from rar homepage

ok sry^^

ok, then, I download kdebluetooth for feisty, no?

don’t use that no

nono

!tell RLa about unrar !tell RLa about unrar-free

arghhh….

abrotman, no, why?

i meant … for mpx there are packages for feisty x.x

because you’re not using ubuntu

use nick highlighting next time

for me yeh i’m sry

bluesceada, sorry

mixing versions of debian is bad enough .. mixing distros .. recipe for death

abrotman, because i use debian

abrotman, i look for alternatives

urks 229mb package of mpx all in one…

I have a box which gets an extreme amount of connections per second, and “netstat -anp | grep TIME_WAIT | wc -l” returns a whopping 75000 connections. Does a TCP connection always end in TIME_WAIT? If so, Can I reduce the time it waits for extra data on the socket?

freaky packagers

huh ?

don’t even think about installing that shit.

i do why not?

different conventions. things can die. as abrotman said.

hardware die?

bahh.

abrotman, what you suggest?

otherwise … i had gentoo running for a long time so i’m used to things breaking lol

this is different

why?

read the docs? make it work?

i mean like.. ?

IT WILL BREAK

break what?

oh fuck it .. do whatever you want

ok thanks

see you after the reinstall

ah wait you mean it will overwrite parts from other packages without checking ?

abrotman

abrotman, yes, and i search a lot of info on the web, but i don’t find anything about this

bluesceada, it might do anything.

or does apt check such things

maybe ask #kde or #debian-kde

abrotman, only, that for kde4, kbluepin use dbus

in aptitude, how do you redisplay the screen (e.g. ^L)

abrotman, it’s problem of kde? or debian? i think debian, because it’s only in debian abrotman, in addition, they said that it’s problem of debian

so ask #debian-kde

abrotman, thank you

So Abrotman

hi

I did a net install of Debian without a GUI so I could play around for a bit. Just downloaded kde-core and the command “startx” doesn’t run a gui, any help?

to create a TUN interface, what do I need in the kernel? what option?

aptitude install xorg

thanks, stew, why aptitude and not apt-get?

/msg dpkg why aptitude

hi, please just awnser who really knows, what arch of debian i have to install on a instell emt64 processor ?

i know

a 64 bit one?

i386 or amd64

im having segfaults, with both

Depending on what you want.

try memtest86+

s/instel/intell/g

What’s an intell?

s/instell/intel/g

half-intelligence? ;D

salut tou le monde

That’s not a nice thing to say about BarryAllen !fr

Pour l’aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or irc.freenode.net.

unless it’s a server or has 2GB RAM I wouldn’t run amd64 debian

Depends what you want

CONFIG_TUN it’s in debian.

stew, i have 4 servers, with exactly the same hardware, all they have segfaults

sure, but there isn’t really much incentive for 64bit right now. sooner or later it will come, right now: not worth the hassle

Bad batch of RAM at the fab? Buggy install media? It depends what you want

doing what? run memtest on them. are they overheating?

stew, ok, tks

Hi. I’m new to Deb. Is this support?

are they running any exotic hardware? (and the possibly undertested drivers that drive it)

yes

Great

Hello, any ideas on the best way to install an X server with no graphic card?

A combination of support, insults, banter and randomness really.

stew, sure, the problem is the hardware, forget about,.

install a vncserver, i guess? why would you want an xserver on a machine without a video card?

xdmcp?

Ok, I should fit right in then.

eh?

Gah, stew I meant XDMCP?

no, thanks

run the “dummy” X driver. that will work

stew, i dont really beliave the problem is the hardware, ill lookaround, tks for help

which is why i’m asking about hardware drivers

can I select the dummy driver during a dpkg-reconfigure of the xorg file?

Seriously, Debian i386 and amd64 should both run fine on an em64t system. The minimal information you’ve given us points at some kind of hardware or overheating issue with your machines.

afaik not

I’ve installed debian-40r1-i386-CD-1.iso and it won’t see any wireless card. pcmcia atheros and ralink or usb zydas. all light up but nothing in iwconfig

what chip do you actually have?

can I do a fresh ssh install as a desktop to do it for me then?

Are they recognised by “ifconfig -a”?

can someone tell me why people always say to do ’su -’ instead of just ’su’

PerfDave, i saw a log of posts in alot of forums about people, having problems to install emt64 systems…

man su

no. you install X, edit xorg.conf. at least that’s how I did it

Well, I’m not sure about their emt64 systems, but an em64t one should be fine

thanks

ifconfig - a only shows irda and lo

of course they have. lots of shitty proprietary software isn’t really available. flash, java plugin for example

PerfDave, funny guy

as long as you stick to debian main, you are fine however

Perhaps if you gave more information about when and how you see these segfaults it would be useful? OK, so whatever NIC you have isn’t (yet) recognised by the kernel. That’s the first step

PerfDave, you lazy person thanks anyway

can you answer the question please?

lspci and lsusb show the hardware

and what do they say?

That has nothing to do with them being recognised by the kernel. I’m not the lazy person who’s asking on IRC before reading the fucking manpage.

PerfDave, … im sure you cant help me, forget about

I like it when people ask for help and then ignore it

I’m sure nobody can help you while you’re being seemingly deliberately vague about whatever problem it is you’re having. Please stop wasting people’s time. !tell BarryAllen about smart questions

PerfDave, you really want mean that you can “observe” a problem thats depend on the time or with wich process the system hangs with a segfault? you must be joking.

ethernet controller ; atheros comms AR5212 802.11abg (rev

PerfDave, I’m not on linux. otherwise I would. and calm down.

go away. you’ve proven enough that you don’t want help now

how do I go about installing clisp with berkeley-db support?

madwifi and/or ndiswrapper are your only choices. nothing else

do I have to compile clisp for myself?

apt-get the source and build the package with the options you want probably

Oh. I was looking for ath_pci. I’ll get madwifi. Thank you. As connects OK on pcmcia network card,

huh?

Cable connect is OK but no wifi. Old laptop!!

so you know your pcmcia stuff is in order, which is good !tell stuartt about madwifi install

Yes, I’ll plug cable in and get madwifi

installed clisp and clisp-dev, do you point me to a package build tutorial please?

hey, i’m using lenny and trying to run glquake or squake or quake.x11 binaries from ftp.idsoftware.com undur idstuff/unsup/unix. For some reason it is not recognized as a binary. kate recongnizes it as a binary, but it wants to open with wine and if i try on command line it says no such command or no such file or directory

Thanks wols . See you next time I get it wrong.!

why wouldn’t it recognize a 386 binary as an executable? I would compile it from source but i cant find the source code on thier site

ehm maybe because it’s a widnows binary? win32 … and not elf or a.out

file file

!seen phated

‘So… yeah, I’m self-kicking now because I’m offtopic.’.

i thought about that, but its undur unix on thier ftp and its packaged with the linux binary .txt

one mom

clisp-dev isn’t the source? there is no clisp source package?

does anyone know where i can find the fedora linux glquake source? also, the same thing happens with the bianry labeled quake.x11, which i doubt is a win32 bin

how do you open it which package

ah! apt-get source packagename, sorry

i’ve tried through kde, and then the commandline via mv $dir, then ./glquake, also tried putting it in /usr/local/bin

did you read the message on http://mfcn.ilo.de/glxquake/#download “I no longer have the source-code on this site .. Instead the tarball contains (in addition to the binary) a patch (for the original quake sourcecode)..” etc?

Salut à tous hi all

have you set the file to be executable when trying to run it?

yeah i used chmod +x ./glquake

file glquake. what does it say?

i’m at school right now waiting for the bus, sorry, I’ll sign back on from home and get the info thanks, i’ll also check out the patch for the original source

“If you want to compile it yourself, download the quake 1 sourcecode. Extract it and apply my patch to the WinQuake directory of the archive: patch -p0 /path/to/mfcns_glquake.patch. Change to the WinQuake directory and type make to compile it.”

if it’S ELF, then run “ldd glquake” and make sure all libs it wants are available

hello I’ve just installed etch (with all the updates) on my thinkpad T40, and when I added the ‘cpu freq. scalling monitor’ to the panel, it gave me an error message saying that cpu freq. scalling was not supported Though in windows, I know it is supported, and works I have been reading throuhg some documentation, but nothing I’ve found seems to be working the processor is an Intel Pentium M at 1.7GHz, and it should step down to 600Mhz

heyas..

modprobe speedstep-centrino

k

todays sid update killed my X (nvidia config, stock 2.6.22 kernel). installing a precompiled nvidia mod odes not work. Ideas on fixing?

(as root), you may want to add that to /etc/modules so that it gets loaded automatically at boot

yeah, I added it, lemme test that panel thing again

hi friends, i have a debian distri with kernel 2.6.16-2 but my sourcelist comes per default with sarge repositories and it’s a problem for me bacuase if i want to install some software or its packages are out of date or doesn’t exist. my question is:

hmmmm my system is not broken at all after installing the mpx package (which just installs in /opt/mpx

Is there any way to back up a machine into installable boot disks?

!info bootcd etch

can i change sarge for etch in my sourcelist without problems or this change can be bad?

(run your system from cd without need for disks), section utils, is extra. Version: 3.00 (etch), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 228 kB

!tell iguanna about sarge-etch

well, it loaded without error I guess the best way to test it is to take off the AC power and let it run on battery see if it steps nope is there anything else I have to do?

remove and try adding the applet again

I did

On loading the mouse module, it tells me no drv available… And then ofc no screens found.

install cpufreqd

What am I missing? (usb mouse)

look at the mondo package

and/or cpufrequtils

modprobe cpufreq_ondemand and see

k

valdyn, THATS THE ONE!

hi guys

hark, loaded

you can check with cpufreq-info

hark, yeah, it lists a bunch of steps, they look right

Hi

hey .. I’m trying to intsall postfix (apt-get install postfix) and it wants to instally something like 40 packages — is that normaly?

LoadModule nvidia: not found; manually loading the kernel mod works.

s/normaly/normal

mail is quite usual…

what do you mean?

I’m trying to burn a data dvd, after burn , the file name not appear as it is, the file name include a log chinese names, and it’s replacing the names with _____ and removing the extention ! , how can I burn that data with the all file names

Mail has loads of depends..

how _exactly_ are you burning it?

install mailx first perhaps

alright.. i’ll try it is there some reason why apt-get installs more than aptitude?

___ i try with nero linux and k3b, dero did not accept to burn , But k3b burn it , but file name not appear as I told you

you use unicode ( utf ) on debian?

I don’t know, But the file name appear usually

ugh, why does it want to install emacs

install mailx first

see ‘man genisoimage’, –output-codepage etc

if you don’t have an MUA installed .. it grabs one .. and it goes for emacs

i dont know a thing about chinese charsets, but that direction you need to look

lsub as a non-root user gives no info - as root it works? Does anyone have any ideas? s/lsub/lsusb

k3b too uses genisoimage to generate the dvd image before burning it

k brb rebooting

but that wants to install exim, and I don’t want that

aptitude install mailx postfix

wicked. now it’s just intsally a bunch of libraries thanks!

someone should be shot dead over that

hey guys. my university is using 802.1x authentication. should i be using xsupplicant to do this?

lsusb as non-root user gives no info - as root it works? Does anyone have any ideas? I am using testing, lenny, 2.6.18-4-686.

your kernel is out of date

should I do an upgrade to a 2.6.2* ?

what is the mailx package?

apt-cache show mailx

it likely won’t solve the problem .. install linux-image-2.6-686

I know, its odd, I was playing a little bit with udev for support of my PDA - a blackberry I think I must have done something stupid

cool, thanks man

hey guys. my university is using 802.1x authentication. should i be using xsupplicant to do this?

You can or wpa supplicant or xsupplicant doesn’t matter

hey i want to execute an application on a remote host and have it ouput to the remote host..and i dont want to set up vncserver on that box

ssh?

cant i execute an x11 app to the 0 session ya but i want it to run so the user can see the output yigal like say user A is loged into and user the :0 Xsession how do i fire that app off so that it displays on the :0 xsession

Using Postfix. A user gets big attachements and the connection pipe isn’t that big, so it takes a long time to download email. Could I get a 2mb limit on users mailbox or just reject all attachments over X size for user?

one way to do that is to have a mail server outside, and run also spamassassin on it

I have compiled the linux-2.6.22.6 kernel. Everything seems to have gone well. But the initrd file is not being created. Does anybody know the solution?

why do you need/want an initrd?

did you use make=kpkg

raid, encrypted root fs or such? no initrd necessary usually. and yes, definitely use make-kpkg

geo-rge: no. I followed the standard procedure for kernel compilation

it doesn’t make one by itself use make-kpkg, and feed it –initrd

geo-rge: ok

the resulting package will create an initrd maybe you don’t -need- an initrd… but that’s how to get one or, one way

more importantly it’s the debian way

the basic deal is, that debian package you build out of the kernel can then be installed on different machines, and it will try to figure out what needs to be in the initrd for THAT machine to mount / you already have the kernel source and it’s already configured… just run the make-kpkg –initrd kernel_image inside the source dir then after it’s done the package will be in .. (if successful)

Since blackdown is no more… where can I get j2sk for amd64?

geo-rge: Thanks a lot for your suggestions

You want the plugin right ?

(and if you don’t have make-kpkg…. apt-get install kernel-package

geo-rge: what?

otherwise just use sun-java5-bin (or 5-bin)

whats a mailserver outside have to do with anything?

Yup… And I already tried sun-java5-plugin… Never did a thing

blackdown gone? what happenend to karl?

It is scheduled to be added to java7 anyway

Hi. I have a running etch server, which I control with ssh and vnc4server. Now I want to remove the grafic card but now the x-server fails to start. Any hints?

usually debian repos have it. non-free or contrib there is no browser plugin tho

you can’t run an X server without a graphics card… use ssh X forwarding instead

use a videodriver that doesn’t need a card (”dummy”)

well… not anymore… since blackdown is gone…

not true

okay, i’ll try

that’s just silly

where did I say ANYTHING about blackdown? !tell zamuro about java

what would be the point of running an x server without a card

I did… Actually, that was the question I made in the first place.

and I don’t care what you said. I told you where you can get it. your choice if you don’t want to follow the advice but if you don’t, why did you even bother us asking?

cuz i ran out of ideas, maybe?

hi, does anyone know if it’s possible to get sox with mp3 support in debian?

geo-rge: running WINE kinda needs X

Aaah, thank you for the tip, works fine. Changed driver “nv” to “dummy”

and I wanted to run something that requires wine

what would be the point of running wine without a display

so you can run a program there

oh ok

Yes, I can run X without grafic card

um i think wine can actually run without X…

vnc

not really sure though

so you’re running a win32 program that is a commandline thing?

no.I run a win32 program that uses DX5 actually

never heard of dx5

direct x 5

directx 5

oh a game?

yes

!directx

i heard directx is A Microsoft technology that works under Windows 95 and Windows NT 4.x. Basically, it’s a set of APIs that allow programmers to access more directly sound and graphics capabilities of the computer allowing for, among other things, great games. It’s not available for linux, use openGL. i heard directx is A Microsoft technology that works under Windows 95 and Windows NT 4.x. Basically, it’s a set of APIs that allow programmers to access more directly sound and graphics capabilities of the computer allowing for, among other things, great games. It’s not available for linux, use openGL.

quite old. the expansion uses DX7 or comes with it at least

ok, this is a video game?

2000-2001 it’s D2

diablo2? i play that too

heh

ahh I have that somewhere

what doesn’t work?

woult that be a multiplayer server?

geo-rge: no, alcient

heh I’m wondering that too

*a client it does work fine, for what I use it

ok good

it took some fidgeting on a headless server without mouse or keyboard of course

obviously, unixwheel wasn’t a member of the wheel group…

in D2, people make chars for only holding found items. “mule”

Since webmin is removed from etch, is there a good replacement?

if you don’t access a mule for 90 days, blizzard deletes it. that sucks

why in the world do you run a d2 client on a machine without video?

accessing them regularly sucks as well so I wanted linux to do it (with a little help from a program, an autoit script)

well, if you want a separate account for it you’re gonna need a second cd key

oh, to keep your acct around

if you wanna play and mule at the same time

keys are no problem. I usually do HF rushes with 7 mules

does anyone know if it’s possible to get sox with mp3 support in debian?

heh

fucking ubuntu I swear to god

PriceChild swift lean and mean etc. Progress or die!

utterly useless

head-shaking ubuntu user

?

Shh, be nice

9 UTC 2007 x86_64

Nyle, good time to switch to debian?

I’m on debian I’m just saying, ubuntu is crap sorry

^^

sounds like an awful lot of work just to go all ‘LEROY JENKINS’ on a game

o dunno, gotta run iab… isnt this ubuntu nice ?

english?

ubuntu is a pain in the ass

at all, to explain. The etch server should be used from WindowsClients, so X-Forwarding is only possible with Cygwin-X or other Windows-X and harder to configure (for win-user) than VNC-Client (UltraVnc).

debian is the best without doubt

i like the fact that its out there and people are using it..but hell the way the root user is handled…funnnnky

I read Ian Murdocks weblog last night, some old article

always remember: All software sucks. ALL of it. no exceptions

no, the programmers suck

every os sucks i got that video

humans suck

god sucks

we’re the ones making software, if software sucks, logically so do humans

I shall Behemoth awayeth fuxxorings the ladies for a whileth, i Trust in noone so you have been ordered to take charge

black holes suck the most

true

har har

true

Its a phaze in which i like :

you fail logic 101

I actually aced that class and every single philosophy/logic course I’ve taken in college thank you very much

yay did you learn anything tho?

no matter how many classes you aced, your loigic is still faulty

wols; Would you like to not chat for as long as i libe disch :

when I have a debian source package, how do I build that (sorry for this stupid question)?

it’s actually worse than my typing if you can believe that

it usually installs a tarball

I only love abrotman. and ponies. Not you, so go away please

find that

Get a groupie man, your ladixxen are horrid

int he place you ran apt-get source, there is no a directoriy from your install go in there and run dpkg-buildpackage or such

geo-rge: well, apt-get source created directory including the usual stuff (source + configure), and a /debian/

Cock down lady…

okay

ok, ty, that did i

hi

*it

my sound card isnt working on debian testing

ok, so try fakeroot debian/rules clean

i tried to install apt-get install alsa-base

and then do

but got The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!

fakeroot debian/rules build and fakeroot debian/rules binary

please keep it on-topic. do you have a debian related question?

actually, I just wanted to find out why starting gnome-keybindings-properties crashes with a segfault on start

http://abrotman.rules.mange.dynalias.org.linux.html

(which is what dpkg-buildpackage would do, among other things)

Öpve you all, keep the good spiritualis! Love

you’ve been silenced for being off-topic. if you decide you want to be on-topic, you can contact me privately

Is there some magic way to get kernel-package to build for amd64 on i386 (I have 4gb ram and the app I need is particularly painful to use chrooted) - debian amd64 kernel is working fine - and gcc-multilib is working fine (i.e using -m64)

amd64 is beautiful

ls -d shouldn’t give directories ? t says only “.”

I’m still trying to understand the reason why Etch (stable) is so unstable while unstable is so very stable its like backwards regarding amd64

Nyle, because you’re using the wrong definition of stable.

maybe because of the admin

cause etch for amd64 isn’t really mature software

I’m probably wrong about half the shit I say anyway

sid had more time

ahh which is what I was thinking

The problems with a 64 bit kernel and a 32 bit userland seem have been sorted out anyway (well alsa and nvidia anyway are fine here)

audio/video transcoding seems almost twice as fast on 64bit I don’t know if this is percieved on my part, or if it is actually faster

It probably is

but whatever, its cool

anyone using debian/amd64?

ohhh gnome 2.20 just got released

I have lenny 64bit, never had problems with this, why have others?

Hi everyone!

wAndyw78, can you post your sources.list please?

Today I was totally confused by scanf() behavior

by speaking of source.list is there a tool to generate them like the netinstaller do ?

I have the standard one, never did a change

i mean by selecting country etc.

arglh. Is there *any* way to tell apt that “no, I don’t care, I’m not going to install a mail-transfer-agent, even if you think some package needs it!”?

wAndyw78, please, post it

go to debian.org, have a look at the mirror list

I thought that scanf “%d %d %d %d” of “1 4 2\n” would result in 3 and 3 variables processed. But in reality it continues to read stdin

i deleted mine

yeah i know that but there is no tool or a script or something like that?

have it on my laptop, which I have in my car… Very urgent?

y

if i wanna download a file with wget from an httpd and there is a ‘-’ in it. Do I have to escape it? e.g. wget “http://example.com/test/x-y.txt“

maxxle, I don’t think so

maxxle, pretty sure hyphens don’t need escaping, but certain other chars need escaping

why don’t use apt-spy, for example?

i can’t install anything

so - do I have to escape the ‘-’ ?

maxxle, try it and find out? or escape it anyway, it can’t hurt.

no why would you have to escape it?

hm - ok

Downloaded the source for clisp with apt-get source clisp. Now I can build the package with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b but where do I tell it to build the package with the berkeley-db module support e.g. –with-module=berkeley-db ?

because if there is a blank in the filename i have to escape it too

yes

chrismay`: look in debian/rules

a blank is the shell argument separator

And browsers do use some other code for blank as well

yes + or %20 for example

/msg dpkg sources.list /msg dpkg mirrors

the problem is that i can’t download the file in iceweasel as well

hark, ? hm yes, hark but i need it for amd64

Maybe because example.com isn’t hosting any files?

hehe sure it doesn’t

Try some –very-verbose-plz flag for wget mayube *maybe

don’t worry about that.. apt automatically generates a URI with the current architecture

hark

I#ll go to my car….

so if i just use the regular lenny mirror means i will get a amd64-lenny?

is ftp.de.debian.org somehow broken? i have md5 mismatches since yesterday

if you use an amd64 installation cd, yes

i did, yes 4.0 netinst-amd6t4 -t

posted you my sources.list

wAndyw, where?

private message

uh have no private msg ?

you have to be identified first

argh ok now i’m identified

can any one help me to install my sound card please (debian testing)

wAndyw, can you please re-post the file?

what kind of card?

You need to put it in the exansion slot

pipatron CK804 AC’97 Audio Controller

pfff….. i’ve downloaded the file from another server - thx. thx

D’oh, /names in here is a really bad idea

connected to your computer how?

heh only 816 nicks, cant imagine why

pipatron integrated in the mother board

Not if you have a huge screen and want to brag about how big screen you have

!tell _gpg_ about alsa checklist

dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base, i’ve selected the right driver but still not working

“not working” People on IRC love that expression

pipatron right pipatron well pipatron any idea ?

Of course not, could be anything Is the volume set to 0%?

hi all I’m trying to install a 2-cd game with wine (on debian sid) all works well, but I don’t know how to switch my cd

works?

press the little “eject” button on the CD player

yes, works thanks a lot

pipatron http://pastebin.com/m7c5ba73b

wAndyw,

when I put the other one, the installer ask repeately for cd2

copyprotection

wow the new gnome theme is nice and already in unstable

yes, it’s very nice

which?

the default one from 2.20

clearlooks

smooth and sexy

same as 2.18 ?

http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/ im using it with gilouche windows border fits perfect with this as border http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/1286

pipatron udevtrigger, seems that alsaconf is obsolete

Check the manpages for amixer, see what /dev/foo it tries to use, probably some /dev/mixer1 or something, I can’t remember And you probably don’t have that device, so you need to tell it to use something else

pipatron i’ve just used udevtrigger and the sound is ok

Okay

is there an ncurses interface for configuring networking interfaces in debina?

not that i know of !interfaces

read “man resolv.conf” for DNS also ask me about static route

just edit the file there are frontends in kde and gnome

ncurses interface for networks = nano

lol

etherconf

command not found

!info etherconf

!installit

*** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you’ve been told to use isn’t there, install it. Also ask me about search. if someone suggests an application to you, it’s highly likely that it’s available via apt-get

apt-get install: package etherconf not found

apt-cache search etherconf

i thought etherconf was gone in etch

oh, its gone

is it possible to just download the packages instead of installing them?

yes

using apt-get

yes

man apt-get .. yes

read the manpage

ok thx

thx is a registred trademark

thnx

gee golly apt-cache search etherconf not found

!info etherconf etch

Someone made an amiga program called THX, they got seriously threatening letters from george lucas & co…

nope

hi

i’m going to install an app which uses it’s own wizard and requires to do it from root account. I really don’t want to mess my distro, so how can i check which files it really creates? i’ve tried fakeroot, but the installer doesn’t run is there any tool for monitoring files created by given process?

strace

checkinstall

you know what

no

FUCK debian

tell us

fuck debian up the stupid ass

i’m installing the new lotus symphony. They don’t give source code so no checkinstall

Where?

in your mom’s basement. 2.6.18-5-486

She lives in an apartment

seriously do you realize how old that kernel is? how is that “stable”? it’s more like.. “ancient”

do you need help ?

2.6.18 hasn’t been used in fedora since fucking november of 2006 at the latest. at the LATEST

checkinstall has nothing to do with source code

too bad

strace? omg, i’m not such a hardcore user to use stace :/

yea, i need help figuring out why debian’s idea of “stable” is almost as old as ethernet itself.

I got my license plates!

DO YOU NEED HELP?

yippy

yea nigga

no more bus taking, I can drive again

if you’re just here to troll .. go away

i’m not trolling

please refrain from that in here

 

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i’m just stating the obvious

yes .. you are

trolling would be me ranting and raving about incoherent bullshit

go somewhere else to do it

!ops hpc_lulz trolling/racism

Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: valdyn complains about: hpc_lulz trolling/racism

!ops hpc_lulz torolling

Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: abrotman complains about: hpc_lulz torolling

whereas i’m actually making a valid point racism?

So you’re just a moron

wait, what did i say that was racist?

that was uncalled for, should give a warning first

“nigga” is not a racial slur, it is a term of endearment as a matter of fact.

Without any clue whatsoever about anything related to debian

no

hi all, how can i install dircolors (i want to have the same like i have under gentoo)

if he persists more than once, then plase by all means ops

if you want to get incredibly politically correct on the issue

gotta love the typical argument about what trolling *really* is from trolls.

now I agree with you, he won’t let up

heh 2 UTC 2007 i686

do you have a debian related question?

if you don’t like it .. use another distro .. stop whining/trolling

/dev/unrandom: No such file or directory

moron

wow, banned?

unrandom he wanted /dev/zero non no he is not banned

no .. he tried to cat /dev/urandom into the channel .. likely using bitchx which died when he tried

Does ipw3945-modules-2.6.18-4-686 has been removed from *all* mirror or just from mine?

Do you get a lot of those retards here?

oh sorry

claudio`: you want -5-

nor apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade install the version -5- on my system.

on the weekends, usually, yes

hey guys i have a question

weekday are mostly fine

no

can anybody answer it?

claudio`: do you have security lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?

no

!ask

“I have a problem with ___; I’m running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___.” Don’t ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We’re all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don’t get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org

of course, i have

^^

claudio`: can you show it to me ?

sure

well you see

shut up

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free

my problem is that i can’t stop singing the theme to “happy days”

that are my security mirrors.

i watched a clip of fonzy jumping the shark last night

claudio`: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686

now, it’s all…SUNDAY MONDAY HAPPY DAYS tuesday wednesday happy days

done

thank you kind sir

thank you claudio`: and what happened ?

np

claudio`: look on packages.debian.org

the -5- is istalling why “upgrade” and “dist-upgrade” don’t install it?

claudio`: and now you should be able to get your modules for ipw3945

for what?

the package you are looking for

claudio`: you didn’t have the metapackage installed

i already know what i’m looking for. THX

claudio`: I know, I was trying to answer you question

aaah, this because i done the expert installation

claudio`: the metapackage grabs the newest version ..

claudio`: its a new package, not just a new version of a package claudio`: the 5 makes it a new package

abrotman was quite helpful. THX anyway yes, but with the metapackage it works, indeed THX and THX to you, of course

too much THX!

and that should come from the security repo?

claudio`: debian has to change kernel / module versions if they break binary compatibility

afaik etch is frozen with -4 -5 is probably security related

claudio`: because this _could_ break custom modules for instance

yes, i’d read the release notes :p hx again *thx

wow you actually read the release notes you might actually be worth helping j/k

obviously that security fix broke binary interfaces ( between kernel and modules )

-.-

is there a way to tell python-ldap not to try to use SASL for ldap.initialize(’ldaps://some.host‘) ?

FFS .. fix your internet/client

i’ve added an entry to my hosts file to remap a name to a differnt ip than dns thinks it is but i think the old ip is still in my dns cache. how can i flush that?

reboot

you’re wrong?

well, ping pings the address i want but nslookup finds the old address

/etc/hosts should take precedence over any ‘cache’. At most restart the app nslookup never queries /etc/hosts

nslookup doesn’t use /etc/hosts

ahh okay

it just does what the name sais

yeah, restarting the app worked. i probably should have thought of that yeah, restarting the app worked. i probably should have thought of that

I’ve got 192kb worth 0.0.0.0 mapped hosts browsing is good that plus adblock totally kills all banners and ads, and browsing is fast. I also compiled a list of adblocked hosts for konqueror if anyone wants it, fairly comprehensive, and does not get int he way of browsing

just privoxy gets most

whats that?

a filtering proxy

how do i produce a patch file between two source directories?

is there any other way to override the CFLAGS in debian/rules besides manually editing the file?

diff -r

free?

!info privoxy

(Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy), section web, is optional. Version: 3.0.6-3 (sid), Packaged size: 1244 kB, Installed size: 2700 kB

privoxy.org oh its packaged! wow

that’s what happens when you have your client on autoconnect/autojoin for too many loaded channels

usual is diff -Urn or similar. whatever means unified, recursive, new files as blank. I probably got the caps wrong

urn hehe set mode miRc hehe

that’s what happens when your client sucks thanks again

true.. if it paused between joins for a bit, it wouldn’t get the sendq error

PARTYTIME

6

is there a way to see which bus the d-sub is?

abrotman, np, may I pm you

uhm .. i think so are you allowed to deny staff ?

abrotman, yes

hehe .. yeah .. go ahead

and the politics of that are interesting

not if you insist on using a space between the question and the questionmark

i can’t help it!

then you’re not allowed to do *anything* until you improve

i’ve been doing it for years

maybe you’re french? :/

he would be lebrotman then

I guess a ban from #debian didn’t fix his problem

you’re not the first person to suggest that

hi

he’s still sendq’in in circles

i would like to use pidstat from package sysstat on my unstable machine to get the io usage of each process my kernel is 2.6.22-2 but neither pidstat nor atop work with me

What’s stopping you?

Kevin`: -Nru

my main man whatsup

atop says: No disk-activity figures available; request ignored

does it make any sense to run program from root acount using fakeroot? Will this program have write acces to my syster directories like /usr?

and pidstat just does not show anything

no, it’s FAKE.

What command can show me what version of gcc was used to compile my current kernel?

is there a special module to load?

Fakeroot means fake-/ As in, root directory

fakeroot gives no permissions at all

Not root user

its only there to accomodate a shortcoming of ‘tar’ for instance

same old

Well ok, not that simple

even if i run fakeroot from ROOT account?

fakeroot - run a command in an environment faking root privileges for file manipulation

it just does effecticely nothing

fakeroot doesn’t take any permissions from the runs that runs it

it just does effecticely nothing run as root

ohhh… i see

‘cat /proc/version’ seems to do it

now, if fakeroot would be so nice to do a unionfs and allow “writing” everywhere, that would be fun.

I think it basically makes the program you run with it _think_ you are root by messing with libraries

any ideas?

Hello all…can anyone point to a page describing the logic behind having the .so symlinks in the -dev packages rather than the main lib* package?

i’ve read that it should work on kernels greater than 2.6.20

hey

common any hints, google is not a great help either ?

atop needs to run as root not sure if it still needs an extra kernel module

i’ve run everything as root i mean pidstat and atop

kernel-patch-atopcnt - additional statistical counters for atop

how can I find out why is my X cursor hidden (presumably, by an app)?

What’s the “right” resolution for a 15.1″ widescreen? The 1024×768 seems to be a bit strange.

1280×768 maybe

uhm.. let me try

claudio`: anything fitting the aspect claudio`: anything fitting the aspect ratio

claudio`: 15.4″

widescreen sucks anyway

claudio`: though you should read the manual that came with it..

it’s the laptop ..there is nothing about.

0 widescreens, some have 1280×800 “WXGA”, some have 1680×1050

claudio`: lcd displays have a fixed resolution claudio`: rtm.

+f

what part of “there is nothing about” you didn’t understood?

claudio`: i dont believe you

claudio`: tell us the model and we’ll tell you the resolution

uh.. ok Acer TravelMate 4200

claudio`: look up the part number on the manufacturer’s web pages?

has anyone here used python-ldap on debian (with ldaps)? It seems to act differently than on other distros.

sure, there is only the *maximum* resolution supported, not the “suggested”.

1280×800

good, THX

google for 1 second

can you give me the URL you found, please? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Acer+TravelMate+4200+resolution&btnG=Search

anyone else finding satellite data in Google Maps is showing up missing? San Jose, CA, close-in zooms turn up data unavailable.

this is what i tried but there is nothing of “official”, AFAIK anyway, i’m trying 2180×800. THX

http://www.superwarehouse.com/Acer~TravelMate_4200-series.htm

That seems to be the maximum resolution, indeed.

TFT/LCD only have one fixed resolution

yay NSLU2 debian

If you’re lucky it can resample other resolutions to that

is there a way to have a seperate Linux OS to run in “emulator” during a running session?

Plenty

you can certainly run linux hosting in a vm

qemu, xen, vmware, etc Then there was this I can’t remember now Running the kernel as a user process uml? user mode linux

the system is not recognizing my 2nd dvd-rw drive, where should i start troubleshooting?

the bios maybe

craig, virtualbox maybe ? but the are all so heavyweight if that is the right word

worked fine under windows, fresh install of debian as of 1 hour ago

Okay, just checking. IDE?

scsi

Weirdo

lol

hello. My name server resolves say host.example.com to the internet as 1.2.3.4. I’d like that same name host.example.com resolves to a different dedicated ip hosting (say 10.0.0.100) if it is being queried from my local LAN. Is this possible?

yes

pickcoder, how?

Everything is possible, unfortunately

anyone know how to play a cd in analog mode (not cdda) on linux?

asulao, (1) set up your own dns server (2) customize as you want

set up a DNS server on your LAN and serve a zone for your LAN network

Check out dnsmasq

I’m using bind is it possible with bind ? Eulex, I have my own dns server already

If you know how to configure bind you wuldn’t be here asking

is there a way to list all my drives?

I’m trying to have it serve different IP depending if names are being queried for from my local LAN of from the Inet. pipatron, I’m not bind expert, that’s why I’m asking

dunno, check /proc/bus/scsi/ maybe

like in fdisk -l ?

yes

xD how?

setup a local domain zone then you need to allow recursion and transfer on your DNS server, for you lan.

the device is not in /proc/scsi/scsi. all my other drives are. advice?

rejected

lol, thanks anyhow

checked dmesg? dmesg | grep scsi

not in there either.. dmesg | grep -i cd | grep -i cdrom

I run Debian Sid x86-64 with the binary nVidia driver (so not running xorg 7.3). Over the past few days I have been experienced weirdness with X with various programs freezing (mainly firefox, but currently xfdesktop will not start). Is there some way to revert to the previous versions of stuff from before xorg 7.3 came out? And where can I find status on the nvidia-glx package being updated in Sid?

pickcoder, thanks I’d need to find out more, just followed the dns howto.

binary drivers ;(

Yes, binary drivers

so sad

it’s not an easy to explain thing if you’re totally new to bind you need to find an example online and hack it up

I have several zones in named.conf, which are queried depending on what is queried, right ? Say if host.example.com is queried then zone “example.com” is used to get the host Ok?

right

so where do I put my host.example.com resolution IF query comes from local LAN? I already have host.example.com to be say 1.2.3.4 inside zone “example.com”

are you using bind for external resolution?

Hmm… it seems to be working right now… xfdesktop just takes about 5 minutes to start…

yes both internal and external

Anyone know where I could find out about the status of the nvidia-glx package?

I’ve never hosted both on the same bind server

You could try removing the ‘–mswindows-delay’ switch

I would host my internal DNS on another machine and use the same domain zone

Okay, so what you people do is have a different dns server than for external right?

set the default gateway to the link that has the DNS server you want to transfer to that’s what _I_ would do… not saying that’s the only or right way

oh well, don’t have more machines

How many NICs in the server?

bind it to a local interface?

1

Yeah

erm

Ok, not then.

what about domain searches

Bah Details.

look at query-source

googling it…

I’m having a hard time figuring out how to set up shared keys between my ubuntu system and the debian servers… I managed to get it working with the fedora servers, but I need some help now…

you could host both, but you’d have to do some port mangling on one interface

any opinions on balsa vs. claws as a gnome email client? or maybe a better alternative?

postgresql-client (= 7.4.0) | postgresql-client (= 8.1) but it seems that the libs are in postgresql-dev but only for 7.4? for 8 it’s already in? is there a way to do this check? can I grup then in ( ) ?

ssh-keygen on the ubuntu box, then add the id_*.pub files to the ed of .ssh/authorized_keys on debian servers?

pipatron, tried it

Or did I completely misunderstand you?

pipatron, you understood me, on the fedora servers i used authorized_keys2, i’m trying both on the debian server

actually..look at sortlist

In debian it’s just .ssh/authorized_keys

you may be able to put them all in the same zone file

Try ’ssh -vvv server’

I’ve never done that, though then again I’m no expert

what is a fast and lightweight gnome email client?

See if that tells you anything of interest, also ‘tail /var/log/syslog’ or something on the servers mutt

pipatron, http://pastebin.ca/706397

Your keys are messed up it seems

that will probably expose your internal IPs though, unless you can find a way to block that

pipatron, it works on other servers though…

From the same client?

yup

Interesting.

it’s worked on 2, not working on this 1, haven’t tried on the other debian server yet

there is no lightweight gnome stuff anymore (its polluted with mono and java and python etc)

h3sp4wn, somewhat true, but there are still some C stuff

How the ***** could someone think actually coding gnome apps in C# would be a great ide?

well, if you could restrain your app set to be only python, or only mono, or only java, that wouldn’t hurt much

h3sp4wn, i know claws is pretty fast, but not sure about its stability

pickcoder, I wouldn’t want that local IPs get exposed if possible.

pipatron, 700 for .ssh and 600 for the authorized_keys file?

Yeah

concerning query-source: the way to use it would be to have several zone “example.com” with query-source option inside with different query-source IP ?

pipatron, ……..it worked on the virtual debian server running on that same debian server

So it’s a PEBKAC

pipatron, i hope i’m not that dense

You could add some extra logging to the server /etc/ssh/sshd_config, there’s an option called LogLevel, you can set it to VERBOSE or DEBUG

jelly-home: could be solaris but I doubt its changed that much underneath - between solaris 10 and solaris express now (It shouldn’t be crappy with 4cpu’s and 4gb ram) - btw compiling an amd64 kernel on i386 is not difficult with gcc-multiarch (I guess you probably figured it out now anyway)

pipatron, it was pebkac

no.. it’s an option

Good

thanks for pointing that out

that’s where external queries come from

It usually is

what the hell is this? b.0: state=3, current

If I add a user with adduser, do I have also add the same user with same passwort with smdpasswd -a ?

otherwise external queries go out the default interface

i got a router that writes that to the syslog..several times a min

I’d say “yes” Don’t quote me on that though

ya ya do wAndyw78 last i heard you did

In theory I guess they could use PAM oslt

there are front ends for doing all that im sure

but what happens, I only one passwort will be changed? I think this is stupid

No Normally you don’t want to add 400 complete users to your fileserver

its not stupid..beats the hell out of a system that is soo integrated that you have to remove permisions for all the other users on the syste.

what would i do, if so?

You modify your adduser script to also cal smbpasswd *call

how does one use samba server ?

ah, okay…

apt-get install samba swat

!samba

rumour has it, samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O’Reilly’s book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html)

that means i want to have 3 user, each should have access to their home directories on the linux box then i have to: add 3 users to create their home dirs and then add these 3 users mit smbpasswd and the username and passwd MUST match?

our 130,000 dollar NAS uses a cifs server..(when i have to dig into it i swear its just an expensive samba server, and the os is definatly linux)

The samba password doesn’t have to match the linux password

that thing is a workhorse.

Okay, thanks. but the username has to match if they wan’t to access their home directory ?

Not necessarily, you can configure that as well But by default, samba exports their homedirs There’s an annoying “feature” in samba/SMB, you can’t export a folder called ‘pipe’ Which happens to be my username everywhere… So everyones homedirs works, except mine..

heh

okay, it works: Thought it would be sufficient to add linux users. But it is possible to add SMB user without linux users? I think so I’ll try

how do I easily export latin-1 gtktalog report to csv? …

with perl. next question?

What would be a good name for an LVM Volume group? atm im thinking along the lines of ‘File System’ or ‘File Server’

vg0 or vg00

I’m asking just for the sake of complementarity, not really expecting that anyone would have experience with this problem cdcat crashes on import btw ok, thx

pipatron can you give me a reason please?

it’s the defacto default naming scheme

damn, maybe I should try to hone my non-existant coding skillz with that one (with python though)

naming it something else is like installing something on D in windows. It works, but you bet that something will eventually break it

HM anyone know why it says (microsoft) after the mac address of my default gatewat gateway

pipatron so the first volume group i made should be vg0 and then vg1 after that and then vg2 etc?

Why are you planning on having so many?

You can call it anything you want - mine is called tank

pipatron multiple hdds

I think debian installer names them vg00

how do I debug a program which is started from a script?

The point with LVM is that you pool your HDs

pipatron multiple operating systems then

But yeah, you can name them whatever you want, but I’d avoid any spaces You’ll have to type escape chars until the end of time Also, it’s dead easy to rename volume groups afterwards

leave a decent amount of free space though for snapshots etc

pipatron how do i rename volume groups?

What program? What script? vgrename

pipatron thanks

a compiled C program, which is launched from a shell script; and I want to debug the C program using GDB

You have to edit the script Or that’s the most trivial way to do it

#gdb directed me to gdb –args, I’ll check that

You could most probably also hook yourself up to the program at runtime, but I don’t know anything about gdb really

yes, I know how to debug running programs (attach #pid), but this program crashes at startup

So fix it Then debug!

it’s not my program it’s gnome-keybindings-properties so pretty complicated

Linux, bsd, solaris, macosx are all unix right?

linux isn’t, the rest are

yes, at least all the APIs are the same

No - only solaris and the new macosx are (other than BSDI)

Unix itself is a trademark I think, and thus Linux isn’t Unix

why are other BSDs not Unix?

\amethyst: because its a certification

ah

am I going crazy or has xserver-xorg suddenly added fglrx-driver as a conflict?

gnome-keybindings-propertis is probably written in java running on top of a C# interpreter written in python

heh… no, but they have some kind of strange infrastructure around these gnome-control-center applets the program crashes in main, calling g_free and then free

I just noticed that gnome-trashcan-applet has allocated 4MB of heap just for nothing at all apparently didn’t check the source, I was just checking who was using the memory in my computer

isn’t that typical for Gnome

Yeah But I’m still using it

well, I wouldn’t care about gnome, but the gnome session demon thingy somehow blocks some of my keyboard keys

evil.

so I tried looking into it, but the keybinding config program crashes, so I have to debug it

good luck

I’ll need that

hiii

is ‘File.System’ and ‘File.Server’ one word? and is a volume group more like a file system or a file server?

a volume group is like one huge harddrive

how can i reset my network is it still xinet.d or somthing

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/anatomy.html

/etc/init.d/networking restart

ta

I think i will name my volume group ‘Filesystem’

Normally you want as few volume groups as possible

how do you execute a file with a . in front of it ? /smthn/.file or ~/

is lenny going to stick with kernel 2.6.21 or is the final release going to use 2.6.22?

yes.

which one

Whichever works

there’s nothing special about .

likely something a few versions on even that is not made yet

that’s a good bit off still

2.6.31 probably

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TPB is well funny

Whats the main lenny repository?

undesktop, ehat / what even

?

there’s nothing special about .

If you can’t execute a file starting with a dot, the dot is not to blame

well, there isn’t I think

What happens when you try?

i typed my question wrong it was meant to have a comma ive worked it out anyway

./\,file should work in worst case

Whats the main lenny repository? All I have are the ones from security.debian.org

I tried debian etch before but my dvd-rw drive did not work, i am too noob to fix it and it made my boot up time incredibly slow

noob

i am waiting now for a new dvd-rw drive or lenny to use a kernel version which allows me to use my nvidia graphics card sucky ubuntu for the time being.

Nothing wrong with ubuntu Except gnome And firefox etc

anything wrong with xserver-xorg-video-nv, for that matter?

its harder to perform a custom installation with ubuntu

!tell Sir_Sid about mirrors

peterS i need 3d rendering

people talk like using the proprietary vendor driver for nvidia graphics cards is actually _required_

and kde. and automatix. and bloat.

pipatron and no root user at install pipatron less secure and stable, lower quality of release and shorter release cycle

people also talk like going to college is _required_

automatix doesn’t have much to do with ubuntu though

indeed

vice versa is the problem

strange, I could solve my problem with Gnome, but according to the source it shouldn’t have crashed

Anyway, the right tool for the right job - if ubuntu sucks, then don’t use it I’m happy using it on my thinkpad, but I prefer debian on the servers

i love these linux commands locate ffs!

oh dear… can anyone tell me the reason why my next-track multimedia key doesn’t work, but my previous-track key works? …

its like you demand and the os provides it serves you

now try ‘man find’ and see if you love that too

xev and slap the key

or ‘man dd’

disk duplicate seen that one

data dump diskwrite/read is only a subset of dd’s capabilities

cool

I know… this was how I did setup all these multimedia keys… but nvm, I think I just have to restart the application which grabs the multimedia keys…

how can i change my terminal winow to customise it or make it col

is there anyone here who is skilled in perl scripting? If so, please PM me so we dont get off topic.

i mean black on white is cool but..

When is the feature freeze, kernel freeze for lenny and will lenny come with compiz fusion?

/join #perl maybe

read your .bashrc

what reasons could there be that my keyboard’s numlock led work, but the caps lock and scroll lock don’t light up? I’m relatively sure it’s a software problem

/etc/bash.bashrc that one ?

capslock is definitely a hardware problem.

meh

If you want to change the colours in the terminal, just point and click in the menus

or `grep -i color ${HOME}/.bashrc`

well i was thinking more of the translucent windows you see in the screen shots of elite linux systems

what menus?

no bootinfo…. thank you all.

look at his questions

that’s pseudo-transparency.

upgrading compiz metapackage doesn’t pull in the newer versions of dependencies

well, in some cases

what term is he using?

obviously a graphical one with, you know, fancy borders and stuff

so how can you be so damn sure that he even has a menu?

I’m not

“fancy borders and stuff” is WM-related, not term-related

Yeah

btw, do you know if tritium support xinerama reasonably well?

I know that, you know that, he doesn’t know that

Hi

are you talking about me roflcakes

yes. .bashrc has a little segment on how to get color

ok cool also one more thing gnome and kde are both window managers right ? what is x then

X is X.

they both sit on top of x so to speak

W

no, desktop environments. X11 is the graphical server.

I am running debian etch with 2.6.18-5-686 kernel in virtualbox http://virtualbox.org , and I keep getting this error

gnome and kde are like, ‘desktop environments’

ok cool

“Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying to access hardware directly”

a window manager is actually another part

Whats up with this ?

assuming that you’re using gnome with the defaults: Metacity is your paint job, gnome is your highway, and Xorg is your traffic signals.

its not harmful…but really annoying when I am un a text editor it will actually put that error into the editor

well put

metacity, fyi, is the default wm for gnome. and it stinks. fyi.

thanks for breaking it down in fun size pieces for me

that is his opinion. fyi.

So what’s the car?

I think metacity is great

You made a car analogy without the car…

why does it stink?

i know. that’s the beauty of it.

“You” are the car.

well how do i get the cool looking ones im gonna google

but seriously…my problem ?

, undesktop: ps aux.

k 1 sec

there is no car

heh

you want the list ?

? ps aux lists all processes, but what does it have to do with metacity?

Nothing its another problem Im having scroll up

shift+pgup

no, `ps aux|grep metacity` is what’s wrong with metacity

until you alt+ out

Pjj ram…right it does like that doesn’t it anyhow do you know how to fix my other problem ? “Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying to access hardware directly”

what WM then?

I say screw both of them windowmaker ftw

what’s your problem with that message?

ctrl+alt+1 is your friend

it wont stop popping up

!printk

i heard printk console is see docs for sysctl and set kernel.printk to 3 4 1 7 or so. You can also use ‘dmesg -n1′ command. If you want to know what those numbers mean, see the file Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt in your kernel sources.

Its really annoying

err, F1

you could unload whatever module is responsible for that thing (sounds like serial ports?)

it pops up every 5 seconds or so ahh I can just “Turn those off” in virtualbox also

…

oh that kernel runs in Virtualbox?

yeah…I said that before

If everything was that easy

maybe faulty hardware emulation

it doesn’t matter

are you asking what WM I use? IceWM. ’nuff said.

who needs serial ports now anyway ?

I do

not me

I use IceWM too, but it’s aging and also is SLOW

anyhow…I just instaleld sudo How do Iadd my user to the sudoers file Iread the man page…I still don’t get it what do I have to put in there

text

you know what I meat

oh, and sometimes it really misbehaves; i.e. I can’t run GIMP under IceWM, somehow it locks up

meant

geez. `su -c “visudo” `

that’s keyboard, not serial port. Don’t move your cursor in and out of vbox window, then it won’t appear so much.

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