I need a regex that’ll take the name from this line … rel=’bppost’Connollys Sea Horse Tavern/a \’bppost\’(.*)(2) shouldn’t that work no ? or I mean … \’bppost\’(.*)(1)

/rel=\’bppost\’(.*?)/a

http://www.golftrader.ie/testdirectory/advert.php?ad_id=149 the images seem to be popping up rather than the lightbox

?

I guess…

and how do you make these multiple colums of text without using floats like the http://digg.com front page?

set the widths and display:inline ?

is there a way to have a certain css class not inherit the style of one of it’s parents? this keeps evading me today. Can’t seem to tell a certain CSS class not to inherit styles from one of it’s parents.

and set inline on the div!

Determinist, does position absolute work for that at all?

wanderingii, huh?

actually nm did you try #css?

nope i usually come here for such things nm, figured it out tho. thanks

http://validator.w3.org/ — Is the “logo” supposed to look like that? I mean… it has three rounded corners and one sharp corner. The upper-right corner is not rounded.

the blue box containing it, y’mean?

Yes.

I doubt it was originally intended if you look, you’ll see that the NW curve is completed by the actual logo ‘img’ since there isn’t another img on the right, there isn’t a curve at NE however, there is http://validator.w3.org/images/head-tr.png so maybe they missed something of their own design :p

Hmm. I also noticed that if you turn off styling, you get a submit button saying “Check” AND a link saying “Check”.

fix: #tagline { background: url(../images/head-br.png) no-repeat right bottom; } #banner { background: #365D95 url(../images/head-tr.png) no-repeat right top !important; } hrmmm, that’s strange JS perhaps, hrmmm yup, bad JS redundant and bad JS

W3 ain’t so good role models.

and don’t frown on IRC they never have been

They are like an abusive father.

but y’know, they probably let whatever annoying kid screamed the loudest code this frontend but y’know, they probably let whatever annoying kid screamed the loudest code this frontend stop that…

What? Why? I am sad.

because it’s fucking annoying you’re acting like a 12 year old girl

y u sey dat dawg I wish I were one. Because then I would collect Barbie dolls and have tea parties, which have got to be more fun than hacking crappy Web standards.

oh fuck me, 359 emails for my w3c email addy :p guess some spamhauses troll those pages

hi, is iframe standard? I would like to embed a page in a page

li, by default is 100% of the viewport. I’d like to underline a class of li, but only the words themselves, not the entire width … how do I do this?

or is there something better?

if it’s one list, yeah, doesn’t really matter if it’s a set, you might just make a second layer ullititle1ulli…/li/ul/lili…/li/ul

can I set the height of a iframe in a dynamic way, so that if the page embedded is Xpx long the iframe will not be longer than that

yeah, max-height

element which Google uses?

Surely there must be a CSS way to accomplish this? Basically, if you resize the viewport, a menu item called “Why choose ACME?” should never wrap one or two of the words, but all of them together.

white-space: nowrap; iirc

Hmmm… didn’t quite have the desired effect. It is “too aggressive”. It doesn’t wrap any of the menu items now.

Well, assign it only to the element you want it to be on er meh. dunno.

Is abbr or acronym needed if you link to a Web page for an acronym/abbreviation which explains it?

are there browsers which have some kind of support for html5 yet?

oh, yes. Most of the ‘big’ ones support large chunks. I’d say so. It depends on your reasons and motives.

nice nick LOL

so safari and opera will do the trick? (i want to play around with html5 and css3 just for kicks :P)

for all dates and times on our site.

define ‘trick’? They’ll support bits and pieces - everything that was in HTML 4, everything that wasn’t but has been included in HTML 5, and some of the things proposed for it.

Sounds like complete madness to support a spec which isn’t even finished.

Ah. Misunderstanding - a href=”uri-to-sensible-description-of-what-utc-is”abbr title=”expansion-of-the abbreviation-utc”UTC/abbrev/a

Oh…

the abbr or acronym is there to explain what the *abbreviation* (or acronym) expand to. *shrugs* I consider html 5 a complete waste of time, but there you go. FF even support canvas, I believe.

thats exactly what i’m after wasting some time

Then look at the source of W3 pages. If you think you’re gonna learn some good practice — think again.

http://timtux.net/tmp/tuxblog/?page=posts&post=10 is it any way to get that to break even if its inside a pre

No, that’s the point of preformatting. Word wrapping and preformatting are contradictory.

God damnit well i want everything except that preformatted

any of you used the Google Maps API? is it possible to find the lat/lng from an address?

Hmm… MSIE shows irc:// links as “page could not be displayed”. Worrying. It should say “I cannot understand this protocol” or ask for a program to use to open it. :/

no they should dump all that shit Just opens for new security holes.

Who should dump all what shit?

with irc:// and such skype:// msn://

You’re advocating we abandon URL schemes?

haha

nope, just those calling external applications

I like ‘em.

Eh? They should be used MUCH MORE. And they don’t “call external applications”.

well, what do they do then? like icq:// ? aim* s/icq/aim

Unterminated s statement

hahaha s/s\/icq\/aim/s\/icq\/aim\//

thanks

as far as i remember , when i was using windows, like 6 years ago or something. You could “click” on links such as mirc://irc.quakenet.org:6667 in IE. And pooof mirc opend and there is bigger issues in IE then “oh it shows me a \”page could not be displayed\”" they should maybe abandom the whole microsoft software suite, would give me alot less troubles, more jobs and less entrys on milw0rm

And replace it with what? Linsux?

no, they just don’t get computers it’d be 100x better

is there something wrong with this? input type=”file” value=”" name=”icon” it’s not getting passed with the POST data

http://www.lclark.edu/~hesdaile/pictures/baby.jpg

cat /home/tim/.irclogs/freenode/#web.log |grep ” gfhghgfhfg” |tail -n1| sed ’s/Linsux/With linux/’ yes with linux.

Linux is a kernel. There are a billion distros and none of them work together. Linux is like Vista, but worse.

define work together?

I see you’re still being stupid :p

But it’s free, so that’s good. Work together as in… have something in common. They all use their own package system and whatnot.

well, thats what ./configure is for.

No standard GUI. It’s a support nightmare.

well, KDE and GNOME is more or less standard. Support is as good as for closes source apps nowdays. closed

I wish there were something like Mac OS X but for free. And for PC. And as popular as Linux.

actually, most distros do have a standard GUI GNOME

Yes… but they don’t all have the same standard.

KDE yes, well, why would they?

Which means “Linux” can mean so many things it’s almost pointless to use the word.

you can’t compare all distros to just Windows XP they’re not equivalents apples and oranges oh, well that much is somewhat true :p

SUSE uses Gnome now, IRC

but there are plenty of generalized situations where ‘Linux’ is fine

You really feel like a second-class citizen when using Linux. Not saying it’s Linux’s fault.

I feel supperiour

I already feel like that using Opera on Windows. Imagine using Opera on Linux.

you are american now?

No?

ops s/now//

they just decided to try and have equal GNOME support imaging using Opera at all :p

ah Opera++

Best browser.

doesn’t use half my ram/CPU

ah, let me modify that apparently there was a movement to replace KDE as default with GNOME

Sounds like youve listend to ballmer to much or something. “LINUX IS COMMUNISM”

and instead they just try to support both now Linux is sort of aligned to communism

That’s odd, I routinely use Opera on Debian..

good

what people forget is that communism != communist russia || communist china

hrm, you’re not a second class citizen, are you?

Adobe bullies Linux users with Flash support, etc. And the list goes on and on.

socialism is more appropiate. reisio:

Not that I know of.

nowadays it’d lead to less confusion among the ignorant, yeah

I didn’t think so either

Adobe bullies everyone

Odd, I don’t feel bullied. My Flash support is fine.

mine too

don’t like it? Stop supporting PDF and Flash

I don’t “support it”.

yeah I feel 800% more productive :p

People do.

I support PDF in a big way, its a great format

my flash also works fine.

do you ever use a PDF or Flash viewer? that’s supporting it :p

hah is there a way to import bookmarks from Firefox to Opera?

Dunno, all I use it for is testing.

evenin’ all

But I would imagine so.

Firefox’s bookmarks are just an XML file

Well, HTML.

and I’d hate to have to copy them over one-by-one

not exactly HTML

Same old HTML format that Netscape has used since day 1.

“HTML”

thats why delicious pwns

(not relying on external services)++

However, ive pretty much stopped to use bookmarks

not sure how delicious is any better than your bookmarks.html file online :p

I always end up with 200, and using none of em anyways

I don’t use them often myself, but for reference for other folk I can remember keywords to find the right one when the site’s title wasn’t utter crap (if I didn’t modify the name while bookmarking)

besides, I sort of enjoy my bookmarks to be kept private

Voté Charles-Alexandre Deschamps (Pour qu’il peut aller en tournoi de skate-board) Vote pour Charche-Alexandre : http://islandproductions.org/blog/?page_id=355Q

We’re spamming channels in French now, eh?

is there something wrong with this? input type=”file” value=”" name=”icon” it’s not getting passed with the POST data

Did you forget an enctype on the form?

form action=”http://localhost:8888/portal_wc/trunk/backend.php/Applications/doEdit” method=”post” enctype=”multipart/form-data”

Firefox 3 will have an SQL-based bookmarks system instead of the HTML format

Nanobot, is that cool?

I agree with the decision

Heh. But will it actually _store_ the bookmarks in sqlite, or simply load/unload it to the HTML format?

It’s easier to add new capabilities to the bookmarks and more easily manage them

Like presently, nothing in FF actually deals with the HTML bookmarks file. It’s just parsed into an RDF graph, and serialized back to the html file.

It will store it in sqlite There will be an .sql file in your profile directory, I believe I think they’re going to have it automatically save an .html version as well for transitional purposes, but it will primarily work with the Mysql version History will also be SQL

SQL++ too bad it lost its front-end status

hum I’m creating a webbased sqlite blog And storing the dbfile so the public can axss dosen’t sound like a good idea to me. Is there any smart way to solove this? (1. the blog is gonna be redistrubuted)

Er, sure. Don’t allow public access to the file.

eh well, thats server side (or .htaccss). way to complicated!

no its permissions or ou could put it out of the docroot

I want everything to be ready to go just by copying the files of the blog. on any webserver with sqlite+php

That seems unreasonably simplistic. Surely some degree of configuring is expected. How will PHP know where the DB file goes?

i want it to be as simplistic as possible setup.php

Perl will tell it :p

ah whatever, i will just skip to store pws in it

somebody is hacking my site they’re editing my index.php5 file how is that even possible they’re adding some kind of javascript thing…apparently norton identifies it as a virus yet as soon as i delete it, the site works fine

perhaps it’s AJAX code that adds editing into the page http://nexodyne.com/showthread.php?t=14736

zaatar, it would help if we could see the page.

it’s not a problem, i’m putting a new site up tomorrow from symfony to codeigniter might be a symfony bug what’s weird is that there’s no user input on the whole site there’s a link to the control panel but w/o login…how can he access it let alone change the file

Perhaps you have a more serious vulnerability then merely simple XSS? Is all your software (Apache/PHP/OpenSSH/whatever) up-to-date?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=chico,+ca&ie=UTF8&ll=39.765612,-121.844956&spn=0.00287,0.005021&t=k&z=18&om=1

Do you have any other sites hosted on the same server?

It’s a person!

Is it really?

link? also, do you guys feel that referrer checking is a valid way of combatting XSRF attacks?

you can’t ever trust referrer checking at best, the results are inconclusive. at worst, you will knowingly be told exactly what you want to hear even when it’s not the truth

I could help as part of a defence in depth strategy I suppose.

in this case i think you can i can’t think of a time when it would not be entirely effective here that’s why i’m asking

Presumably you’re ensuring requests to a page have a referrer from one of your documents. ?

nope i’m ensuring requests don’t come from off-site

hax, well either way it’s not going to be 100% accurate. Browsers do not need to set the referrer at all.

yes, referrer is optional at least, every HTTP spec I have seen does not say it is ever a required header.

well, that’s true

recommended, but not required treating the absence of “Referer:” the same as if it is present but something you don’t want to hear, is at best playing with an unloaded gun, and at worst Russian roulette with a fully loaded pistol

well, that would mean that anyone with their UA not sending a referer would potentially be vulnerable to an XSRF attack

XSRF? English, please?

Cross-site request forgery

CSRF, then

Indeed.

same difference

The X makes it cooler.

well, it’s also called XSS instead of CSS if it’s going in the other direction so it makes sense heh

 

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s/cooler/harder to figure out at first/

it’d be a pretty unreasonable vector to try and use if i did referer checking though because the attack would only work for the extreme minority that have referers turned off in their browsers

Wouldn’t a more sensible option be to use SSL/TLS?

right?

I have Privoxy set to either not give referer or tell you exactly what you want to hear if you’re obnoxious enough

hax, or have proxys between the browsers and you

well at that point, it doesn’t matter anyway

(that strip the referrer header, naturally)

not to open myself up to any kind of attack, but based on the simple premise that it’s really not the Webmaster’s business where I came from

so then the only other thing i can really do is the magic cookie approach as decsribed on the wikipedia page

The Ajaxy method?

AJAX is suck. Client dependency is suck.

and fragile

“Oh man, do I wish the client does what I want it!”

the morons at Codeplex managed to break simple downloads that work fine on Sourceforge and Savannah that way

well, there’d be a few ways to do it i guess

Just a thought, and i’m just about asleep so this might be stupid, but could you not just requre an additional stage in such requests (eg a form with a hidden (randomly generated) id that has to be submitted after visiting that page)

XHR doesnt seem like a bad method yeah, that’s the idea you still need to store it somewhere though i don’t want a giant database of UUIDs though, that doesn’t make any sense

It can be stored with the other session data - CSRF attacks only perform one request. If you require the user clicks an intermediate page to confirm such actions they’re negated, right? s/clicks/submits a form on

then the guy writing the CSRF would just look at the intermediate step and emulate it until they find the right .js file to src

hax, i’m totally not following you here I’m going to take this as a sign that I need to sleep. G’night folks

http://texticle.net/ loook

haha, alright g’night ptlis that sure is a pretty pastebin, Soskel

thanks I designed it all by myself \

On one final note, firefox is using 300Mb and the UI is lagging. I didn’t believe it when people said that it did that

Um… Moreover…

breaks easy when i move the font up though

You can always change your referrer or fake it.

Though, in all fairness i’ve got 50 tabs open and it’s been running for the best part of a month without closing.

why would you want to do that anyway?

dunno, difficulty reading? that doesn’t matter

oh

Designed it yourself with the help of Brisbane? :p

I do it all the time.

And those other mentioned people?

Wait, sleeps

yeah, sleep ptlis you know you want it

mmm sleep

you know what I mean \

i’m thinking about just going with the referer option it doesn’t hurt you if you have referers disabled, it does stop the site from working if you send fake referers, and it discourages anyone from bothering to write a CSRF because there’s not enough reason to do it also, i don’t know how to implement the proper magic-cookie solution cleanly heh

as long as you realize its limitations and how client request headers in general only keep “honest people honest”… go for it

or rather… don’t waste your time with it

well it’s not a situation of keeping honest people honest… it’s a situation where virtually everyone is going to have referer headers on, and you’re only vulnerable to CSRF if they’re off

anyone wanting in will just as easily get in

we’re talking about CSRF

“security through obscurity” — prime example of this

it’s not that at all

… by referer checking? yes

no i don’t think you understand the idea is that if you have my site as the referer or no referer, you can get the JSON from my web service if you have any other referer, you get an error

http://tuxblog.timtux.net/beta/?page=administrator name and password: hejhej i need some creative ideas for the admin selections icons?

Sure, seems reasonable. That or a subnav under the navigation you have already. Depends on how many actions you want to accomodate.

aight Any other ideas? For the whole blog

nice timtux

thanks

oh, apparently CSRF is a bigger problem than i thought

DO RSS AGGREGATORS go by fixed times or counting from whatever time the user initially subscribed to a feed? For deciding when to repoll.

I imagine it depends both on the client and the behavior which the user configures it with.

did you realize that CSRF is such a huge problem?

Default on most clients? It sucks if you’re gonna have 500 fucking requests the exact same second. Regularly. From RSS aggregators.

Eh, only if your servers aren’t able to handle it. And a simple perlbal setup shouldn’t even blink at 500 requests a second.

caching.

Then make it 500,000,000.

Why? That’s not realistic. That guy’s got issues.

do you use django.contrib.csrf.middleware.CsrfMiddleware?

No, but then I also don’t currently have any sites subject to CSRF issues. Well, at least not until SSL can be brute forced in real time.

does ssl hosting entirely solve the problem?

Difficult to hijack a session that you have to decrypt first.

well, if the URLs are predictable, couldn’t someone just request https://yoursite/change_password or something?

Noninteractively? That’d be quite a feat.

how do you figure?

Knowing all the right request data to provide to actually affect a password change?

well, why not? most password changes are just one post or if not a change password, than something else destructive or in the gmail case, getting a contact list from JSON i don’t see how SSL would fix the problem

I was searching for a tool to design database and represent it visually ? Plz,anybody here ?

usually

so I want a tool for designing database and representing it visually

i’ve never wanted to do that

What DB are you using?

mysql

Eh, phpmyadmin should suffice. There are a number of other GUI admin tools for it.

I want to give my mates pic of database

As for diagraming the schema, that’s a separate class of tools.

and so on oh ,sorry

sql2dia might do.

thx

have you seen that lewis black hbo special btw?

Listened to it. And watched the various clips from it on youtube. Awesome. The SATA enclosure I picked up tonight doesn’t have a Vista driver. Linux, of course, supports it just fine.

eSATA?

USB.

wtf? ‘mass storage device’, no? also, why the hell are you running vista? heh

Came with the laptop.

I’d have gotten a refund on it

And I saw little reason to remove it, since once in a great while, I do need Windows for testing.

ah

My time is more valuable than the effort that requires.

you don’t have a copy of XP SP2?

the satisfaction of Microsoft not getting to keep money for a Windows license I would never use is more than worth it to me

In my experience, installing vanilla Windows on laptops never works out well, with all the various proprietary stuff. I’m much more inclined to leave it as is.

heh

I really couldn’t care less about that. I have work to do. I buy one laptop every 4-5 years, that’s all the money MS gets from me.

I haven’t bought new hardware in quite a while will need to soon. I usually build my own boxes

Oh, I’ve bought plenty of hardware. But only my laptop purchases involve MS taxes.

the most recent three PCs I have however are not self-builds I will probably buy from either Madtux or RKC for my laptop

i wish you could build your own laptops

and snag the install DVDs for whatever GNU variant I plan to run from wherever you can buy a barebone and put the components in yourself

doubtful

but really, that’s almost more trouble than it’s worth when most places will go ahead and assemble it I’ve done it before for a friend and for me I’m just going to buy a laptop with a clean HD ideally, *not* a mass-market laptop PC

heh

even if sold to me with clean HD and an affidavit that Microsoft received no royalties mass market usually = junk

i’d normally just go with apple because it’s easiest but now that they’re doing this whole iphone thing i feel i should boycott them

I fail to see the benefit from trusting Apple

they’re just supposed to act ethically

buy their computer, you are stuck buying Mac OS X if you want it or not and there is no such thing as a clone Mac anymore and generally… you just pay more for the damn thing to look pretty I want something to look pretty, I’ll go to art.com

heh

but if I want to get work done, that’s why I buy a computer

i dunno, i like my imac it runs xp and osx, it doesn’t take up much deskroom, it has a fairly nice display, and i didn’t have to build it or get shitty dell components

why is there no company making a computer designed from the ground up to run free software?

no one wants to run free software

What sense would that make?

taking the entire shrinkwrapware pissing contest out of the equation plenty

Making a computer from the ground up to run _software_ is sufficient.

i think one company is on a ‘no trialware’ campaign no *now but i forget who they are

you have (in effect) Microsoft sticking their fingers into PC hardware specs, Apple and the Mac, and… a few others. is Sun still making SPARC gear?

yeah, thats just what i want a sparc that runs nothing heh

or anyone for that matter.

I don’t see MS weakening my computing experience at all.

a SPARC will run a lot of things

it wont run XP or OSX

Except of course for this stupid USB storage enclosure that Vista doesn’t support..

haha i doubt sunos supports it

if you want to buy shrinkwrapped boxes with shiny discs inside, and call that your software, then yes maybe a SPARC will disappoint a USB mass storage class device is a USB mass storage class device that’s the whole reason we have that standardized class so you just plug in a mass storage device anywhere on any operating system and it just works

You’d think. And yet, here before me, is one that doesn’t work in Vista.

then file a bug report with Microsoft’s bug tracker

hahah

Right. That’s really be worth my time. s/be//

heh, i love this southpark episode http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2007/04/05/fortify-javascript-hijacking-fud/ — this is a really interesting article, and i don’t know how accurate it is

“Bob” is kind of an ass.

you know the guy?

No, just critiquing his attitude on his own blog.

oh

Like his response to a polite counterargument to his post, by one of the authors of the paper he’s criticizing.

http://www.cgisecurity.com/lib/XmlHTTPRequest.shtml this is also really interesting so that trashes my whole ‘check the referer’ idea

From what I understand, Django’s CsrfMiddleware approach isn’t too bad, but hardly comprehensive.

yeah, this is a far deeper problem than i thought so here’s what i’ve learned… whether you’re using SSL or not, there’s two possibilties for attack: 1) you have JSON that can be included on a malicious site which exposes sensitive information or 2) you have predictable URLs that someone can make an XHR POST or src GET to that cause some kind of damage/priv-escalation

michael jackson has been nominated for a Nobel peace prize for his donations to charity

no wai

4 years ago.

I think Michael Jackson is merely insane I don’t think he’s a pedophile but you know, I’ll bet the one white glove symbolized his treatments to change his skin color he wanted his other hand to become so pale as to match the glove

ok, i’m gonna throw down a psytrance set hopefully as a demo tape if anyone wants to listen ping http://69.71.234.16:8000/ oops now it’s right err wtf is wrong with icecast today fixed

do?

search engines tend to remove that

Hello! Do you if I can tranfer money from paypal to credit card and from credit card to paypal? *Sorry if I am on a wrong channel!

Um, yeah, we’re not PayPal customer support.

none of you have paypal?

Ass.

Actually mattmcc, it just do happens that I recently got a new job in pay-pal customer support!

Did you move to East Bangalore or other part of India?!

well i have to leave..i am on a wrong place!

So sure NiColasS, if you just priv-msg me credit card number, CVC code, pin number and home address to me, I can organise the transfer now. Capso, nah, I was actually just joshing, I managed to get a Junior developer position! so no more support desk work for me!

I sent my infos to jibberJim to do it thanks! Is it ok now?

all sorted.

Uh… He sent you info?

thanks very much! how much did you send to paypal?

Via some random “work from home payment processors” and western union to some colleagus of mine in Nigeria

ok…bye bye! thanks a lot!

Good financial district they have over in Nigeria.

until the internet crashes - The onion’s internet crash is good on that - http://joost.com/163000k

wtf just happened?

Well, see, there was a full moon a couple nights ago.

oh, that explains it … I guess?

hi all. i’m looking for a way to change the font size used for printing in firefox. i don’t mean for my own site, for everyone - i mean for some site, for me printing it now. like ctrl-+/- does for display… any idea?

WebDev Toolbar? Stylish(?) extension? Firebug?

tried firebug. doesn’t seem to have any effect on printing

lemme try a few things

user style sheet, maybe?

yeah good idea LOL I just crashed Firefox by making WebDev Toolbar change font-size to 12em and then trying print preview

same happened here the first time i tried that with firebug. second time simply had no effect.

WebDev Toolbar seems to work for me (added body { font-size: 2em; } )

i got it to work using a user stylesheet @media print { body { font-size: 6pt ! important; } } thanks

6pt - trying to print a lot of pages?

interestingly, 6pt is quite fine on screen (96dpi), but it’s *tiny* in print… at least in the preview. lemme try a page yea, 6pt is unreadable

table style=”width: 100%; border-image: url(images/stripe5.png) 5 5 5 5 stretch stretch ; padding: 10px;” is there anything wrong there ? i am not able to see the border made from stripe5.png image can some one look into this and let me know any idea ?

don’t you need to give the border a width still?

JibberJim, looks like it will work only with css3 giving border width it shows border and not image

Is there a (linux) tool to show what is happening when you access a web-address? Like showing where it redirects, etc?

one easy way is to use Lynx, with the -source and -mime_headers options.

thanks for the tip. I tried it now and while it does show me the html-code it doesn’t show me from where the page is being served

from *where* it is being served? You mean the original URI?

Windrose, sorry I might be a bit unclear. Lets say example1.com redirects to example2.com - I want to se which IP-adress the site is being served from so I know that way if I’m actually getting example1 or example2’s webpage of course getting the complete, actual/real URL being served would also be nice

ah, I see. What you’d really want is a tool which do all of these things for you in one go. The only one I *know* does that is commercial and subscription-only.

ok, but thanks for helping out

you are quite welcome.

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