I wouldn’t give random people SSH access access if I didn’t even know how to..

yes

${HOME}/.bashrc`

It seems GNOME 2.20 really tries to display tooltips as quickly as possible; how can I delay the time it takes before they show up? It’s actually pretty annoying, because it covers up the text on the main menu all the time.

I’m up-to-date on sid and I don’t see tooltips appearing unusually quickly

i’m running lenny, and currently have the 2.6.21 kernel. my wireless usb thing needs 2.6.22, which i believe is in sid. how can i install that kernel without apt wanting to upgrade all my other packages to sid?

Keep in mind that there’s a delay before a tooltip *initially* appears, but once it’s displayed, moving the mouse to related items (like other lines on a menu) causes their tips to appear much more quickly If you move your mouse away from the menu (or whatever) for a few seconds, the timer starts over again and there’ll be a longer delay before another one appears

yeah, I’ve noticed that; it does seem to be quicker though — I guess that’s just me

you have wireless usb?

Applications have control over tooltip delays, so it could be just the app

i have a usb ethernet card i want to use

main menu

I don’t know an easy way

oh, I thought you meant usb 3.0

ah, didn’t know that was wireless. i thought just optical

compile your own kernel.

Where are system shutdown msgs configured?

!tell tremby about kernel-package !tell tremby about kpmantra !tell tremby about kp mantra

that sounds a little too tricky for me

h3sp4wn do you know wher can i read how to make this

hardly. kernel-package dumbs down everything about kernel compilation.

!tell maddash how to tell somebody -about search

fuck off. not to mention that it gave off nothing.

of course it didn’t

there isn’t anything i can just apt-get? something like enable sid, upgrade kernel, go back to lenny?

do you see anybody named maddash how to tell somebody ?

ah, you were being sarcastic. in that case, *pat on back*. and that last sentence made no sense.

let me rephrase, or re punctuate rather: “maddash how to tell somebody” ?

enough trolling already

I doubt it. it is possible to download the debs for linux-image-[blah], and fiddle with the internal debian/control to avoid having to switch to sid entirely, but that’s far more involved than kernel-package.

how big do flash sticks get nowadays

” this big “

memsticks, usb drives, whatever…

ok, thanks. i’ll have a go at compiling it.

hm, didn’t know it was you. if you’re going to poke fun at me, do it under this nick so that I know it’s actually, “fun”

that is my ‘watching law&order’ nick

svu? CI?

course i was really cleaning out the garage… i’m done with ‘ny’.. i’m on season 4 of svu, then comes ci well really on the last epi of season 3

bwahaha, you’ve been deprived of some pretty good stuff. my tip: skip straight to season 7 as for ci, don’t bother with anything after season 5 — it’s utter garbage. isn’t there some way to view the contents of my virtual memory in terms of the binary images loaded (shared libs included)?

like lsof?

lsof does files, right? what does that have to do with VM?

nothing.

lsom?

lsof would only work if the libs are loaded as files; could work. ‘lsom’?

j/k lsos(wap)

rofl http://www.google.com/search?q=lsos&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a The London School of Striptease

oh geeze

maybe something like grep -h ‘^[^ ]* .-x.’ /proc/*/maps | sort -k6 | uniq -c -f 1 for all nonwriteable, executable maps, grouped by filename and prefixed with a count

\amethyst: spiffy. /proc contains a folder for every process in the system?

yes maddash

i can’t get the 2.6.22 source with apt-get source (i believe) because it isn’t in lenny. i’ve downloaded the source deb file from the debian mirror site and now don’t know how to unpack it.

didn’t you say you were going to compile your own kernel?

!4096543-3118112

978431

yeah, and the first step of the howto you pointed me to is get the source

from kernel.org, not from a deb repo because the kernel you’re looking for exists in a repo that is incompatible to your system

oh, i see

go read up some how to on kernel compiling; in the meantime, execute “adduser `whoami` src” and logout/in

weee! progress, sorta | when startx, API mismatch kernel module = v 7184 while X module = v 8776

eww people get smited in here for less.. heh

followed by, “cd /usr/src ; wget [URL to kernel 2.6.22]”

use of backticks is frowned upon by many

Is there a known/aproved method for completely cleaning out the nvidia crap and starting clean(ish)

$() is a bit more obvious than just using “

i’m fine with the getting the source bit now. add root to src group?

no, compile the kernel as a normal user.

no, add your user you should not compile anything as root, ever

unpack the kernel you’ve downloaded inside of /usr/src, and then, “cd /usr/src/[kernel name]; cp /boot/config-`uname -r` ; make oldconfig ; make-kpkg –initrd [if you need one] kernel_image” add yourself to src. root is already in src.

but only root can adduser. whoami for root would return root

so sue me. my shift key is going to last longer than yours, anyway.

I am fairly certain you can leave out those steps as make-kpkg understands –config=oldconfig haha.. but my eyes will last longer than yours

you’re right. “su -c ‘adduser tremby src’ “

I got two shift keys… and keyboards are easier to replace than eyeballs

wtf are you talking about?

its easier to read and understand $(cmd) than `cmd`

“`” is there, so why wouldn’t i use it?

“ is more portable

depending on font and size, ` ‘ and ” all look the same

“ is eaisly confused with ”

and depending how you use em it can really get confusing

$(foo $(bar $(baz $(dog $(sheep $(cat $(barn $(chicken)))))))

`foo “$bar”` or $(foo “$bar”) is another example

you’re right. which is why I always use “\”" or ” ‘ ” to contain bash commands sent here. it’s understood by everyone that they should be removed before being executed.

but year that method nests better too I’m not sure if you even can nest the backticks.. and if you can it’d be fugly

if ‘make oldconfig’ starts throwing questions, just hit [enter] to go with the defaults

${foo${bar}} could get fun. yes “” | make oldconfig

looks like GNOME 2.20 uses the monitor’s real DPI for font rasterization, rather than assuming 96 all the time… I’m glad

what is the difference between the debootstrap and cdebootstrap packages?

does 2.6.22 have an eta in lenny?

perl vs c

shell vs c (debootstrap has better docs though)

interesting. why did someone write debootstrap in c?

/msg dpkg wir

man I need to build a better spider.. these shortcommings in my scripts are getting really old

to remove the dependency on perl?

sounds plausable.

fair.

According to the debtags, debootstrap is implemented in shell, not perl

When installing a new kernel image is it possible to force non-smp?

where can i find social commentary (like pictures and whatnot) online?

ultrasparc-: without recompiling? no.

i think i’ll wait rather than try to compile it now. thanks anyway maddash but i need to spend my time right now on something else.

ultrasparc-: for the sake of optimizing your kernel? insignificant and unadvisable.

ultrasparc-: You can use boot-time kernel parameters to tell the kernel to ignore all but the first processor, but it’ll still have the SMP support compiled into it

some interesting issues to address are better auth support for protected sites, and support for drones.. i.e. I can tell my spider to do something and have it connect to other boxes and split tasks between them and do load balancing

ultrasparc-: to continue Wyzard’s advice: use ‘isolcpus=#’

hmm, I haven’t heard of that one… I was thinking of “maxcpus”, and I think “nosmp” is equivalent to “maxcpus=1″

I will go the boot parameter route. Is that parameter part of menu.1st?

right, shell. why the two versions though?

but I could be wrong; I’ve only done it once, and it was months ago ultrasparc-: Why do you want to disable SMP?

\amethyst: that command really is neat. is there some doc on what the columns besides the first two from the left stand for? isolcpus isolates cpu# from the general scheduler.

I don’t have a valid reason yet, but I want to remove any suspicions that it is causing a problem with software raid that is running.

ultrasparc-: That’s unlikely… I’m using software RAID-5 with encryption and LVM on a Core 2 Duo and it’s been working fine since January

I think my problem is hardware related, or maybe an insue with some unstable packages. A clean install of etch then upgrade to unstable is causing many programs to segfault intermitently, and I often receive strange no_remap/recursive errors related to paging in messages. Running a Cedar Mill pentium 4 - that is being picked up as smp.

ultrasparc-: Hyperthreading looks like SMP to the operating system ultrasparc-: Consider running memtest

or put another way, it’s two CPU cores inside one package

Not quite… hyperthreading is one core that can maintain two execution contexts at the same time

how exactly does it differ from having two actual separate cores?

performance sucks shit

It’s still only one core worth of instruction decoder, ALUs, cache, etc.

sudo modpr uhci-hcd

I dont believe it can execute more than one instruction.

One core faking being two cores is usually slower than one core not f aking it ultrasparc-: It can’t. ultrasparc-: It’s just telling the OS to overschedule it. It was a desperate ploy to hide the obscene cache-bubble costs in netburst.

Etch net install cd have memtest?

ultrasparc-: hyperthreading didn’t work well on the P4

The idea is that a core can stall sometimes due to instruction dependencies, so it’s idle for a few cycles; with hyperthreading it can just run instructions from another task during that time

a “few” cycles? Try 26, as a minimum.

ultrasparc-: dunno if it’s runnable from the CD directly, but you can install it on the hard drive

NetBurst P4s spent most of their time waiting on L2 cache or memory.

ultrasparc-: If you have an Ubuntu CD around, you can run memtest from that

a bad branch prediction had a 26 cycle minimum penalty

hehe

too deep a pipeline

That’s why Intel scrapped NetBurst yes, you are quite deep

yeah, but netburst was such a bad idea, it should never have been on the market. Hooray for excess market power

Well, it’s understandable… they were playing the MHz game at the time

Know of any memtest equivalent that I don’t need a cd-rom for. I really dont want to put one in the machine right now…

ultrasparc-: You already have Debian on the machine, right? ultrasparc-: As long as the machine isn’t completely unusable, you can install the memtest86 package

Ah, sorry, I just noticed it as a package.

ultrasparc-: After running update-grub (which I think it does automatically), you’ll have a new entry for it on your GRUB menu ultrasparc-: Consider memtest86+ instead of memtest86, though I don’t know what the actual difference is

Installed +, thanks for the help everyone, will see if it turns up anything.

yeah, but it was a Bad Idea. If there hadn’t been competition to eat their lunch, we wouldn’t have the performance we have today

hey, should a wireless usb optical mouse work fine with a ps/2 adapter?

\amethyst: pmap!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the advice, memtest identified numerous errors

ultrasparc-: donate the suxory ram to me

what’s wrong with it?

If you really want it, by all means, free for pick up

ultrasparc- where are you? besides, what type of ram is it?

Ottawa

mine does. usb mouse connected via ps2 adatpter. wireless and optical

hummmm..

2×256 ddr 400

hmm, the new gnome-power-manager is failing to suspend on my laptop “Policy timeout is not valid. Please wait a few seconds and try again.”

ultrasparc-: I’ll send you a s.a.s.e. for firstclass mail (unless you’re in utah, then I could pick it up). email me your address cvgscote@hotmail.com - I have one pathetic use case I want to try with it.

Only if the mouse is designed to support the adapter

awwwweee fooey. thanks Wyzard, good point.

anyone here familiar with cisco routers?

how easy is it to get a working mac os x installation in a vm on sid?

Those USB-to-PS/2 adapters don’t actually do any protocol conversion; they send a signal back to the mouse to tell it to speak the PS/2 protocol instead of USB

they power the internets

yeah…. I need help understanding something about them though so I can configure one

have you read the EULA?

to… mac os x?

yes. their eula forbids install on non apple hardware. I have two copies that I should just resell now you remind me of it.

of what version? tiger?

but what about Debian running on a Mac?

debian’s fine. runs on my ibook with ease.

OSX

I wonder if they’d consider that to be a violation of the EULA — is it the real hardware that counts, or the virtual hardware?

call them and ask.

of course, vista denies running dual boot, but do you think that’s stopping anyone?

what’s vista?

exactly

oh yea, it’s the suck. now I remember.

well that’s obnoxious of Apple, to tell people “you can’t run our software without buying our hardware”

Basic and Home Premium forbid running in a VM, but I haven’t heard anything about them forbidding dual-booting

you still haven’t answered my question. what version of os x would you be selling?

I agree DocPlatypus. that’s why I’m liquidating my copies of it. grr.

do they actually check or is it just in the EULA?

tiger x86

and how the hell do they tell real hardware from virutalized?

how much?

From what I’ve read, it’s just in the EULA, but I don’t have Vista so I haven’t tested it firsthand uFrom what I’ve read, it’s just in the EULA, but I don’t have Vista so I haven’t tested it firsthand/u

I just replaced my motherboard, CPU and RAM, and now Debian drops me to shell complaining that there is no /hdd/hdc1 Should I mount my HDD and then just change grub for it to boot?

Most likely your new motherboard has a different IDE controller whose driver (in recent kernels) presents drives as sd* rather than hd*

hello fellow linux addicts hows life?

How can I fix that? Right now I have the system right next to me Or do I need to reboot and change grub?

Edit the root= parameter when booting and that should get it started If your /etc/fstab points to other on-disk filesystems besides the root, you might get dropped to a shell when fsck complains it can’t find them, but you can use that shell to edit /etc/fstab and reboot

thank you for the hint, will try it in a second

I used the netinst cd, and when it came up with the options of what package selections I wanted, it said only “base system” or whatever was available–why? uI used the netinst cd, and when it came up with the options of what package selections I wanted, it said only “base system” or whatever was available–why?/u

er, boot into the base system and install the packages you want? why the ban?

so it doesn’t do it on the cd?

what exactly do you want?

well it would have been nice to have been presented with a list of software during the installation

exit

isn’t that what it’s _supposed_ to do?

tell me, does your supermarket cook your chicken thighs for you, too?

if the supermarket advertises that it does, then when I walk in, I expect it to

then it should be clear to you how the netinst works

normally I wouldn’t, but if it says on the sign “WE COOK YOUR CHICKEN THIGHS FOR YOU; FREE”, then yes, I would expect that. “You would initially download only a small portion of Debian required to start the installation process, and then install whatever else you want from within the installation program.” emphasis on “from within the installation program.”, directly from http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

DAMMIT! what’s this fucking obsession with libdbus that’s come over the PacMans lately? you’ve two options, once the base sys is installed. 1) chroot into /target and start apt-getting your stuff, 2) reboot into your base sys and start apt-getting your stuff “apt-getting” here means “aptitude install [clutter]” and/or “tasksel”

where can I find out how a package was compiled? (with what flags)

-Wall -g -O2

err

so generic that it’s worthless

I mean, in the configure process

are you sure that’s how it works?

‘mkdir [clutterdump] && cd [clutterdump] ; apt-get source [random package] ‘ and check out the file debian/rules

to me, that seems like it’s equivalent to the website saying “provides an easy way to partition your drives,” and in reality it expects you to switch to a virtual terminal, login, and use fdisk?

no, I’m secretly trying to throw you off and land your base sys into ubuntu-land the “within the installation program” probably referred to tasksel

How do I find out what is my hd(0,1) in normal /dev/sdX terms?

but debian is making a graphical installer? new users aren’t going to know to use tasksel?

thanks, maddash

refers*. you were given an option after the base sys was installed to download stuff appropriate to ‘Desktop,’ ‘laptop,’ ‘web,’ etc

if debian expects that you know that, why the hell would they write a new graphical installer for new users?

if you want the graphical installer, look through the F1-F5 guide presented at “boot:”

“Could not connect to volatile.debian.net:80 (192.54.42.193). - connect (111 Connection refused)” woops

but the graphical installer does the same thing…?

oh noes.

hola

no, it also toasts your nuptials for you

howdy

?

essentially, yes

That does seem weird to me… tasksel should work normally on a netinstall

just to let you know, I’m almost considering going back to slackware just because of the reception I’m receiving in here

this is what I recall when I installed lenny earlier this year, so my info could be outdated

not that you probably care–you’re probably glad that I’m saying that

bah.. don’t let that get to you

What is the alternitive to fdisk -l in grub?

first of all this isnt even the official debian support channel anymore.. you could at least try there first

where is the official channel?

oftc !oftc

and fact sharing

okay, thanks, I’ll try there.

irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net)

!#debian

[#debian] home sweet home!

goddamit fucking useless bot

what a fucking moron

heh, calm down

what happened?

unhappy customer

ahh didn’t wanna help himself eh

Idk I wasn’t paying attention

hrhr

he saw the sign on the supermarket that said, “indoor deli,” and expected to find fillet mignon

you’ve been silenced for 10 minutes. name calling isn’t going to be tollerated

please. it’s not “name-calling” when done in posterity.

I just tried to make him realize this channel doesnt represent debian, and he shouldn’t give up based on one person in this channel

How about to change the factoid, if needed

streuner, working on i it

anyone know how to directly determine the version of nvidia-glx that is being loaded? glxinfo segfaults

!beer stew

man, ff scripts can be really …. s l o w… sometimes

How about to run “dpkg -l nvidia-glx”?

if you have installed the official version, then dpkg -l nvidia-glx works

How can I find out the harddrive types in a (initramfs) debian shell?

streuner i know what one should be installed, im trying to check to see if there is a stale lib

cat /proc/partitions provided the drivers are loaded.

Is there a special reason why you joined us today?

sweet, it worked!!! Thank you Supaplex!

bored

hm

now it tells me that superblock last mount is in the future :O!?

check your time

and work deadline pressure has eased up a bit, but will pick up again at the end of the month

3pm

that only returned the package that is in the archive, 8776 is not loaded (per apt-get remove its not isntalled)

type in date. and see what your computer thinks the time is

oh okay

where did you get nvidia-glx from, then, if it was noit from the debian package?

2002?? But that’s in the past!

Also, look at /var/log/Xorg.log.0; perhaps there is a version number in the logs If your computer thinks it is in 2002; then most files will have time stamps in the future, no?

i havn’t nothing on /proc/acpi/thermal_zone ….why? i need some package?

Manoj thats the thing, i didnt install the n-glx, i installed the -legacy, which is in the xorg log

oh so should I just fix the time?

ok. if you have the legacy installed, then the description tells you all kinds of stuff

and now it thinks that I got IPv6 for some reason

for what ever reason both the nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy debs are downloaded, and dpkg (and apt) agree that -legacy is the installed version (7184-3)

do you by chance have a flux capacitor plugged into your USB port?

apt-cache show nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx, and so on

I didn’t know you could get USB flux caps.

I’ve only seen them in ISA

Flax capactitors?!?

apt-cache show nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx; shows: Version: 1.0.7185-4

nope, my 2 USB ports are empty….

odd, for me its 1.0.7184-3

you’re seriously out of linen there

Also, there were a bunch of people on -user who were all concerned about debian getting contaminated by SELinux apparently blissfully unaware that Etch was already infected

\amethyst: looks like I will have to get some more? :p

hi

I switched cables on the computer and now Debian thinks that it is on sda instead of sdb How do I fix that?

I installed Etch on my box, complete with exim. exim will send mail to the user accounts on the box, but not to external addresses. How do I make it do that?

so I also stepped in to see if SELinux paronia extended out here in the channel

SELinux is rarely an issue here

it practically never gets any mention at all

yeah, it rarely is on -user either but people there were all concerned about debian being tainted by evil nsa back doors ah well.

those people need tinfoil hats, the NSA just fires off a CALEA request to the cellco/telco and forgets about the pc, hars

configure exim and use “smarthost”

haha

Manoj so any other ideas about this?

It has been ages since I did an Exim install (I am a sendmail man myself), but I know that other mta’s ask when being installed about whether to set up a local only mailer, smart host based one, or a gfull server

do you need to also receive emails on that host ?

abrotman, no, just send

if that is true for exim as well, which I vaguely recall, then dpkg-reconfigure exim might help

yes .. use a smart host

hello

Manoj, ahh, thx

exim4-config

abrotman, ty

When Debian updated the kernel it does it to sda instead of sdb. Anyone know how to fix that?

!drec

apt-get –reinstall install nvidia-legacy-71xx; at the end of which, you can be sure which version is installed?

!drec me

dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config # run it as root

your have configured a modem 537Ep intel pci in debian etch? i have windows xp, but like user GNU/Linux no Windows

Manoj i basicly did that, removed, then installed, but ill try –reisntall

sounds like an internal modem?

what is the underlying problem?

Should I reconfigure grub?

struner i have a pci modem intel 537Ep in Mother Board BIOSTAR

I had to put nvidia-glx on hold in Sid right now, since nvidia-glx and xorg are mismatched, and a new nvidia-glx has not yet been uploaded

so onboard

Hello everyone, I am having an error saying no screen found in Xorg, specifically Filed to load module GLCore (module does not exist, 0) This was all working before a system crash… Any idea how I can correct it? I have reinstalled fglrx driver

whats the latest version of PHP in the debian repos?

I have an ati radeon 9600.. It was working fine with Compiz-fusion before this

(and NO i do not have nv loading, thats all google showed as a

use pdo to find out (/msg dpkg pdo)

if it was working before a crash, and is not now, I would worry about the state of your filesystem

with “smarthost”, do I need to specify another host that this one will send mail through?

manoj, and how would i go about testing that? it seems fine… (?)

yes

I think you have reached the limits of my competence in this area

!smarthost

A smart host is a type of mail relay server (typically your ISP SMTP server) which allows an SMTP server to route e-mail to an intermediate mail server rather than directly to the recipients server.

perhaps it is time to file a bug report? well, booting to single user mode, and running fsck on everything

Manoj, mine too, i dunno that its a “bug” so much as just a mis configuration, but all the infos i read and the methods are all the same (deb way or nvidias way)

etc/fstab has the the wrong drive numbers Should I just correct that, and everyone thing is fixed?

is mother board is biostar p4m800-m7

so restart into a single user mode and just run fsck? Pardon my ignorance

misconfiguration should not cause nvidia-glx to segfault

drive letters rather

yes, that’ll do it

the only thing that really stick in my mind is that when installing it brings in the 2.6.18-5-k7 AND -486 kernels

telinit might help (do a man telinit)

gr.. where the hell did php 5 5.2.4 come from :/

streuner is mother board is biostar p4m800-m7

How about to take a look in your manual (mobo) and find out what chipset (modem) you have?

telinit 1 takes you to single user mode

Okay, and let’s assume everything seems fine.. How can I try to reconfigure whatever I need to for my video card

use groups.google.com what kind of driver you need

I’m looking for it, but it says sid is the only one providing 5.2.4, but it doesn’t look like I have anything unstahble or even testing in here

How is my system working with fstab all wrong?

well, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is where the configuration happens

What does ‘dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1′ say?

i buy this modem later of my computers

ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ;;; http://paste2.org/p/7481

if you have read-edid, mdetect, discover/discover2 installed, then dexconf tries to generate a new file (cd /tmp and run dexconf; save a copy of current confirg)

hm, external ones are usually stuff with less headaches…

I will try the fsck and hope it all goes well. Then I will try to edit the xorg.conf, as the error report mentioned that file. I suppose it is possible there are some misconfigured lines

/msg dpkg backports

best of luck

That all sounded greek to me. Thanks

am I using backportsr?

streuner i living in venezuela, my inglish no es good

!es

Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.

well, look at backports.org, is there a backport or not

What does fstab do anyway?

exit

man fstab

aye, the problem is I upgraded my system and it DID install php 5.2.4

dpkg en debian-es no hay mucha ayuda

oh

dpkg is a bot

hence my confusion why is the hardened-php patch (Suhosin) installed

So the first drive is mounted where the second drive is supposed to be?

I don’t have a smarthost to send mail to. Is there still a way that Exim can send outgoing mail from my box?

that make no sense to me at all, only you have backports.org in your sources.list and it would exist a backport of PHP5

is it a static IP ?

I have the wrong drive in fstab yet the system is functioning correctly

abrotman, yes 202.191.43.2

you can try to set it up as an ‘internet site’ .. and then just firewall off port 25

abrotman, ok thx

“You say: exim, please use ISP mail server in order to send mails and NOT me”

abchirk2, brb streuner, thx

you mean, it makes no sense that it did install that, unless I were to have backports.org listed as a source, or I had manually installed a backport?

just run “apt-cache policy package” (to see where did that package come from) s/did/this/

hrm..

abrotman, thanks, works

I have a feeling netmirror.org isn’t an official mirror of Debian?

official mirrors are ftp.TLD.debian.org …

ok

secondary mirrors could be something else

I am just going to correct etc/fstab. I think that will fix everything. Right?

best is always, use an official mirror, less headaches

aye

I edited grub, I forget do I have to do anything else ? Or does grub read menu.lst on boot?

you need to run grub-install IIRC

nope

oh, thats lilo-install isn’it it

should just read it

you need to know about your bootloader, its essential in fedora linux (or it was) (lilo)

no

very important, so read something about grub

hrmm

OK thanks

http://wiki.debian.org/GRUB?highlight=%28grub%29

I don’t know if Debian does something different, but with Gentoo you have to run /sbin/lilo or grub-install

we already said no .. well .. with grub no

sorry, I meant “I don’t know what debian does different”

http://wiki.debian.org/GRUB?highlight=%28grub%29

grub reads menu.lst, everything works now I think

ive mounted my windows partition(ntfs) but i can read/execute the files… i need ntfs-3g?

!congratulate lfs

Yay lfs, you did it!

but take a look at the URL above, it doesnt hurd

!ntfs

from memory, ntfs is Windows NT’s filesystem. There are 2 main drivers in Debian, a Linux driver only able to read and NTFS-3G, a FUSE driver able to write too. For information about the former, ask me about ntfsro. For information about the latter, ask me about ntfs-3g. See also http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ and http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html

apt, test

Oh, no! There’s a test and I haven’t studied!

does debian.org have a rss feed?

for the news ?

found it

it’s over here

konq pulled it up does not have it on the main page

!qotd2

damn, yes. I accidentally pushed it.

well, to unterstand the qotd2, you need to know that “mrvn” is DD …

 

New zealand postgresql web hosting

 

I thought about modifying the factoid to s/mrvn/$nick/g for added fun

but i don’t think he was then

!factinfo qotd2

1 2004 by peterS!~peterS~@adsl-66-138-124-254.dsl.wcfltx.swbell.net; it has been requested 190 times, last by streuner, 6m 38s

oh, 190 times since Aug 7, it seems its used every single day in the channels…

uhm .. 2004

haha oh yeah, but 190 times is since 2004 a good result too !moo

mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I’m a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I’m a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo.

!factinfo moo

6 2006 by Gnurdux!n=gnurdux@c-69-251-233-242.hsd1.md.comcast.net; it has been requested 190 times, last by streuner, 15s

everything is 190!

hehe

screw that ‘42′ stuff .. the answer is 190!

automatix

abrotman, please tell me again how I make a daemon start automatically at boot?

!automatix

Automatix is a Ubuntu Linux-only tool which allows a menu-driven installation of 44 different ‘capabilities’, including commercial closed source programs such as Flash plug-in, Acrobat Reader, w32 codecs (divx, mp3, wma), web core fonts as well as programming compilers and more. These items are not shipped with Ubuntu for legal or philosophical reasons. –Wikipedia. Ubuntu also dislikes it: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html

!rc

i guess rc is Release-critical, or Release Candidate

!rc.d

Debian is not DeadRat. There is no /etc/rc.d/*. Everything you want is in /etc/*. try (on debian) ‘man update-rc.d’, or ask me about red hat tools

!update-rc.d

rumour has it, update-rc.d is used to manipulate what’s loaded when a system boots up. Also use it instead of deleting symlinks by hand Example to add: ‘update-rc.d dhcpd defaults 90′. Example to remove: ‘update-rc.d -f dhcpd remove’, or read “man update-rc.d” for a good intro to Debian’s boot process, or see rcconf NOT a tool that should be used by users, see the manpage.

hello!

Hi. I was trying to upgrade from php4 to php5 and I seem to have broken apache/php I did apt-get install php5 and apt-get install libapache-mod-php5

apache or apache2?

anyone got any tips for getting Debian 4.0r1 to install on a Thinkpad i1300? The ALi545x chipset has buggy ide, which I was able to work around on a Gentoo install by using “ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66 ide2=ata66 ide3=ata66″, but I can’t seem to get it accepted on netinst boot.

My etch box can not recognize my dvdrom RW

then I restarted apache. No pages seem to load now

I installed cdrecord and cdrdao

(primary symptom is I can boot from the CD, but then can’t mount it as a base package source.)

dendrite, I believe its apache, confirming

load the module sg and scsi_mod

yep apache

here is the output of “cdrecord -scanbus”: scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) ‘ATA ‘ ‘WDC WD1600JS-75N’ ‘10.0′ Disk 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) *

24 is too many.

sorry

Well, I’d be wary of moving to apache2, but that *might* help. Or it might make a mess.

does oracle support it? hehe

dendrite, should I need to tho? I wouldn’t have tried if I hadn’t been told this was fairly easyt

the output of “cdrecord -scanbus”: scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) ‘ATA ‘ ‘WDC WD1600JS-75N’ ‘10.0′ Disk What does that output mean?

Sorry, I’m at the edge of what I know re apache and php. But it’s a possible angle for further research.

yes we saw already. btw, it means little c/o your issue. are these wav files you’re trying to use for redbook audio?

dendrite, mmm, thanks tho

hmm

NO. The K3B or Gnomebaker can not recognize my dvdrom device, I’m not sure how to check if the kernle support it. also when I use “modprobe ide-scsi”, it tells me “no such module”

is it scsi? cdrecord (now wodim) has a different way to scan for ide + scsi now.

does that mean I need to recompile the kernel?

no, ide-scsi is depreciated wodim can use dev=/dev/hdc for instance.

What should I do to get this info?

is it scsi or atapi?

ATA

man wodim for the ways to enumerate devices. if it’s atapi/ata, use dev=/dev/hdX

man apache-modconf

back to your issue. chimpmunks? is the audio playing back too fast? is this redbook audio? (eg, for normal cdplayers)

it’s an IDE CDROM should be /dev/hdc but there is no /dev/hdc

it could be /dev/hdanything check dmesg

only /dev/hda is found

it could also be /dev/sdanything

hdcc is throwing lost interrupt errors er/ hdc

dmesg | grep -i atapi he said it was ata anyway.

thx stew. big learning curve, but sometimes ya gotta

I was able to work around this when I tried gentoo by setting all ide devices to ata66, but that’s not working here

sorry. back from checking.

sounds like flakey hardware if you’re making workarounds to burn cds

ide-cd is throwing timed-out errors, which is the same symptom I had when I tried gentoo on it

unless you’re just doing it wrong.

I was to burn some favroites into dvds.

how discover the gtk version of my box?

oh, I’m not trying to burn anything I’m trying to install burned the CD on another machine I can boot from the install CD in the drive, but once booted, I can’t detect the drive any more to mount it

Alaric`: I though you were switch-hitting with JJackBauer since your issues appeared to be similar to begin with. nm

nope never seen him before in my life

?

I need to get the burn worked, the device can not be recognized.

how discover the gtk version of my box?

could you kindly tell me what module should be loaded into kernel for the recognition?

dpkg -l libgtk1.2 libgtk2.0-0

hrm. it’s just been suggested that I could try booting from a USB stick … if this laptop supports that (I’m not certain it does)

ide-cd

ii libgtk1.2 1.2.10-18 The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X ii libgtk2.0-0 2.8.20-7 The GTK+ graphical user interface library

Alaric`: Have you tried any of the boot arguments that are available?

is installed gtk1.2 and gtk2.0 ?

yes

umm its good ? or bad?

neither

dendrite, yes, I’m using expertgui append=”ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66 ide2=ata66 ide3=ata66″ which worked for gentoo

Do I need to reboot after loading? The burning always asks me to insert a disk into DVD/RW

1.2 is need by gimp

its normal no, gimp would be using 2.0-0

oh

I’ll try to put “ide-cd” “sg” into /etc/modules to see what it willhappen

I have a problem to use print function of eclipse IDE

bah. i1300 won’t boot from a USB stick.

its not available

hrm. gonna have to study this some more, see if I can find a workaround.

maybe ide-cdrom

huh …… actually …. I wonder if I could boot from Knoppix, which seems to load the CD OK, then … no, that wouldn’t work either. ah well. I shall ponder and experiment, see what I can figure out. later all.

nm ide-cdrom, it’s ide-cd

yes. no ide-cdrom module found

Set your bios to boot from the CD

all other application I can use printer just in eclipse its not available i dunno how to use printer in eclipse IDE

I can easily to scan the device in dmesg HL-DT-ST DVD+/-RW GWA4164B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)

so it’s /dev/hda

whats the way to make my wireless eth0 be wlan0

yes. where should I put this parameter ?

i dunno how to use printer in eclipse IDE

man wodim. wodim [ general options ] dev=device [ track options ] track1…trackn dev=device aka dev=/dev/hda I’m not repeating it

how to install gtk2.10 ?

install something that needs it. or apt-get install libgtk2.0-0 !tell S4nD3r -about search edit /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules

is there a way to forcibly kill processes that are stuck in io that will never end?

theres no 2.10

(due to device problems)

not until it returns from the i/o call.

for some reason the io call never returns.. is there a way to perform a full ide bus reset on a controller?

thanks

or anything to make it realize the device is dead the device in question is an evil optical drive i’m never buying another internal optical drive because they all do this. with usb at least it’s easy to kill them when they misbehave…

would this change on a reboot ?

is the media fubar? dma can deadlock in those situations (from my observation)

nm

supaplex, it got stuck on some media it didn’t too much like

yes, but it’ll change sooner if you shutdown the interface and reload the module

(happens rather often, and seems to happen more as drives age…) i force-ejected the media but the kernel won’t realize it’s gone

yea, D processes are the suck. I’m not sure if that’s an x86/x64 related issue, or if that’s a computing problem in general. it’s not restricted to Linux

umm maybe installing gnome 2.16?

well i was just asking if there’s a way to do a forced bus reset or something

no, not that I’m aware of

gnome 2.20 ? how to install gnome 2.20 ?

!gnome

rumour has it, gnome is a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or - to get gnome, ask about install gnome, or the human G-nome

!install gnome

To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about set up x

ok time to cut power to the device then that did it and the device is back usable

daring…

i’m going to wire my reset switch to a relay to cut power to the cd drive… because this happens so often then i can cut power without opening the case

hmm, nautilus crashes if I try to open the properties window for an .iso file I’ll assume that’s because of the 2.20 transition :-/

in what way does it crash? segfault? just dies and goes away? stupid samba logs. sure, go ahead and ignore the guest user directive. meh.

ok this is stupid… it’s just mplayer that’s making reading the vcd freeze the drive ripping it with cdrdao is no problem probably the issue is mplayer seeking to end of disc (or past end) which is a kernel bug if it causes a problem..

or a crappy encode or the file is too big for the cd #mplayer

is there anyone around that can read arabic?

did you try the google arabic translation thing?

is it stupid to do a manual chroot and also use mod_security to secure apache 2?

yea i did, but it’s all good i was able to decypher it kinda and it worked

my terminal seems all crazy in etch… curly apostrophe’s show up as a with a carrot over it, several extended characters show up as the same thing, and the title has that followed by the euro sign anybody know what I can do to correct this? Not finding anything specific on google

neighbors, sounds like you have inconsistent locale settings.. do you know what character encoding you’re _intending_to use?

characters I enter are fine but characters displayed from things like man pages are not for example… format similar to âls -lâ

type locale and see what it says for LC_CTYPE

LC_CTYPE=”en_US.UTF-8″

or perhaps the terminal you’re using is broken

ok and what terminal are you using?

putty

ah go in putty config and set it to utf-8

go to translation settings in putty and select utf-8

and complain to putty developer for having bad defaults

ah thanks guys couldn’t figure that one out

no prob

hello guys, I have my debian machine using the very minimal base install with x and blackbox, but I would like to be a ble of check videos (perhaps vlc) and listen music cds (wav) and mp3s ? what do you guys recommend me? should I go with xmms? and vlc

xmms is dead and unmaintained i think

is anything there new? really

i’d go with mplayer but i’m biased because i’m a developer

hmm

there’s some flashy gui mp3 player for kde but it’s typical kde bloatware

wow very sad news about it

well xmms works fine for most things

I want to keep my blackbox as clean as possible

i was annoyed that it would not display my non-ascii filenames/tags though

xmms will also play wavs? and mp3s?

yes it should

ohhh it did not display the name of the song and/or artist? but what do you guys think about amarok?

i was saying, i was annoyed with it because it would only show ascii in the filenames/song names/artists so it’s not good for non-english files amarok is probably nice but bloated, i think i mean it’ll pull in all the kde stuff if you install it

I see I will just go with xmms but I saw a clon of xmms in ubuntu and was just the same as xmms, I know that we are not ubuntu, but if was running there it could be available for us

whats it called?

I honestly don’t remember but it has the logo of debian on it

Hello all. I am having odd problems with wodim not thinking my SATA device is a burner. Any tips? The old SATA burner worked fine. *cricket* *cricket* *cricket*

Does anyone know how to make a log of which process edits a file and when?

strace could help with some of it inotify perhaps

hrm ok you have any hints for strace?

grep strace without grep is a good way to drive yourself insane

i made some firewall rules, wanna import it to iptables during boot up, how do i add a line to be executed in boot time

well i understand that strace can show you what’s up with a running process, my question is who’s editing the damm file and when

hi what kill command would I use to kill iceweasel .. I have been having some problems with it lately and cannot kill it clicking the x?

dnotify

ok dnotify from what I understand only shows you the when, not the who i’m more after the who or maybe something like dnotify -A ‘lsof | grep filename’ or something

use ctrl-alt-esc then click the window to kill it, or run something like gps

thanks will try that theres no man for gps?

exim4_listener. exim4. exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken

in iptables, is it first one match win or last one match wins

does anyone know whats wrong? or how can i fix this?

hey in chmod, what does the d and the extra r mean in drwxr-x—

directory readable

i see so what’s the difference between r/readable and r/having read permission

same

?

There are 3 groups for file permissions, owner, group, and world. So -rwx-rw-r could be read, written to, and executed by its owner, read and written to by the group it is in, and only read by everyone else

no no it has drwxr for owner x for group and nothing for world

woopsy, that was an example, but mucked it up

thats how samba is setting the permissions for all my files which is not how i configured it i configured it create mask and directory mask 0750

for a dir it means you can see the files in it with ls

oh files have it too

my example should have been -rwxrw-r–

6

but yeah, that is weird

yes, but for files it means you can open and rad them

what about the other r ?

Ah, ok, that is fine then

read*

the other r is for the ‘group’ the file is in

it comes before the hyphen meaning it’s still for ‘owner’ isnt it

a - in there means it doesn’t have that permission

ohh

so the owner has full permissions, the group has read and execute, and the rest have nothing in that case

so that is 0750?

I think…if I remember my numbers right yeah, it is

can someone help me with exim4 ?

not I, but ask and see if someone else does !tell psyche_ -about ask

there is #exim

so that means other members of the group i’m in can read it right

permissions are represented as 3 octal bits.. Owner, Group, Other. 0=None, 1=execute, 2=write, 4=read.

#exim …

0-7 are the possible combinations, derived simply by adding the numbers /j #exim

yeah

my primary group or any group i’m in?

neither he didn’t read or understand your question files are owned by a particular group

Yeah, sorry, thought you mean members of the file’s group

steve steve means the file is owned by user steve, and goup steve

so only me or other members of group ’steve’ can read it? if its 0750

I’m a bit tired tired, not reading things right..

yea im sorry im not explaining it well either

a file -rw–r—– (0640) root adm, can be read/written by user root, read-only by members of group adm, and not accessed at all by other users

i made some firewall rules, wanna import it to iptables during boot up, how do i add a line to be executed in boot time???

i see so i have a directory called ‘media’ on my fileserver i want it so only members of a group ‘mediausers’ can access it and individual files put in there by individual users are protected (i.e. someone cannot delete or modify another user’s stuff) so i made the create and directory mask 0750

chmod 750 /dir/media ; chgrp mediausers /dir/media

i see so i have to make all the files part of mediausers group

chown root:mediausers media; chmod 770 media

chgrp -R /path/to/media woops sorry as I said, very tired

don’t forget chmod +st /dir/media

then you will need to setup a umask or such so that permissions of files created by users are rw for them and ro for anyone else

you can set the directory permission to t

is there a way to have a file automatically changed permissions like that when it’s put in that dir

hmm

sgid directory

sticky

sorry im not following

!sticky

na, I washed my hands after I put the little indian away

!sticky bit

sticky bit is, like, the “t” bit on /tmp. When set on a directory, it means that users cannot unlink anyone else’s files (and a few other things). It has no effect on files in any modern Unix.

!setgid

[setgid] chmod g+s, a bit which means a program is executed with the group ID of its group-owner. On a directory it means files created therein inherit the dir’s group ownership.

sticky is not ignored.

on files?

so should i do chmod g+s on the /dir/media so everything created inside it inherit the mediausers gruop

oh a sticky on a file. doesn’t mean anything

yes stiv2k, it’ll create mediausers group owned directories

right

excellent

and you should make it +t as well

it’s similar to how /usr/src is managed ala src group.

which means you can’t unlink other peoples files

unlink?

delete.

so chgrp will only change the GROUP of all of the files and it won’t touch the owner of them? i thought they couldnt do that anyway if they didnt have write access

correct you want the directory to be group writable

no just owner writable

chgroup would require manual management of this stuff

so people cant modify anyone elses stuff

+t handles that just fine

if its only owner writable then only one user can write to it, period.

default umask disallows others modifying your stuff

files can have only one user and one group that owns it

!acl

methinks acl is Access Control List or http://acl.bestbits.at/ or http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~agbs/live/acl_eng.html, or at http://www.suse.de/~agruen/acl/linux-acls/online/

unless you get complicated.

right gotcha

That usr link is a rather neat idea.

no what i was sayign is the GROUP can read it but only the OWNER can modify it

0640 erm 0750 for a dir

!grounding

Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about “ig”, “docs”, “manuals”, “unix lessons”, “reference”, “fundamentals”, “newbiedoc”, “refcard”, “faq”. (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client)

sticky protects the file even if the user has changed their umask relying on the umask which is user alterable to achieve this goal is undesirable

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does anyone knows a good translator as babylon?

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ahh i see so sticky is chmod +t again right?

I’m using xserver-xorg-ati-video from experimental and getting really washed out/bright colours… what can I do (if it’s a bug… what info can I gather?)

right

good work dondelelcaro

how do i make it to execute a command during bootup time

crontab @reboot, or /etc/rcS.d/ or rc.local

or /etc/rc[0-6].d/ depending on the runlevel

ok so this is a newb question but i could’nt get any good search results. how would i have my debian server execute a single command at boot or what is the best/easiest way

what is that dvd-burning tool that has the /dev/device=file.udf syntax?

three ways, 1) rc.local 2) your own init.d script 3) @reboot in crontab.

i can’t remember what it is

growisofs

thanks. that pointed me in the right direction

8′ foo” works for non-owners of

they have to be +w on the directory (or the file)

thanks

hmm, i testing this on a file that i set to another user but with go+rw and i own and have w on the directory…still no good http://rafb.net/p/6HYNzP56.html

if you’re just going to do it by touching, the file has to be +w, but you can do it effectively by cp’ing, mv, and touch.

growisofs -Z /dev/scd0=office.iso reports “:-( not an MMC unit!” … what the hell?!?

haiiiiiiiiiii

im really need help with exim4 now, #exim4 is so dead…

scd0 isn’t an MMC burner.

hayyyyyyyyyyyy

exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken — this is my error message

hayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

please stop with the lameness.

it didnt work

that works too

i created a new directory inside media and it didnt make it group mediausers

are you in the group mediausers?

the file is a+w. the cp mv thing you suggested though would make the me the owner. trying to avoid that.

yes, but im doing it from samba………. im not sure if that is going to affect it

well, no clue whether samba obeys g+s or not

just curious… why’d u want to have multiple users touching a file?

(and btw, it’s g+s that has the effect that you’re looking for, not d+t)

i didnt do d+t i did g+st

there’s no reason for the directory to be +t unless only owners should be removing files therein

i dunno, nevyn told me to do it i want it so only owners can modify their own files and so they cant mess with other people’s stuff

ah, ok.. then +t is ok

the g+s didnt seem to work i did `touch somefile` from command line (not thru samba) and it still made it as steve:steve isntead of steve:mediausers

it’s not critical, but whatever software my boss is using to upload files to our lab’s webserver is throwing some error because it can’t modify the date (presumably to set it to the date of the original file)…

it works by default; whether samba obeys it or not is up to samba. steve has to be part of mediausers for that to happen.

now you confused me :/ should i have done chmod g+st -R media/ so it works in all the directories inside media

here’s an example; first make sure that id; reports floppy. then mkdir test; chmod g+s test; chgrp floppy test; mkdir test/test1; ls -l test/test1;

anyway, it makes sense that non-owners should be able to set that property….i don’t know why it won’t let me even with full privs open on the file/directory

wait it worked if i do stuff in media/

how to make boot script to run a command every time

but if i touch a file in media/someotherdir/yet1moredir/ then it doesnt do it so im guessing i need to pass the -R flag to chmod

shouldn’t your boss’s software have the ownership of the file (since it’s responsible for uploading it?)

it only works when you do stuff in directories which are g+s

but… kinda weird… i wouldn’t think anybody made that kind of non-MMC stuff anymore.

and you don’t wnat to use the -R flag

uhhh

I didn’t think so either, but *shrug*

ok so i just confirmed samba obeys the g+s i cant make it so EVERY file and directory under media/ obeys g+s ???

-R is indiscriminate, it’ll make files g+s too, which is not good. Use find + xargs + chmod

ohhh so i need just every dir in media/ not every dir and file

right.

gotcha i dont know what xargs is

which is why you do find media -type d -print0|xargs -0 chmod g+s; well, now is the right time to learn. man find; man xargs; and see if you can figure out what the command I gave to you does before you run it.

find -type d -exec chmod g+s “{}” \; xargs could give some problems if the list is too large (IIRC)

why exec chmod 8 billion times? no, it won’t; that’s precisely the point of using it.

if i make a new directory inside a directory that’s g+s, will that directory also be g+s ?

yes.

yeah, that would make sense…rsync does it that way. i don’t know what program he’s using…

excellent

how can i analyze this? wodim -scanbus just says 0,0,0 0) ‘HL-DT-ST’ ‘DVDRAM GSA-H62L ‘ ‘DL00′ Removable CD-ROM

hmm yea. guess i remembered wrong then :-/

excellent, it worked thanks a lot!

hrm… not sure what the deal is then

yeah this thing’s acting real weird… i’m thinking of attempting a firmware update

but yeah, your command was correct np no worries; xargs is rather useful though (and if it ever gets the number of commands wrong, you can use -n to “fix” it, after filing a bug, of course.)

scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray why does the kernel thinks it’s MMC? sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray

hiya, does anybody know why I don’t seem to have an eth0? I just have eth1 and eth2 it seems

hi, if I set a host-name option in dhcpd.conf for each client (option host-name “test”), how do I get the client to set this hostname as his hostname

fredl, do you have 3 network cards and eth0 isn’t there or is debian just showing eth 1 and 2?

well I think one device is recognized as a wireless interface and I have two wired interfaces in it, one that’s onboard, and one that I added yesterday I hadn’t looked at the network devices before installing the second wired nic yet so I don’t know if it was like that immediately after instalation

maybe 1 hasn’t been detected

dunno. not that it makes a big difference, I’d just like to know.

hola

wait, I found something… in dmesg it says udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth2

alguien sabe donde anda el canal de wifislax?

why would it do that though I wonder.

/msg apt br

gracias (spanish)

oh, then /msg dpkg es

ok thank’s

aha. it’s because I added a NIC, apparently. z25_persistent-net.rules

!tell hathat -about root

hello what mainboard should I buy for AM2 cpu to have all fully working?

nf5 works for me great. [non-sli] the only issue is using the onboard gig eth with a pci realtek, could only use one at a time

is there any board that do works fully without any “but” or “almost”?

there does not exist a board that does not have its own little bugs/idiosyncies [i’m using a asus nforce 570 ultra FWIW]

boards of canada are pretty good

most boards work without a butt

i imagine in the high end is where you’d have trouble, with things like integrated blue tooth

hi

what mobo do you use?

asus m2n-e

Are the non-free icons in Iceweasel’s Search bar a non-issue?

hi http://pastebin.com/d1ea4c69a google does not turn up anything - does anyone have any ideas?

is it actually causing a problem? could just be some silly hotkeys on your keyboard

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-269520.html (pardon the ubuntu reference)

hello, anyone where debian store default emacs settings for all user? hello, anyone here know where debian store default emacs settings for all user?

/etc/

the filename /etc/?

look in there

all right thank you do you know the filename

there’s many files, and depnds on your emacs version.. use ls

it isn’t apparently, but as we both know looks can be deceiving

thank you

why 21 cds?

you can get three DVDs if you prefer

/etc/emacs21/site-start.d /etc/emacs/site-start.d there are two dir for emacs

DocPlatypus i do not have dvd rom

How can I tell screen to leave my xterm (rxvt…) title alone?

Im unsure which one

i can not see i386 insaller guide for Etch

Oops, found it in README.Debian, never mind.

okay, or you could just install over the net instead of downloading everything first

hey al is there a package joomla? to install joomla with apt-get?

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