debian from a bootp/tftp server and i’m getting the msg: image file too large for low memory

i tried umounting it but no help load has gone up since i did the ps no cpu usage though

nfs…. love it when it works, loate it when it doesn’t

but load is at like 4

someone can help me?

we can’t if we don’t know what the problem is….

Any luck?

scroll up ^^, please

yes, just need to make it permanent

load primarily pertains to number of processors contending resources. Maybe they’re competing for something other than CPU time. (e.g. i/o devices?) /etc/fstab should have a devpts line in it.

sure? I’ve not seen one that does. udev handles it

one sec

i’m trying to install the debian from a bootp/tftp server and i’m getting the msg: image file too large for low memory

yeah, missed it the first time. I’m not a bootp person so I can’t help you there….

ok, thx

does /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh exist?

is there any way to get data off my hdd if I accidently dd’ed it was a usb key image? with a usb key image

it does

only the first 2 gig of it was over written, is there any way to access the rest of the drive?

man its so hot my whole body itches cuz its so hot

and is /etc/rcS.d/S04mountdevsubfs.sh a link to it?

yes it is

hmmm… well, that should mount devpts for you.

what is so hot ?

temperature sometimes i eat spicy food and my head itches i dunno why

freak

too much of anything is bad

does “/etc/rcS.d/S04mountdevsubfs.sh start” produce output?

shaddup

go listen to some into eternity

don’t talk to me about music in here

and then buy tickets to the show

you always get me yelled at

heh

#music

nope

YAY I got X working again!

it might be worthwhile grepping through your logs and dmesg to see if you can find some errors about devpts. An error message would make this all much easier.

ill look into it

congrats

might also be worth running that init script with sh -x /etc/rcS.d/S04mountdevsubfs.sh start to see what it actually executes.

Anyone using compiz?

!anyone

polls

man! debian says it detected a hot plugable network device! hm, but it’s not my wireless usb device

!xgl

xgl is, like, the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running. Ask me about “compiz” and “xgl-howto”, or see see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl

!xgl-howto

[xgl-howto] xgl may or may not work on your system. Currently supports nVidia/ATI. http://battlehorse.homelinux.net/w/Wiki.jsp?page=Xgl

hi i want to run linux certification test prep but i get the error no virtual java..any ideas?

MAN The link for xgl-howto is bad

please feel free to write up a better one and put it on the debian wiki or let us know a better one to include in the factoid.

How do I tell Debian to use Xgl instead of Xorg?

Debian doesn’t support Xgl, you’re on your own

Xgl is a replacement for Xorg ?

Xgl is an implementation of X11 using GL primitives. Hilariously, it is in itself an X11+GLX client, and requires Xorg to run

hrm, strange

What you end up with is (X Client)–X11–(Xgl)–GLX–(X server)

what is the command to drop my ip address, and get a new one from dhcp

The only reason to bother, really, is to sidestep crap X11 drivers. You can paint fonts at incredible speed by implementing X11 primitives with OpenGL. killall dhclient; dhclient interface also, ensure that dhcpcd isn’t running.

wasnt it something to do with ipconfig or ifconfig release and renew

that will not release your ip address, of course. Consult the dhclient man page on how to actually issue a dhcp release. if you release your IP, you cannot renew it, you can only request a new one. That’s what a release is to simply renew your IP, kill dhclient and restart it.

alright

you’re thinking ipconfig /release under some other legacy operating system that comes from the US pacific northwest….

or windows haha

yes… dhcp is not built into the linux tcp/ip stack. It’s implemented by userspace applications. not that that’s good or bad. It just is. in-kernel tcp/ip is kind of necessary. in-tcp/ip dhcp is not particularly necessary. (neither is in-kernel httpd… but that didn’t stop microsoft :P)

i will dump my database tomorrow and transfer the dump to a new server. i would like to not go the way of dump to hdd, copy with scp and check md5 sums on both servers. there must be a better way of doing it at the same time…

rsync over ssh will take care of that for you what database is this?

pgsql

yeah, dump and restore is the only practical solution then.

yea its n upgrad too

oh, then you REALLY have no choice. You MUST dump and restore to upgrade across pgsql major versions.

i know

You don’t really need to worry about checksums or anything of that sort. That’s why SSH uses TCP

and ncat -l on the other side

you could porbably dump into a tar | ssh | tar pipeline if you wanted to be fancy (actually, the tar is probably unnecessary for this)

I would just dump to local disk, rsync, restore. It’s not like you’re going to be short on local disk, since you can delete everything except the DB

no but im short on time

yeah, so restarting your dump several times probably isn’t on your todo list.

right

that’s why you dump to local disk then rsync to your destination.. so you can restart in the middle if necessary.

so a local copy is needed…

so if i have my computer set up to forward the internet from wlan0 to eth0 should i be able to access the internet while its forwarding?

hm can i start rsync before the dump is ready?

being able to restart rsync in the middle of a transfer is incredibly valuable. no

ok

sure.

? doesn’t rsync calculate the checksum before it starts the transfer

You’ll just have to run it again to make sure that it got all the data after it finishes. It should be a net win on time. it calculates checksums on a per-block basis, or else it would be useless. I don’t know how rsync feels about transferring files that are being written to sequentially, but that shouldn’t be a problem.

anyone?

ah so i should start rsync regulary and a last time after the dump is done

even if it stops transferring at the point at which the file was when you started nah, just start it at, say, 50%, then again when it’s done.

it is also able to verify that the file has not modified between starting the transfer and finishing, however.

ah ok ill test this rsync thingy

what packed do i need for apache2 and php5 ?

or can someone at least point me to a link

!tell rocketmagnet about search

Hello, with wich program can I open MS Windows HtmlHelp Data?

what is the extension of that?

.chm right?

winhelp in wine can do it I think. (.hlp is ok, .chm too I think now)

yes, .chm

is that those html files that fit inside a single file?

it’s a microsoft file I think

gnochm

however it created an initrd directory in the / directory and i’m getting lib/module errors when I try to boot it. How can i fix this? Do I have to recompile?

is a chm viewer for gnome.

gnochm or kchmviewer at least by the description…

xchm it’s good that?

apt-cache search CHM|grep CHM I don’t know, never used any of them

xchm has kind of a shitty interface, but it’s about the best available. keep in mind, however, that xchm only handles the old chm format. The new chm format has not been documented by microsoft. (And there’s actually no microsoft tool to view them: You have to use visual studio. Ugh.)

you don’t need to use visual studio to view them. how many people have vs installed? The help viewer in win2k and xp can display them.

thanks

!ati one-liner

7.1 . Downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1 for the time being if you are on testing/unstable

uhhh no the new format is ONLY viewable with VS.NET

 

Personal geeklog website hosting

 

!fglrx one-liner

/etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Contrib and non-free sources needed. ask me about non-free sources

xchm can view all chm files that are viewable in the windows help viewer it can NOT handle the new format.. neither can the one that comes with windows. Microsoft is kind of confused about what to do about a next generation help format, and they decided the one they’re using now is not what they want, after all. So it’s very half-baked

half baked… sounds unlikely

unfortunately, the entire MSDN library is in the in-between half-baked format. So the most useful chm-format material is useless

is this new chm format only distributed with vs/msdn stuff though? or are vista’s own help files in this format? ok! well past bed time over this side of the pond…. damned irc sucks the time away all too fast. night all!

isn’t there an app to that will build me a sources.list file?

rsync -a -e ssh user@old_host:/path/to/dump /path/to/dump_copy this is it?

7.1?

!fglrx

7.1 . Downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1 for the time being if you are on testing/unstable

Yep

gn8 all

How would I downgrade xorg-server-core?

downgrading is generally never supported… however some packages are sufficiently simple (that is, both the version installed and the version to replace it) that the downgrade will work

single package by pinning, or reinstall xserver-xorg

!downgrade xorg !xorg

to reconfigure.

!fglrx

7.1 . Downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1 for the time being if you are on testing/unstable

hmmmm

!downgrade xorg !xorg-server-core grrrr !fglrx

7.1 . Downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1 for the time being if you are on testing/unstable

!downgrade

methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i olderversion.deb.

so did you catch what I just said?

has anyone else experienced long delays with debian server 35.9.37.225 (which is one of four hosts at http.us.debian.org)?

geo-rge, No I didn’t

downgrading is generally never supported… however some packages are sufficiently simple (that is, both the version installed and the version to replace it) that the downgrade will work

I’m phlux. phl0x is going to ping out oh

If init was spawning X too fast, and disabled it for 5 minutes… and then I fixed my xorg.onf, is there any way to get it to retry now without waiting 5 minutes?

I get a fatal error when booting saying that /lib/modules/vers#/modules.dep could not be found, and the file does exist. what can be causing this?

I’d say in that case you’re not using debian or you’ve arranged some manner of starting x which is not the arrangement made by the package

its knoppmyth.. which is debian based…. but yeah.. it might have muched with it.

anyway, despite having four ip numbers to choose from, aptitude always resolves http.us.debian.org as 35.9.37. or rather i suspect it is with the libc6 resolver. the nameserver returns the ips in varying order for round robin action, but libc6 undoes this by sorting the ip numbers. how do i get libc6 to *not* sort the ip numbers.

fun fact, we don’t do “based on” around here

Hi, if my workstation is a AMD/Sempron, which is the best ‘linux-image*’ kernel to run? K7, or …?

i like “compiler your own”

hello folks i love to collect chats from #debian but hell… 250MB of debian log is too much :s

what is the exact pathname it’s complaining about?

i686

whatever

that’s like lots of crap being said and done lol

really, even for an AMD then?

which amd?

geo-rge: /lib/modules/version/ … it’s saying that modules.dep could not be found and it is there

still a 686

geo-rge: sempron

nono, -exact-

OK, tx!

there’s no 32 bit k8 kernel, and sempron doesn’t do 64 bit.

geo-rge: cat /proc/cpu ?

the catch is that some semprons are actually k7s… but that’s ok, the 686 kernel will still work fine

geo-rge: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3100+

geo-rge: I even took the ones from my kernel that works and placed it there

OK, sounds good geo-rge: er, cat /proc/cpuinfo ?

no, see, if you don’t give the exact path it’s complaining about from the complaint message, I can’t get started (no abstracting variables

hello good evening…

geo-rge: the complaint is /lib/modules/2.6.181/modules.dep, my other version is 2.6.18-5-686

ok, 181 at end of vers?

has anyone an ati graphic card working in debian ?

ask a question, not a poll.

/lib/modules/2.6.181 (is this right?? and /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686

geo-rge yea i had a 1 for the extraversion in the Makefile for the kernel image. yes, i have both 2.6.181 and 2.6.18-5-686

well i want to buy a new graphic card ati radeon x1550 but i dont know how good its the support for debian…

ok, see if the dep file exists in both… btw, your uname -r is?

it is in both of them. uname -r 2.6.18-5-686

how many people here think polls are god’s gift to women due to the total orgasm they produce if you have ever felt like having one?

geo-rge: right now i have the modules.dep from 2.6.18-5-686 in 2.6.181 a copy rather

so, both places?

yup

hmm it was found useful to run depmod -a early enough in each boot process to remake this file that is, remake it before something tried to use it

how do i do this?

might you have reason to believe this isn’t happening already?

there was also the issue of the initrd the kernel i built created an empty directory in the / directory. and i changed it to a sym link to the old one

(well, we do, because seems it doesn’t get made… but the question is why, and was there attempts made during boot, and if so what happened to prevent the file from getting made)

pretty poor, but not nonexistent.

what name was that dir?

initrd

you’ll need fglrx, and the versions of fglrx available for etch may not be new enough. not to mention, fglrx is just a massive pain in the ass in general.

/initrd is some sort of symlink yes?

im using sid…

at first right after the new build it was just a directory, i change it to a symlink to /boot/oldimage

don’t mind me too much… right now I’m just collecting and organizing information

Well, if you want to live with fglrx, no worries then

you mean /initrd.img ? if you actually mean /initrd that could be significant

why its that (a pain in the ass) have you try it already ? its difficult to configure ?

yes, it was /initrd and i changed it to initrd.img symlink geo-rge: was it suppose to be /initrd.img ?

it’s a pain in the ass to keep it up to date; it doesn’t do everything the nvidia drivers do; you’ll need a shell script to alter monitor settings on the fly. my work laptop has an x1300. I do not enjoy fglrx

ok, that could be the problem here’s what I suggest: rename that symlink to initrd.img then make empty dir initrd try the boot reason: /initrd is a mount point

ahh

for (what?) the initrd

ok, so its better for me to buy a nvidia card…

geo-rge:no the reason? i didn’t know that so i just changed it i’ll try rebooting

it’s a pretty mixed bag, yes the choices are not so nice as I would like. it especially hurts that linux games tend to assume you’re using nvidia

yay for mirrors that don’t sync …

you mount the mirror over the sync, then you see the toilet in the mirror

yeah, you’re right maybe because its soo comercial …

howzit?

geo-rge: here’s something that might be of interest. first it give a warning that /lib/modules/2.6.181 could not be found… then it says that /lib/modules/2.6.181/modules.dep.temp could not be created, so i guess it all stems from there

I reverted to the radeon driver in this Thinkpad T41, fglrx worked ok in 3D (as much as one could expect) but in plain 2D everything was *very* slow, switching windows would spike the CPU and mem usage. Must look deeper into it, radeon’s 3D is somewhat limited.

so it didn’t boot correctly?

that’s correct, the boot just fails when it reaches that point

are you using lilo, grub or something else?\

grub

ok, when you boot do you see both kernels?

yes

hmm I don’t think my sound card is working

ok, let’s see… howbout we… back up /boot/grub/menu.lst, and then run update-grub not sure that’s the right name, could be grub-update

another thing should probably mention is that at first the new kernel did not have “initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.181″ in grub, i added that line

did you do make-kpkg … –initrd … ?

yea oh no

see ya EOF

i didn’t do … –initrd

How would I mount an external drive located at 192.168.1.100\music?

could you try that?

mount_ntfs..

geo-rge: i’ll try it

-maybe- you could try 2.6.22* too

apt-get upgrade results in: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man5/limits.conf.5.gz’, which is also in package passwd

i want to run a mail server, which dpkg-configure exim4-config option should i choose?

from debianutils or libpam-modules

internet site

mail is sent and received directly using SMTP”?

erm .. wikichuck internet site

what?

ok thanks

!tell m1ke_l about overwrite

you want to ruin a mail server??!

?

yaa!! thanks man

btw, do you want exim or postfix or which one?

exim4

hello, iam gonna by me to SATA Drives with an SATA controller for my etch server. is DeLock supported by debian / linux ( guess its more a kernel quesiton )

any idea how to mount ntfs?

ok, is that mail server installed?

should i listen on 0.0.0.0?

yes

geo-rge: well yeah, it comes with debian lol

drive really doesn’t matter it’s the sata controller

try dpkg-reconfigure exim4

wtf at least tell him the right package

geo-rge: no, it’cs dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, and i’m over it, thanks

and he’s already doing it

s/over/on/

which package is the right one? he said he has exim4

so what? !drec !drec geo-rge

geo-rge: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config # run it as root

ohh I dint no dat

IIRC .. exim4 is a metapackage

i know, iam asking about the SATA controllin. Drives are clear, i take the MAxline 7L250S0, but what about the SATA controller from DeLock

!depends exim4

depends on debconf (= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, debconf (= 1.4.69) | cdebconf (= 0.39), exim4-base (= 4.67), exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy | exim4-daemon-custom

you need the chipset !info exim4 etch

(metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation), section mail, is standard. Version: 4.63-17 (etch), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 48 kB

see .. small!

so everything should work now if my mx servers are all tickety boo?

i have an ext3 partition here, mounted specifically with options “exec” - still mount displays (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev).. what is causing this?

what’s a ticketyboo?

locking at the page of delock, there support suse..so its supported in linux kernels…should be ok then

dunno about “everything” .. but it should send/receive

any idea how to mount ntfs?

http://www.delock.de/produkte/gruppen/pci-express/PCI_Express_Controller_Karte_2x_SATA_1x_IDE_89143.html?setLanguage=EN

good enough for me

!ntfs

… the latter is obsoletish.

geo-rge: the opposite of you it’s remote

so? I’ve mounted it on other distributions

!depends exim4 etch

It’s shared by a Windows box

depends on debconf (= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, exim4-base (= 4.63), exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy | exim4-daemon-custom

hmm, same thing

I just need to mount it as /home/phlux/Music

works with suse

well let’s hope this works

i mean iam not gonna use sweet suse at all, but this would be its ok with linux kernels..what should mean it should work under my debian box i guess, or ?

it’s not shared as ntfs .. it’s shared as cifs/samba

i should probably wait for a while to let dns do it’s thing

dunno .. that web page is vague

what other tool is there for making software raids other than mdadm ?

abrotman, I used to mount it via mount_ntfs…

I used something else to build my raid… even put the commands into a text file… but of course the one that had that file is the system that went down

geo-rge: what’s the best way to remove my build before i rebuild it again?

you’re using make-kpkg?

yea

it should clean itself before building but (1) copy the .config somewhere so you have it

i know, iam off topic, but would you spent 50¬ instead of 2 to get a SATA II controller instead of SATA I, when you have 2x SATA II ( 16 MB ) caches and the server is low-profile, home using, single user only ?

k

(2) run make mrproper

depends on the drives .. but pretty likely

(3) copy the config back and then do the build

there’s an app that periodically adds and removes rules from iptables. is there a way to configure iptables to log these modifications to its chains?

maxtor Maxline III

if they’re sataII .. i’d get a sataII controller

so how would I mount a samba drive, then?

smbmount

ok thank you

abrotman, I don’t have smbmount

!installit

*** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you’ve been told to use isn’t there, install it. Also ask me about search. if someone suggests an application to you, it’s highly likely that it’s available via apt-get

running fdisk -l says md0 doesn’t have a valid partition but I can mount it

oh, ugly! !search

to find factoids containing thing. see http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt

I even ran fsck on it with -f and it came out clean any tools to “repair” a partition?

why is my mount command ignoring the “exec” option in /etc/mtab?

it contains a software raid 5

s/mtab/fstab

I don’t have smbmount anywhere in the search

the mail server isn’t working so far

what is the mail domain?

so read the factoid again

unixpod.com

Ah well, I could always just mount -t smb

mx servers are working, ports are forwarded

ISP blocking!

no my isp is nice

12.206.255.36?

but oh well, i’ve got to go to bed, gotta wake up early for the first day of school tommorow -_-’ and yes, that is my ip

ok, that part is working

hold on !paste

Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.

yah?

pasting something for you .. hold up a moment http://paste.debian.net/36180

and unixpod.com. mxes to itself

geo-rge: that’s because i am my own mail server? and teh weird?

and/or you don’t have a second machine pulling mx duty

it’s borked somehow geo-rge: it’s his router IP

damn

!smtp test

“telnet myserver 25″, “HELO world”, “MAIL FROM:evil@spammer.org”, “RCPT TO:a@fake.address”, “DATA”, “Subject: spam test”, “”, “.”, “QUIT”

yeah i know how to telnet to a mail server lol see, when i telnet to it from localhost, i get no errors though

so is that router machine pulling mail server duty or is the server on a machine inside your nat?

and now it’s working geo-rge: err

running fdisk -l says md0 doesn’t have a valid partition… what should I do about this?

wait nvm

nvm .. not working ?

500 Error HELO requires FQDN

wait yes, it is working

but only from inside ?

someone reinvented the wheel!

god . it’s so slow

!start a mta war

smail has shitty documentation

no, it’s working from outside

now it is i just typed commands before the banner

wtf, i still am not getting test messages i’m sending myself

reverse dns lookup; slow ns

no kidding

wait yeah, the mail client might be sending the commands before the banner also bwait yeah, the mail client might be sending the commands before the banner also/b

problem solved

i just sent wikichuck mail!

if it’s RFC complient it had better not.

oh good

you’re supposed to wait .. i didn’t

and if i were rfc compliant i’d not misspell it

charlie@server2:~$ mail No mail for charlie

i sent to wikichuck

i’ll check tommorow lol goodnight

do check the smtp logs and see what it did with the mail

ok

hopefully rejected it back to comcast

i’m sad debian install doesn’t detect my network card

get another one

no

NICs are cheap

8 1ISHj6-0001Sx-7g ** wikichuck@unixpod.com: Too many “Received” headers - suspected mail

don’t do that. use ndiswrapper.

one more time and I’ve got to jet… running fdisk -l says md0 doesn’t have a valid partition… what should I do about this?

argh

I had to use ndiswrapper on my wireless card

it’s a software raid

troubleshooting in the morning

all the partitions check out individually fsck -f says everything is clean

mine is wireless too; it’s a linksys wmp54g

hmm I get all kinds of errors logging into X anymore.. I should probably look into that.

so what gives

what NIC Do you have?

earnest, ndiswrapper will work perfect.

I even used ubuntu live disk and used mdadm to detect it and set it up and then mounted it

long live matrox!

Amen

yeah, it looks like ndiswrapper will be the thing to do but this will be painful tho because i will have to somehow give a connection to this machine

painful?

so that i can download stuff unless i burn a cd or something like that

!smbmount

extra, extra, read all about it, smbmount is ’smbmount //HOST/SHARE PASS -c ‘mount MOUNT_POINT”

evening gang

bah but where would I FIND smbmount!? I have samba installed

You need ’smbfs’

or samba-client smbfs too I wonder how to change the username

then you could do as root somethjig like mount -t smbfs (theShare) /local/mount/point

BAH that was easy once I had smbfs

so it worked?

Yar. I used mount -t smbfs //host/share mount_point/ -o username=Kevin,password=password,uid=phlux,gid=phlux

Do you have another NIC on that box?

in general… mount looks like: mount (storage) (mountpoint)

geo-rge: the mount that phlux displays looks ok

greetings, just installed etch with 2 10/100 nics and 1 gigabit card. It is detecing the gigabit card as eth0 and I would prefer to have it as eth1 or eth2, is the easily remedied ?

i just put one

dvsL and it worked too

ugh how do i set up the shift keys? for some reason only my left shift key does anything

you can use udev to rename the device

depends on your transmission if you have a 5-speed, you would set up your shift keys so they match the gear pattern but seriously… never hook your computer to your transmission

lol seriously though this is driving me mad i cant captilise anything

did you pick the wrong keymap ?

?

ifrename

I dont think I did I think it got set when I was messing with xorg.conf

!keymap

To change your console keymap, run “dpkg-reconfigure console-data”. To change your X keymap, read “man xmodmap” or ask me about “set up x”. if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx, or in console you can also use loadkeys (for once)

hmmm why Gnome over KDE?

historical reasons. it’s not like you can’t chose to use either (or other more sane choices, like xfce, no DE, etc.)

horses for courses

more says of forces

debian install says 64MiB of RAM deserves low memory install one of my rams doesn’t want to work very well

what do you do with a .deb file? dpkg -i file?

heh

guess so why isn’t opera in any of my repositories?

!opera

Opera is a cross-platform web browser and Internet suite which handles common internet-related tasks including visiting web sites, sending and receiving e-mail messages. Opera is Freeware (=Version 8.5), but NOT Open-Source. see opera apt

Oh !firefox

~/.gtkrc-2.0 ; fixes the keybindings. see also firefox support, or ask me about iceweasel

hmmmm I don’t have mozilla-firefox in my repos either

you sure don’t

read the factoid again

I don’t want “iceweasel” what’s wrong with Firefox?

it’s basically the same, with a different name

!iceweasel

iceweasel is probably the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is currently different from the browser with the same name from GNU (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla) although it is possible that the two projects will join forces in the future. To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about why iceweasel.

!why iceweasel

Why iceweasel? Debian cannot comply with the conditions necessary to distribute firefox and call it firefox, so we have changed the name to iceweasel. See http://bugs.debian.org/354622 for more information.

msg the bot

Oh, sorry

hi, recently I upgraded from lenny to unstable and now on doing aptitude dist-upgrade, some dependencies are unresolved. I understand that. What does Score is -140 mean?

this is doing my head in now

p-a-v: /msg dpkg sid faq and show us the error in paster bot or as picture (imageshack.us)

as a picture ?

took a picture of the screen

i know but why ?

dunno

how can i take a pic of my dual monitor-ed screen?

the magic word in the sentence is _OR_

what’s the magic word again pls?

nite. sleep tite. let the fleas bit. don’t be a a circus.

!screenshot

screenshot’ feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd

*great* I decided to try out blast and now I have holes all through my desktop. Is there any way to get rid of them? I exited the program and now it can`t repair the old holes

debian/templates

/bin/sh: debian/templates: Is a directory make[1]: *** [debian/linux-image-2.6.181] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/new’ *** [binary/linux-image-2.6.181] Error 2

never seen that before

here, http://paste.debian.net/36182

what is the default log location of tcplog? can’t really find any..

!!!anybody know if a smartlink sl 2800 or an aztek mdp 6880 modem works in etch?

good night; I have etch and by mistake I typed in a terminal “chmod myuser:myiser /*” instead of doing it to my home directory; now I cannot su as root in any terminal; anybody can help me how to fix permissions or how to fix the su command? (my /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files are both OK)

!modem

suck

m-a a-i sl-modem

ah k thanks dude

at least .. it worked for mine

can one use a testing daily to install etch?

i don’t think there’s much of a daily netinst these days

i have an old one ah i can use goodbye-windows cool hmmm does it work for win98 as well as early 32bit editions if they support DOS Real Mode, such as Windows 95 and 98 yes yea team

that is bad being in real mode was the only good thing about these os now what’s the point of a goodbye-microsoft that only work with os’es no one uses

p-a-v: do you get a different output using apt-get instead of aptitude?

but grub says: GRUB Loading stage 1.5\n\nGRUB loading, please wait…\nError 18 Replace \n by real-new-lines Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS

I cannot su as root in a terminal in X mode, but I can in a text terminal (ctrl+Alt+F1)

So I guess my BIOS doesn’t support my hard drive?

does anybody have an idea?

you can try looking for a bios update

or change bios setting for the device

how does one update the BIOS?

can I use rsync to sync just the users’s Maildir folders?

they have instructions at the site where you get it k-man___: yes-ish .. depending on the maildir/imap server

i can create a smaller partition too, no?

you can try

i’m gonna try that because (1) i dont have a floppy disk

sometimes you can do it without a flopppy

how?

CDs sometimes now

hm, interesting

there are other methods .. but check the manuf website

i’ll look into that but will try a smaller partition right now i believe that’d american megatrends; not sure will check

but look first, BIOS update would even “touch” the issue, its NOT without risks if it fails you have to buy or send the chip (EEPROM) in order that somebody fix it

hm, then it’s probably not worth

depends .. check the website!

its worth if the issue is fixed then

i have successfuly done it already, but i synced all the user home directories. This time i just want to sync the Maildir directories… can i limit rsync using wildcards?

you could also feed it a list of dirs IIRC

no, only the Score.. line was missing. I was curious what that meant. upgraded to Sid just to see and learn the Debian Developers way of development

p-a-v: read /msg dpkg sid faq p-a-v: and check out the docs of aptitude then

how do i get rsync to only sync directories with the word “Maildir” in the path?

i did, couldn’t find any reference to what Score means.. hmm, may be I overlooked

knusper:/home/user# man aptitude | grep -i score knusper:/home/user# p-a-v: grep Score /usr/share/doc/aptitude/* If you aren’t able to find a simple answer with a tool you SHOULD unterstand (basic), Why do you use unstable then?

there is some reference to score in the readme. says something about problemresolver.. I’ll read the full file first

hi, if I have many machines behind a NAT and I want to access to all of them from outside via ssh, can they share the 22 port? or do I have to assign a different port for ssh for each one?

gonzaloaf, how in the world could they all be on the same port and ip address? which one would you get connected to if you ssh to your_address:22 ?

dalias, each one have a different private ip address

should be an issue in the configuration setting on your router

can i obtain the complete line of a command listed in ps with the pid ?

yes but a private ip address is not a valid address outside your lan…

streuner, do I have to tell ssh in each machine to use a different port right?

“Port Redirection Table” for example. sure, there are you able to use ANY Port or just 22 and different IPs

since ps lines aren’t wrapped

gonzaloaf, no, but your router needs to do port forwarding, and each of the forwards needs to be on a different port of course

dalias, I understand, I know that I have to tell my router redirect packets

and for each port on the router, you give it a destination ip and port to forward to..

is there a way to run rsync in a “test” mode where it will show me what it is doing but not actually do it?

i think so.. 1 sec -n or –dry-run

thanks

hey all, could some point me to a url that supplies meanings for “kernel time discipline status change” codes I am getting a ” kernel time discipline status change 40 then 1 and would like to understand what this means? related to NTP of course

google doen’t help here?

geo-rge, nope been trying for 20 minutes with google

hello i have a qestion…is there a good gui web browser that works good with blackbox ?

WMs arent care much what kind of browser you use

geo-rge: i got it to work. the –initrd did the trick

maybe you should elaborate a little and explain why the usual suspects aren’t working for you with blackbox?

cool yeah, it’s black magic the way all those scripts work

geor-rge: sure is magic

Hi, is it possible in Debian to make it so that in Iceweasel the middle mouse button will allow you to scroll by moving the mouse, instead of pasting what was last copied?

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