uh no, data=journal ext3 is ineffective but data=order(default) and data=writeback is OK

could someone help me, please?

ahh. metadata only journaling be ordered

hmm, if a server is hanging due to something drainin all the memory, is there a way to get some kind of dump of some sorts when this occurs? It’s not actually crashing the box as such just providing no memory for any other services,i just wondered if there was a package that would be useful in getting information on the process responsible or osmething

aside from that, you still can’t be sure of secure deletion

warning: Setting locale failed. warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset) LC_ALL = (unset), why do i get that error message?

man locale

What are all the mechanisms in lenny/sid that load modules?

yeah i get that, oh well. 100% security is impossible, heh… eveyrtime i read about “x is a good method” i find some article saying “x has been broken” a few days/weeks later

I want to make sure my sound cards are loaded in the correct order, but the system is so opaque that I have no idea why some modules are being loaded. I see /etc/modules, there’s also /etc/modprobe.conf, but it’s generated by update-modules which is an obsolete program. Does this mean /etc/modprobe.conf is also obsolete? If not, what’s the replacement for update-modules Anyway, questions, but I see no documentation

hey, why has debian moved from exim to postfix? as default MTA

man modules; man modprobe.conf it hasn’t

it hasn’t.

/etc/modprobe.conf shouldn’t be there, as /etc/modprobe.d/* wil be ignored

oh

I read both man pages already what about modules.conf? should it exist? “No manual entry for modules.conf” where can I find a document that explains all the possible ways a module can be loaded on a Debian system?

how can I do remote desktop from windows machine to linux. I have vncserver installed on my debian machine.

what about it?

do you want to connect to an already running X session or start a new one?

I want to connect already running X session

then you don’t want vncserver, you want rfb are the boxes right next to each other?

how i can change charset? dpkg-reconfigure ?????

console or X?

console

consolechars iirc !consolechars charset dpkg I don’t like you anymore

I have krfb also installed on my linux machine.

never heard of it.. but sounds disgusting

I am doing windows remote desktop to that machine but its not connecting bI am doing windows remote desktop to that machine but its not connecting/b

realvnc.com if the machines are sitting right next to each other you would be better off with synergy !info rdp

dpkg-reconfigure locales tms? etc

How can I kill all programs using the sound device?

you need to start x0rfbserv or whatever the hell the K-crap is called on the linux host box then use the viewer from realvnc.com on windows

man fuser what kind of error do you get?

ok I am seeing that

I don’t get an error. The main problem I want to solve is that applications use snd-emu10k1 and not snd-intelsomething

hi ! i’m trying to install an etch on a asus mobo with SATA SIS968. I tried to load different sata modules during the install without succes, my disqk isn’t recognized. Now i’m looking for help, tips or any idea. Thanks

hi, whats a good graphical mail client in linux (running xfce), not thunderbird

using udev? blacklist it (/msg dpkg blacklist)

I am now using modconf to make sure the intel one isn’t being loaded, but it would be better if it were my second card. I think it’s already blacklisted.

does debian default 2.6.18 kernel package has options for iptables? iptables ready?

yes.

I killed the process, but it’s still “in use”.

rmmod

put it in compatabilty mode in the bios

ok, so how do i export the exising firewallrules, and import a new existing firewall?

i tried AHCI but without any success

!iptables

i guess iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about netfilter docs, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450

you are talking about ahci right ?

!alsa-checklist

/dev/dsp` work for root?

isn’t rmmod an alias for modprobe -r? -f* I missed /dev/mixer it’s ok now

i have 3 options in the bios : IDE - AHCI - RAID i’ve tried every options

whatever is in your bios that says compatable

realvnc.com viewer is not free?

mornin real is a bit crappier than tight

ok gonna look one more time

xtightvncviewer is very good, many compression options and such

modconf also calls “update-modules”. is there some tool that is not obsolete?

use alsaconf

i have some network devices (transparent bridges i believe) that work with windows but not debian. Are there any additional networking packages that i could install to try? The devices are http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-pla-14-e.htm If i first plug them into a windows box and then a Debian box then Debian can get a lease. If i do not plug them into doze first then Debian cannot get a lease.

alsaconf also calls update-modules and it doesn’t work it inserts a game port module

!doesn’t work

Look buddy, “doesn’t work” is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define ‘it’ and what it isn’t doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like “what’s the error message”.

instead of the sound driver

get a job

I was continuing a sentence, do you have some auto responder?

next timetry one line and many sentences finish your thought processes.

xtightvncviewer is not for windows? I want to do remote desktop from windows machine to linux machine

!enter

The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ‘,’, ‘. ‘, ‘;’, ‘…’, ‘—’, or ‘:’ instead.

^^ anyway… continue

i have looked one more time but there’s no “compatible” option, only DISABLE - IDE - AHCI - RAID. Have you got another idea ?

it works on both OSs apt-get install vncserver xtightvncviewer

so, imho, alsaconf is one big piece of crap.

on windows, you can run tight vnc server and run client on linux

it is

whats the sata controller? would have thought it would work set to ide ich9 or something?

I’m sorry ?

its based on a SIS968

from linux to windows I remote desktop working,

oh, sis

yup

alsaconf just works for the most people without any headaches

read /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/README.Debian.gz

right, for people that only have one device.

alsaconf unloads all snd modules, discovers your card, and loads the modules again.

yeah, IIRC, that document admits it

disable one soundcard in BIOS, if needed

what installer are you using?

that could be the problem

or just blacklist it, make sure you have no entry in /etc/modules

what month is this

net-install just downloaded 1 week ago

I did not see an option to disable it in my BIOS

ahh yes, next month hopefully I can get new ati drivers with AI glx

second device isnt a onboard-chip?

one device is onboard-chip the new device is PCI card.

hrm, the etch installer should hande ahci

when you plugin in the pci soundcard, on board should stop working automatically,no?

so it should be in BIOS, just look harder

i have set ahci in the bios, and during the debian install in expert mode i have added the ahci support, but it doesn’t work

!kmuto

For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/

^^ try the newest kernel he has

or just use a daily build of the netinstaller?

is there a debian package to fetch album art?

not really that I know of, I however know you can use Amarok to do this #amarok apt-get install amarok sqlite or mysql-server

Unfortunately, alsaconf can only detect one sound card and is generally a poorly written program.

thanks!

i’m not sure to understand what you mean … What do i have to do during the install ?

From the docs

hello folks, I have am emergency, well not quite that serious, BUT i was fiddling with a script to move all the avi’s in my photos folder, which was only 9, but i got it working and moved them all, then I accidentally deleted a few of the new files, without realising that mv MOVEs the original files over. Is tere any way to recover my rm’ed files ???

go to that link dpkg said and get one of those installers

hello

which file system are you using?

ext3 I believe

ok thanks will try this

you are fucked

damn that sucks

sorry to say, but only ext2 supports undelete because it doesn’t zero out the file inode

ok

anyway,you can try to manually scan the hw raw data for patter in file headers and footersmatching those of avi or whatever else format there are a few tools to do this, unfortunately i don’t kow the names of them

that sounds rather complex

not really just grepping kinda

ok.

maybe someone else can tell you more about data recovery i only deal with ntfs at work sorry

yeah. I have had to recover photos from ntfs before, with 90% success!

try to start at sleuth kit

is that a package?

yup, it’s in debian but it’s primitive

heh.

i forgot to wake up before the sun came up now i have to stay hungry all day long

fascinating

anyone used sleuth or autopsy before?

i tried them before, autopsy is a web frontend for sleuthkit, install them and play with it

yep im onto it…

as i say, it’s primitive, you will have to face a moderate learning curve…

how to install xserver-xgl ?? :] where can i find some how to ?

!xgl

it has been said that xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running. Ask me about “compiz” and “xgl-howto”, or see see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl

ati video card?

yeap

well you’re in luck wait a month or two and fglrx will support aiglx

yeap - i’ve heard that (v8.42.xx)

is ati going ot be the linux host gpu of choice?

but now how to do that ? (i want to have BERYL )

dunno

crap

beryl is dead when new ati drivers comeout

you need to use xgl

i think compiz-fusion is the way to go now

what u mean ?

just enable composite, and load up compiz-fusion not right now though you can try it with xgl but it will b slow as balls

yeap, i know, but don;t know how to install xserver-xgl ? :]

read what dpkg said

!xgl

from memory, xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running. Ask me about “compiz” and “xgl-howto”, or see see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl

!xgl-howto

xgl-howto is, like, xgl may or may not work on your system. Currently supports nVidia/ATI. http://battlehorse.homelinux.net/w/Wiki.jsp?page=Xgl

my god sleuth will take forever, ~150 gig hd, to find and recover a few avi’s …

s N t Y o L n Ee d

:/

the E and the e are supposed to be overstruck

hey man

mercenary rocks

wtf are you doing up at this time?

when the hell are they gonna come to the US hahaha I passed out at 9 last night

hrm, weird, the weasel isnt loading pages when i click on them

did you get a new pc yet?

rahul you mean the game?

woke up at 6 today, went for a jog, lifted a teeny bit, and had pancakes and eggs game? oh mercenary. no they’re a kickass band from denmark

no assweasel

heh

oh

assBADGER no, I’m trying to figure out how to get a core 2 duo with an AGP slot on the board

rahul theres a game called “mercenaries 2″ in which Caracas-Venezuela is destroyed.

i love the smell of soap I feel fresh

is that the new firefox rebranding assBADGER!!!!

and sparkly clean

yes

!firefox

~/.gtkrc-2.0 ; fixes the keybindings. see also firefox support, or ask me about iceweasel

does anyone know a repository with debianized fglrx 8.41 sources?

i like it

!iceweasel

i guess iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is currently different from the browser with the same name from GNU (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla) although it is possible that the two projects will join forces in the future. To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about why iceweasel.

its all the same

it’s assbadgers all the way down

except licensing of course !badger

i guess badger is bar baz quuz thump

!iceweasel

methinks iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is currently different from the browser with the same name from GNU (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla) although it is possible that the two projects will join forces in the future. To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about why iceweasel.

what

haha

!dpkgbot

about what. Also see msg the bot. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you.

how the hell do you view permissions in the XXX format with ls?

porn format?

man ls?

so you dont see the drwxrwxr-x i looked at that

hey, how can I see the amount of used space of /dev/st0, for example?

and you would see 755 etc

dh

do you not know what drwx—— means?

yes i know what permissions are

dh?

and i would much rather view them in a different format

so whats the reason behind listing them as the mode numbers

convert them in your head…

hmm. alias ls=’/path/to/script’

how to figure out which version of debian i have - AMD64 or i386 ? uhow to figure out which version of debian i have - AMD64 or i386 ?/u

uname -a

what did you install?

lol

if you’re asking, it’s probably not debian, anyway.

!dh

i have kubuntu, but trying to help my friend who has debian (noob?!) and want to isntall BERYL on ATI

no? ok er.. df

uname -a should tell you

fucking typo

thx

df

tape drives aren’t file systems

at least which kernel and that will inform you

combinio! you suck and you know it!

what does ? wait what

if you use kubuntu, g0 kubuntu channel !

oh c’mon ;P

oh st0

no that way!

see, I told you he doesn’t have debian

it’s easy! /join #kubuntu

who?

troll.

the question is what is moor noobish using kubuntu well or being new to debian?

im on xp

lol

me too

how did you know

I’m on XP and debian.

yeh im on ubuntu

heh

what is XP?

why am I using kubuntu I swear to god I know cuz i had this damn cd laying around and i didn’t wannawait to downoad debian

im on debian and ccm 4.1… err windows server well virtually anyway

Same thing as XD but with the tongue hanging out

it takes about 5 minutes to download debian

a strange backwards thing that runs one or two apps you can’t live without and don’t work in WINE

thats too long man

damn I think it will work! Thanks so far people, sleuth and autopsy are good!

pff that’s what she said.

man I am so bored heh

foutrelis ooo thanx very much

np, $300

which is better, longer or bigger?

hmmm

who can say..who can say. ahhh boy

by cash?

depends if you are talking sex or penisses

I want to buy Vista and I’ve only gathered $3500. Need some more

im going to play a seriously psycroptic/necrophagist sounding Super Mario World death metal theme

lol

just need a drummer

!!!!!!!!1

i play drums

ok lets go to #music

how many cymbals?

lol

$3500 makes for three 3560 switches

3500$ gets me a really BIG bag ehehe

HEH.

erm.. 1.. 2.. 345… 6.. can i count hi hats as two? 2 crash china ride hats splash

please in #music too much offtopic makes #debian a dull channel so then.. word

no you can’t count hi hats as two, haha. but sounds good.

drugs are overrated. just make a huge bgp lab to get ‘high’.

*burp*

any idea how to undelet now I have located the inode numbers of rm’ed files? nvm i think i found how yeah just now i rm’ed some movies of my cute kid, and i want them back

regarding my sata problem it has been resolved using a backport netinst. Thank you bregarding my sata problem it has been resolved using a backport netinst. Thank you/b

sleuth kit and its http frontend are working a treat though! *phew

nice

is it safe to use in production ?

gnome-baker doesnt notice *.iso files for some reason

its an etch install, but with latest stable kernel. as long as you keep the kernel updated with security alerts, should be fine

i do the most simple ting rightclick on the iso open with gnome-baker nothing happens

ok great . thanks for your time and your help !

i use open project but that wont notice the .iso

you’re welcome

ho;ly fuck I’m glad to get these movies back, that kid is cute!

i wish i could get my movies/pictures back but the drive makes clicking sounds

excuse language.. I must shoot more movie of him, anyone got spare dollars for good camera let me know uexcuse language.. I must shoot more movie of him, anyone got spare dollars for good camera let me know/u I hear freezers are good for dead drives

hopefully i can fix it when i return in like 8 months from now

makes parts shrink up and spin for a little while are you in iraq now?

indeed been since feb

wow. scary.. in the marines?

fuck no

I’m sorry

army of course.

oh right

isn’t there a “burn image” option (i know i’ve used gnomebaker to burn ISOs)

it rocks actually. the experience here in 15 months is comparible to 2-3 years in a normal NOC since i work 12-16 hours a day 7 days a week

well good luck over there, keep safe, I don’t think we should have gone there in the first place bu I don’t blanme you

only import and open project

thanks. im a ‘fobbit’ so its all good.

I good friend of mine from HS served 2 tours in Afghanistan and one in Iraq and hated all of it.. of course he was a Marine

found it

haha. he prolly got shot out and the like.

im sorry, but im australian, whats the difference between marine and army?

i sit in the noc playing with various cisco devices all shift.

wikipedia

why do you think this is an on-topic question here?

about 40 IQ points

what do you recall about it? im on falcon its fucking horse shit. muddy as fuck

a lot of it went ‘bang’ one night

hey

oh sorry

can someone say whats wrong with my dhcp server?

thats bs. the ASP was on the other side of base.

wait ill paste that log…

it’s software.

I saw a video taking from some considerable distance

this is OT here

*taken

My friend was Marine Recon.. so yeah he probably got shot at alot.

80% of the things here are ot.

that doesn’t mean you should add to it !ot

[ot] Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support), or return to the topic after a short while. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions between regulars b[ot] Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support), or return to the topic after a short while. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions between regulars/b

you’re in it

but it would be idle most of the time.

“No subnet declaration for eth0, please write declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment to which interface eth0 is attached”

anyway… still looking for a fglrx 8.41 debianized source package

which version is in etch ?

updated your dhcpd.conf with the network information on which you wish dhcpd to issue addresses from (ie. define a pool)

8.38

http://paste.debian.net/36996

im wondering when they are going to start releasing weekly updates of testing again for debian-cd

anyone has idea why i’m getting that error?

I agree that things should stay onTopic, #ubuntu is no help at all, you guys are priceless.

may 27 is getting older and older every day…

tictac i have configured that file already

iirc i installed locales pkg, or did a dpkg-reconfigure locales

but i dont know whats wrong

ask #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net

ok, i’ll try that..

locales is definately the problem

i see. i’m installing it..

and the version in sid ?

hmm. will do.

3 AM) plb:

admittedly .. it really doesn’t matter .. you could use an etch netinst and upgrade i asked about etch first

oh oops 8.38

my current position in the world prohibits me from downloading packages endlessly :-\

ah .. 8.40 for amd64 in sid .. 8.38 fro the rest

i was going to purchase them and have them sent weekly

yeah I found that odd

could be a few reasons for that

witam

8.40 to 8.41 is supposedly a big change… not sure why 8.39 or 8.40 haven’t been included for i386 yet

potrzebuje pomocy

!english

coloUr , or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!!

OK, sorry

you could ask the maintainer .. i see a BTS entry, but no response

hrm, that’s an interesting factoid….

!rude

rude is probably making me tell people things that they dont want to be told urude is probably making me tell people things that they dont want to be told/u

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1938/78457777eg4.jpg meow

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=fglrx-driver;dist=unstable .. maybe somethign else is related

lol

-.^

hello everybody

ahh 8.41 is for the HD 2000 series only…

hi there, I would like to reinstall a complete system to another partition, and I dont want to use installation disks, because the machine is up and runnin. is there a convenient method to use? something with chroot maybe?

debootstrap man debootstrap

thank you I’ll check it

np

actually my problem is that I’m still using kernel 2.4 with sarge on that machine. and after putting kernel 2.6 to that machine, apache2 doesnt start, hangs when apachectl tries to start apache

any errors in syslog?

and anyways its kinda mess, it would be nicer to install a clean etch on it no errors :~

heh.

no errors, it seems to ‘hang’

any apache errors?

nope I didnt find any

_gAri-: uninstall apache .. upgrade to etch .. reinstall apache ?

its possible, but the main problem is that apache should run no logic solution for this issue port 80 is open, but nothing served on it I traced the only apache process that was running (apachectl still running also), it was waiting at read80( or something like this

how can I give a user access to start a server up on port 80 without them being root?

ampex, either with sudo or with chmod +s binary

so, there is no way to run squid for instance on port 80 without it effectively running as root and having access to the entire filesystem?

ampex, but in both cases, the binary will run as root and in the case that you cant trust your user, forget it. if your user starts squid via sudo or similar, thats ok. as long as your user isnt able to do a sudo mypersonalwritablescript it will be safe

how would I configure sudo to allow the squid user to only run squid as root

/etc/sudoers

visudo damnit!

ampex, in this case your user is able to call sudo squid without parameters

would I be able to kill it?

sudo does not really care.

sudo squid -rootshell or similar wont work. thats a nice feature of sudo. you can explizit tell the sudo wrapper of what is allowed and what not

certainly it makes no difference to sudo, if there’s no syntax errors

and unfortunately you tell it with globs instead of regexps leading to fun config lines like CHAT_RESTARTERS ALL=(chat) /etc/init.d/inetchat, /etc/init.d/inetchat [a-z]*, !/etc/init.d/inetchat console

hi e1, does anyone use jackd ?

who’s e1?

everyone ^^ I’m a very lazy person

!anyone

polls

jelly, thats a hack…

and still you expect others to be less lazy and give you answers?

yes ….

no, it’s dumb syntax

well my question is, I can’t use realtime as a user and forgot how to do so

it possibly has to do with /etc/security/limits.conf and rtprio that should give you enough keywords for a google search

yep thx

hi

Are there boot cd/dvds for lenny?

how do I force apt to re-retrieve the repositories? on my other box I run apt-get update and have a lot of “Ign” messages plus it happens way too fast

ampex, http://rafb.net/p/l5JMYo81.html i think that should make it clear

!tell fqh about root

ahh !tell ebw about root

has anybody played quake wars? i only get 21 fps on my nvidia with wine…

!tell ebw about root !help

hello

what’s the filesystem heirarchy thing for linux systems called? in order to standardise?

try asking your question

anyone knows how can i install the latest sun jvm on debian sarge?

!pastebin

Please don’t paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. — Also ask me: pastebin pipe

ktne, its in non-free adjust your sources.list

There is none, just playing with dpkg.

abrotman, i don’t know what that means

try /msg dpkg then

?

ok

how did i get dragge din ?

Is LVM complicated?

cause you’re special

short bus here i come!

hi after reading some pages on the debian main site it’s still not quite clear to me what are my options for installing a 64bit Debian that can run 32bit applications and how different those options from the way Gentoo treats 64bit+32bit userlands

could anyone give me a starting point for changing my crypted LVM passphrase?

hi all

man cryptsetup

does “adding” a key mean there will be two keys?

use addkey then delete key

one of my workers managed to do something wrong when updating debian last time he got asked some questions, and he chose the wrong one

fire him!

I am not even sure what was updated this was a dist-upgrade

so whats the problem now

now he can’t manage to login to the server other than in single.mode

and aptitude logs everything

can you see the machine’s video output?

I can’t, but I have a guy there that can he manages to login in single-user mode

as root?

yeah

so… does it boot to full mode or not?

full mode? it boots in single user mode

stop telling us what does work and tell us what doesn’t

I just said

… no, you didn’t

you can’t login to the box locally by just booting it, and you can’t login through SSH

you said what does work

 

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why can’t you login? is the root password somehow different in full mode? is it not finishing booting?

now he can’t manage to login to the server other than in single.mode

it’s not prompting for a user/pass at all

is ssh running? okay, so why not?

yes exactly why not

look at the screen? how far does it get?

it doesn’t say and I’m not there

so the screen is completely blank?

what I’m guessing is that he altered the auth system to something else so it’s not using regular authentication

if you don’t even see the login prompt and ssh isn’t running, it doesn’t sound like it is booted

check inittab

it sounds like it is not completing the boot sequence

do you know what singlemode IS? it is booting allright

yes, why do we keep talking about singlemode?

how can i check the crontab and see what is exactly going to be running for some reason i have something in /etc/crontab and it isn’t running

some tard was talking about disabling getty’s here the other day

vader–: crontab -l

i have this

vader–: but that’s different to /etc/crontab, which is a file you can open and look at

/dev/null 2&1

but it isn’t runnin

according to http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=snd-emu10k1.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=stable&arch=any installing linux-image-2.6.18-5-486 should result in a file /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko … but this files doesn’t exist on my system….. what am I doing wrong?

vader–: maybe you should pipe output to /dev/null only after you have it working

I am trying public key authentication in SSH, but the it aint working, i suspect it is file permission problem, can any one help me?

so when i edit the crontab should i run crontab -e or do a vi /etc/crontab?

vader–: until then it will email you the output

he gets a prompt for username types root

vader–: crontab -e

and then gets a message that it can’t find cert that’s how far he gets

hmmm

maybe just rm .ssh/authorized_keys and start from the beginning using ssh-copy-id, thats about as fast as checking the logs then fixing perms

ssh-copy-id ?

there’s a program for that? wow I’ve always done it the hard way I wonder what you’re using for authentication I’ve always used the standard unix one if you can figure out what package was configured wrong you can dpkg-reconfigure packagename

sounds like pam goodness

yeah, it does sound like pam

am actually on a windows platform, i wonder how i go about with that

Is there a way in korganizer to specify time zones for certain meetings…

maybe see what pam packages you can find in the installed packages list, and then see what depends on em, and run rpkg-reconfigure on various ones? I know it’s a stab in the dark…

poor guy D:

my ~/.ssh is drwx—— and my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is -rw——-

thanks for the help

thanks and what about your home?

authorized_keys is -rw-r–r- for me

as long as root can get in to your home that should work

id_dsa should be -rw——, obviously

i suppose there is no need for an id_dsa as i am only authenticating into using authorized keys

mine’s the unparanoid default, drwxr-xr-x

thanks, will try again.

/upgrade in irssi is awesome

yes, you only need private keys at starting points. you can use agent forwarding most of the rest of the time

aptitude logs everything where?

/var/log/aptitude

hm

assuming you were using aptitude

then it doesn’t log everything there default it seems

thanks, do you know where the secure logs are in debian?

he was using apt-get dist-upgrade or something

blj /var/log/

um… do you mean /var/log/auth.log ? not sure what you mean by “secure” then that’s not aptitude

yes the authorisation log , thanks for hte help will check it

why would stuff in the crontab that is set to run every 5 minutes not run

then does apt-get log anything by default?

I’m not sure if that’s where sshd complains to… try syslog and messages and daemon.log I can never remember which is which vader–: have you unsilenced the output yet?

this is what is in there */5 * * * * cactiuser /usr/bin/php /usr/share/cacti/site/poller.php /dev/null 2/var/log/cacti/poller-error.log

/dev/null 2&1

thanks, am trying on debug mode anyway.

vader–: if you want to know what is going wrong *don’t silence the output*

vader–: ntpdate dude

i get /bin/sh: cactiuser: command not found

vader–: yeah, why do you have that in there?

because the damn thing wasn’t syncing time

vader–: and use ntpd instead of crontabbing ntpdate, its preferable

vader–: is this /etc/crontab or crontab -l ?

crontab -l

vader–: what are those user names? vader–: they are not part of a command vader–: and unsilence that output until you are finished I mean, honestly.

thats who i want the command to run a as

vader–: well, user crontabs don’t work that way vader–: they run as the person who typed ‘crontab -e’

gotcha

crontab -e -u username

vader–: while /etc/crontab is a system tab yeah or that

i had it in /etc/crontab but that wasn’t working either

/dev/null 2&1

ya

vader–: that says “don’t ever email me about problems ever”

i took that out

you can put it back later if it outputs anything annoying good cron commands don’t output anything unless there’s a problem and then they do

cool thanks for the help

hmm? cron emails by default..

does it matter if the sshd_config has ServerKeyBits as 768 and my authenticating keys has 1024 bits?

yes, I’m talking about the habit of people piping to devnull all the time in crontabs most good unix commands output nothing if they are working, so cron would only email you in the event of a problem (the ideal situation)

what is a good newb-friendly GUI email client without the overabundance of features found in thunderbird/opera/outlook?

thunderbird is pretty simple what would you take out of it?

eudora?

sparrw, claws-mail

not so sure about that, but ok

petemc, but i had no luck with claws-mail and debian.. iirc it was only in experimental branch petemc, sorry i meant sparrw

aiight

extensions, theming, filters, javascript, labels, layouts

none of those actually affect you unless you specifically invoke them

82.211.59.90 oh, wrong paste ^^ how can i test my ram in a running system?

do stuff.

hmmm

they take up memory, and menu space, and disk space, and toolbar space, and widget space

crontab still isn’t running

oh noes disk space

i have debian installed on machines with spare storage measured in kilobytes. so yes, “oh noes disk space”

you’re going to have trouble storing the mail then

only if i try to store it :-p

I just think Thunderbird’s interface is pretty sparse compared to MS’s

oh, i agree

takes about an hour to go through all outlook’s stupid options and I still can’t bottom-post whereas thunderbird takes about 90 seconds

this is for someone who needs 2 buttons. reply and delete

hehe

and delete is optional

well, I do work with people for whom two sentences of text instead of one on a form, will confuse them for upwards of 5 minutes

sounds like some of my users

hi hi folks I just installed a library from a debian package and it put this file libblah.so.1.3.4 into /usr/lib

as ya do

and apparently i need a symlink like libblah.so to make it work what is going on here and why doesn’t it do it automatically?

the program that needs the symlink is what? is it another debian package?

hi, i need a database client that connects to an oracle database and can execute query’s on it, and give baclk results to the user, any suggestions

any best sHe[15] is a spam bot? heh

ld for a start

your third party binary application is somewhat badly compiled, that’s why

???

pastebin ldd -v binary_which_uses_libblah, might provide clues

what can I do to make dm-crypt not prompt me for a passphrase on boot?

the .so link is shipped in libblah*-dev package

remove the entry from /etc/crypttab

I don’t have one my root partition is crypted

hi

thought I’d try the option in the debian installer

you really don’t have a crypttab? even in the initrd? but anyway…with encrypted root you’ll have to input the passphrase some other way. which is up to your imagination i used an openpgp cryptocard to good success

i’m trying to enable radius auth by mac address using the debian freeradius package. i keep getting the error that clear text password is not available. obviously i’ve misconfigured something but there’s not a lot of examples for what i’m trying to do

well I set it to “” in the hope that would suppress it

the passphrase?

but it still needs me to hit enter on boot yes

bwah

use a keyscript

booting to single-user mode and running dpkg-reconfigure -a resulted in the keyboard not working anymore

is my initrd mounted now?

grrr

ok that’s interesting

ouch. usb keyboard?

no, ps2

uh…no, its a cpio

right. I just wanted to do this for the learning experience. Now I’m kind of tired of it. and I don’t know about initrd, or keyscripts, or anything like that

lol

http://paste.debian.net/37005

ahh, ok then. go back to unencrypted / then

is that the easiest way to get rid of the prompt?

please ignore line 1 of my paste..

you could edit ./scripts/local-top/cryptroot in initrd, not sure what the correct way to do that is aside from that…just don’t reboot 5, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.04,

is there a way to see what files were deleted recently? or would i have needed an IDS

so… do I unzip the initrd, make changes, zip it up again?

not that i know of

i think that snort/aide would keep logs like that

dunno. its autogenerated AFAIK so making changes to it directly could be pointless if they get reset next time its regenerated and its not zipped

right. full install again?

umm

i would, encrypting / is fairly pointless

i thought the whole point of odt was that it’s NOT a memory dump like MS formats…

no need to encrypt /bin, /sbin, /usr…etc..

it’s not, it’s a zip file

i disagree

ah that makes more sense

most of it is XML, but not the PNG files and whatnot as that would be really inefficient

oh, why bother encrypting a bunch of files you can grab off a mirror? and that everyone [your isp, the mirror, everyone along the way] knows you’ve grabbed

since apps can leave temp files oh - heh - i missed the convo

well, notice i didn’t list /home, /var or /tmp

storing png as text can be almost-efficient if the text is utf8

well, I was just trying a different option in the installer

i though you meant encrypted file systems

if it’s left me with a totally obnoxious system

actually that would be nice… a new version of ‘base64′ encoding that’s for utf-8 text instead

then I guess I’ll reinstall the whole thing

i just walked in

and makes use of all the characters available

I’m just kind of surprised there’s no half-measures

its probably easier, use LVM though , and if you want to encrypt things i’d only go as far as /var and /home, and put /tmp on tmpfs then you can just edit /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks.functions and /etc/cryptab when you want to do custom things

why would you only encrypt /var and /home?

why would you encrypt more?

because that’s where people’s data is

why not all (except boot of course)

why bother with /usr? that’s all files from debian.org

because you have a performance hit

note that tmpfs can get swapped out

it also makes things more difficult, say recovering your system to a bootable state

maybe its just a personal pref to encrypt everything. thats what backups are for

encrypting everything is good if you want to prevent an attacker from tampering with the file contents encrypting everything is good if you want to prevent an attacker from tampering with the file contents bencrypting everything is good if you want to prevent an attacker from tampering with the file contents/b e.g. putting a trojan in your programs

they can still do that. /boot and the initrd are unencrypted

encrypting their trojan won’t change a thing

rahul, they don’t have the symmetric key to encrypt it with

but you do and you’ll encrypt it and write it

if you were to put a rootkit anywhere it would be directly into the kernel

what, so they take the system offline, physically access the disk and install the trojans, and then boot the system back up without you noticing?

rahul, no i won’t

seems pretty unlikely

then you wouldn’t do that on an unencrypted FS

cast, in an ideal fully-encrypted system the kernel is encrypted too

what package can I reconfigure in debian to change the authentication system?

you could always have /boot on a seperate volume (thumbdrive for instance) which is, hopefully, on you at all times.

cast, Dewi.. got the public key authentication working. the problem was the file format of the public key PuttyGen generated and the one that sshd expected are different. thanks anyway.

and the crypto is done in volatile hardware that’s destroyed under tampering

oh. yes. that’s why it has that export mode. didn’t think of that. dunno why it doesn’t use the normal format to begin with

apparently ssh 2 has a standard format which sshd does not follow and still uses ssh 1 standard

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good call, PriceChild (no, I didn’t do the kline)

any of the console packages ?

any best sHe[15] is a spam bot? heh - heh!

mooo moo mooo

in English, please….

any suggestions which CA software packages are good? an API would be a plus

CA?

Computer Associates? Certificate Authority? Canada? Catalan? California?

chartered accounting?

computer associates had an app called jxplorer that is ok any standard LDAP API will work w/ it there is your answer

canada has a company called Corel that produces WordPerfect - I hear it is ok

ewww SCO

hehe

the Comedian Answerers, you mean?

yes

heh

that too

or Comic A**holes

hehe

aahh i remembered! mplayer -msglevel all=-1 porn & wasn’t working, nohup mplayer -msglevel all=-1 porn & did what i wanted

don’t forget to use -softvol that way you can mute the crappy music and play something good

its not really porn, someone just sent me porn.gpg to hide what it really was D:

or -nosound

morning all

i have come to like CACHEDIR.TAG and tar –exclude-caches

0am working on my linux 0am now and im just finished my 1st coffee and ok here goes it…i have hard drives in my linux box hda=/, hdb=swap, hdc=/home and hdd=/storage….i was trying all night to get my ide cdrom working on a sata port on my mb with this ide-sata converter anyone want to help me get it going?

ide-sata converter sounds like trouble

1 min phone

certificate authority

so SSL or TLS?

nah, why bother :p

you want to setup a CA right?

yes

install openssl

TLS or SSL both work with openssl certs, so..

/usr/local/ssl/misc/CA.pl -newca

* note that that CA script has some values you might want to change

you know how to sign certs? create them and sign them

i wrote my own CA in perl, so yah. i just want something that has features like revokation lists and, if possible, an XMLRPC api

back

openssl ca -policy some_policy -out foo.crt -infiles foo.csr ah ok why not go w/ openssl’s stuff?

its scriptability sucks, imo and as i need xmlrpc anyway, i thought i could just dump my stuff and go for off-the-web stuff

ide-sata converter sounds like trouble” well believe it or not i think im just one command away from it working….ex: in my bios there is a “sata enable/disabled and “sata rom boot” when i enable “sata rom boot” the debian installer actually makes it pretty far…upto a point where it says load cdrom-drivers

and i tried with other distros to…and they get part way

CA.pl is at /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl btw

so the dvd/cd-rom is working at beginning i think it just gets a wierd drive letter and it dont know where the cdrom is to mount or maybe i need to load a module that im overlooking so does anyone want to help me get this working cause i have no dvd/cd-rom and that computer and it would be nice to have one in it so does anyone want to help me get this working cause i have no dvd/cd-rom and that computer and it would be nice to have one in it http://www.abit-usa.com/technology/serillel_new.php i dont know if i have the version 1 or 2 im pretty sure i have that version 2 cause mine looks exactly like that picture

is Conceptronic C480i5 USB suported by debian ?

ok i dont even want to boot from the dvd/cd-rom anymore as i already have debian installed…but i sure would like to be able to add a cdrom to that box so i turned off the sata rom boot just left sata enabled

4 oops

thanks for you advice matey. I’ve got it sust now.

Conceptronic sounds interesting

Hi… Can somebody help with my /etc/profile… is not creating session var.. I read at some “foro” and looks like Im doing everthing fine

brb have to go into bios and adjust sata setting

abrotman, are u there?

ahci? the debian installer bug that doesn’t create devices in the same fashion as the actual booting machine kills the ability to setup a SATA RAID array spanning multiple controllers, what a pain. and adding devices from the new controller to a RAID 5 array afterwards is dreadfully slow

?

abrotman, hi…

did you export it ?

yes.. and restart session… Any Idea, what else should I look? abrotman, u mena, export from inside (/etc/profile) right?

yes

yes, I did it

paste it somewhere

it`s Xara graphics software for free?

you should ask ronin!

abrotman, paste to u?

no !paste

Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.

(”merge lines”)?, abrotman

just paste it

merge lines of files

no http://channels.debian.net/paste/ paste it there

http://pastebin.ca/695892 = my lspic and lsmod

abrotman, ?

and now we’ve gone off the deep end we need to see the item that you’re trying to set/export …

i just want to get my cdrom/dvdrom working with that ide-sata adapter….has anyone ever tried to get it working in debian

and i’m about to go get food

btw i seen a sticker on the adapter and it is this exact one http://www.abit-usa.com/technology/serillel_new.php

/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp –dport 22 -j ACCEPT whats wrong? i cant access my server from LAN

ohh.. just JAVA_HOME… JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/jvm/sun-…./bin/ \ export JAVA_HOME … that’s it abrotman

you’re appending to the chain, maybe another rule catches it beforehand in that chain

propably

abrotman, Im gonna try a couple of things that I just read. abrotman, cya in a bit. abrotman, hi abrotman, no… didnt work. abrotman,… are u there?

i don’t remember the exactly package to install 32libraries for 64 bit system… what is it?

hi

!libs32 i don’t remember the exactly package to install 32libraries for 64 bit system… what is it?

ia32-libs

how can I increase screen resolution?

hi all, someone can tell me the name of the package who receive the login and password in the X interceface ?

in the debian kernel do i need to enable an option for it to boot my dvd/cd-rom using the ide-sata adapter

it doesn’t work like that

im using the default 2.6.22-2-486 in sid

i cant load an app… where can i look for logs related to it? syslog shows me nothing

/var/log you mean like gdm/kdm/xdm ?

does anyone know howto search in a directory over each file and change a certain word to another word?

xrandr -s

jetscreamer, my problem is, i upgraded an debian, and now I log in like root in the X, and when I stop the session, the machine frozen.

does it hang as $USER ?

Ronin, The owner of this machine likes to use the machine like root. But he just compile fortran softwares.

if he likes to use root let him fix it

heh that’s what i was thinking cast

i attached the drive while the system was on here is the dmesg when i attached it http://pastebin.ca/695933

If I have an IP address such as 10.3.2.50 and I want to change it to 10.3.2.150 programmatically using bash, how would I go about doing so?

okay so when rtorrent under lenny finishes a torrent, i get “junk at end of input” and it crashes. i can restart it and it runs okay, but when the next torrent finishes, it crashes again. since i consistently run as many as 80 torrents, this is something of a problem. where to look?

my sata rom boot in bios is not enabled currently

sed -i ’s/foo/bar/g’ * or some such

ifconfig

I just want to change the text

querybts, part of the reportbug[s?] pkg

read in an IP address from a file and write it out in a modified way by adding a 1 before the last octet

part of the debian bug tracking system, or the rtorrent one?

ask in bash, though sed, perl or awk may all have answers too i mean to say, check the bts as in bug tracker

cast i understand where you’re pointing me to. i’m asking which one you’re referring to (thinking that you already know of a specific bug report i should find)

BTS, debian

ok i generally prefer the web interface which is why i asked

reportbug is the package name, BTW, cast

ahh, roger i wasn’t refering to any specific bug, thats just where to look for such problems

MM anyone have idea to download debian in one DVD ?¿ 6 5 4 3 2 1

you don’t need all of them, you can d/l just the netinst and do the rest via net

Go!

stop that

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thank you Tomasu er tomaw sorry bad tab completion

qiuck draw tomaw!

w00t

\o/ you’d never think soo many people were that hasty when tab completing ;D

hehe

crazy russians http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6990802.stm why can’t we have a sex holiday?

hi guys

oh, right. that’s new year’s.

hmm, i’m getting a strange error i’ve just upgraded to xorg 7.3 and iceweasel started to crash on some pages

don’t you know better than to talk to strange errors

http://pastebin.ca/695968 like this

7.3 is in the repos?

in experimental

then dont ask for help here

but the strange thing is that it doesn’t crash when i run it as

as

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/iceweasel/ /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin

maybe an nspr issue at least, nspr may be using features that you disabled when upgrading the X server.

I have many servers and many developer using the root’s user by dsa_key (I found this panoram) dropping in it a lot of temporary files.

146, base event: 95, base error: 169)

do you mean to say how many users login as root with PKI?

it’s not strange that it crashes; i would expect it from experimental but why the other way works?

try removing libnspr4-0d

uh, wait, i read something totally different. my bad.

ug, assbadger deps on it

cast, no. I don’t want them to log in as root but user and nobody has root’s access excepts admnistrator

rahul, a LOT of thins depend on it

!penixstrike nspr

A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking nspr to the ground and leaving a large wet spot.

well, you must have disabled something… why don’t you have x input in your X server?

? i didn’t i just upgraded all xorg packages

then why don’t you have it? xdpyinfo -queryExtensions and look for which extension has ID 147 erm 146

any thoughts on lvm snapshots slowing down disk io?

MIT-SHM (opcode: 146, base event: 94, base error: 170) ?

Hey I have apache running good and works on computers on my network but I want to be able to have it work on the internet how can I do that? I have already tried forwarding ports and not sure what to do

so i’m trying to do a source compile of the latest versions of rtorrent and libtorrent, since the upstream source versions are newer than the versions in lenny. i’m getting a compile error that sigc++-2.0 is not installed … but according to apt, they are, and the files are in /usr/bin. how do i get ./configure to see it?

you need the -dev package of them

ty

strange MIT-SHM (opcode: 145, base event: 94, base error: 168) you probably need to recompile … some … stuff … to get it to work again

145, base error: 169) now it’s getting creepy rahul, do you have any idea why running firefox-bin directly works?

shrug… I think there’s a different libnspr in lib/iceweasel that could be the difference pardon. must listen to project hate mcmxcix \m/ Ó \m/

I need a package from lenny in my etch installation - if it doesn’t have many dependancies in lenny I guess it should all work out right? Whats the easy way of adding it to sources.list

browneye?

backports is teh safest way

hello, can anyone tell me the prescribed method for changing libapache2-mod-php4 to php5 without uninstalling anything that depends on it?

specifically, http://packages.debian.org/source/puppet is the lenny package I’d like

just install it

s/prescribed/recommended/

do you mean backports.org?

yes

what does that do to the apache config? since apache can only have one mod php?

cool, never tried it.

install all the php5 stuff

ok i will give it a try, now that I think about it, since apache2 uses separate files it should just work.. thanks

it does, i had both installed for ages

Im trying to install compiz-kde with apt-get but it gives me this error: ¨compiz-kde: Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig but it is not installable¨ how can I fix this?

this is way cool: Package libapache2-mod-php4 is to be removed. looks like they really tested this

hrm, it’s not there it seems (this is for etch not sarge)

i should have just trusted the debian developers…

can anyone point me to a mode text browser that supports http authentication?

if your running etch, yeah, you generally can

w3m

yep off to double check that nothing broke..

and backports.org is set up for etch

thanks

right, puppet is just not there.

was about to say assuming of course its been backported

no worries

Im trying to install compiz-kde with apt-get but it gives me this error: ¨compiz-kde: Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig but it is not installable¨ how can I fix this?

which version of debian ?

I have a shell program that pops up a octave plot window once in a while and it gets in my way .. how do I make the window pop up in the workspace of the shell window and not the one that I am viewing at the moment? Im using GNOME

say how do i get apt-get to install dependencies automaticlly to a package i am trying to install?

it does that automatically it cant install a package without its dependencies being fulfilled

you might be able to configure your window manager to recognize the pop up window and place it on the right workspace sawfish and maybe the KDE wm can do that

yeh .. thats what I was hoping for … so the default wm for GNOME cant handle that?

I’m not sure what the default WM for GNOME is…

it only gives me an error that i need those dependencies

check devilspie

hmm .. what is the error you get? (paste here if it is not to big, else use a paste bot, see topic for the channel) thanks .. will check that out

something wrong with the multimedia repositories?

!paste

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http://paste.debian.net/37020 broken pack argh

Does anybody knows why compiz-kde needs the package ¨libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig¨ ?? The problem is that this package can not be found by apt-get so I can not install compiz-kde.. Who can help me to fix this?

done a apt-get update recently?

apt-get is just reporting the the dependencies are not available from the repositories it has in /etc/apt/sources.list or not installable rather.

apt-get has an annoying habit of completely losing its marbles if it gets an error part way through an install…if the initial state of packages is broken, apt-get refuses to automatically resolve anything unless you use ‘-f install’ with no packages and usually apt-get’s solution is to remove everything that seems broken (which sometimes includes all GNOME or KDE packages) aptitude has a really nice interactive dependency resolver

does anyone have better documentation than in apt_preferences(5) for pin types? ie. you see a=unstable as a pin, but can you specify by nickname, ie. a=sid?

wow, GNOME completely fails to start on an 8-bit display

ain’t progress wonderful?

Is Sawfish the default GNOME window manager or have I just got a borked configuration?

borked

where might I find the borkage? update-alternatives says Enlightenment is x-window-manager, of all things

is Sawfish default for a fresh user? if not, probably in the borked user’s Gnome Session settings

trying that now (although I can’t find a gnome session setting for WM choice)

ps. lol @ borkage look at the running apps in the session (in one of the tabs there) ie. i have a ‘metacity’ program running in the Current Session list which is the default wm

I’m trying to install grub - I’m chrooted into my environment from a livecd. if I try grub-install hd0, I get could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device

is there a repository with the beta releases for KDE4 ?

The sessions tab lists /usr/bin/sawfish, but I already knew that…

i’m searching google but no luck

the trick is to figure out how it got set that way

did you try a fresh user??

I’ve tried root and my own ID, trying a new user now Hmmm…could be because metacity is not installed on the machine

hahaha

does anyone here knows where to get kde4 repos for debian ?

iirc, kde themselves host up some

Cheapest gallery?