hoi, thanks for the beer

Heh, half of Boris’ photos seem to be of food…

Hm. In which role on d.o do you have to be to be able to edit nodes that contain images? I’m in the doc team, but I’m still not able to edit e.g. drupal.org/project/bluebreeze

project != doc, right? but it’s you anyway?

yeah, it’s my project node, but I can’t edit it. Think it’s because it’s full HTML input format so that there can be an img tag. but anyway, we should just allow all doc team members to use full html on all nodes… IMHO

Really? That opens a few doors, hmm

was a change in input formats recently, not all pages have been changed

is there an issue about that or do you know what exactly has been changed?

http://drupal.org/node/165364

Documentation, Misc, normal, active, 1 IRC mention

right, thanks!

there’s a new “documentation” input format

yeah, if you notice a node like that, let me know. project/bluebreeze?

yes!

k one sec.

cool, thanks

done

webchickenator to the rescue

btw: why are you in the channel, like, three times?

are you webchick?

now. i posted Doug’s mail into the search issue on how to test.

lol I was trying out IRC clients. there we go. yep.

the idea was to allow more people into the docs team without giving them too much power.

yeah, fine with me

k

seen morten?

Sorry, I haven’t seen morten.

seen morten*?

mortendk_ was last seen in #drupal-dojo 11 hours 3 min ago saying ‘how come my GF’s cat is always wayking up by this hour?’. he he yeah thats always fun ‘.

ping

lol sorry. I’m still kind of waking up. Hey it was cool to meet you in Barcelona!

likewise it was cool to meet all lullabotters in real life well, most I didn’t meet jeff or matt

Who was the woman who was sitting with you at the end there when you, me, and Jeff Eaton were talking about CCK and all that craziness? Aw. Jeff and Matt are awesome. Next time!

Mayra. She was from France, worked at the American University in Paris, but she lived in the US for many years and was actually born in Mexico if that ain’t an international person !

LOL wow! Is she on drupal.org?

I… I came from Aurora.

Where are you from btw?

it’s supposed to be “ayram8″ but I can’t find her she said she’d get back to me

OK cool.

The Country Of Drupal’s Founder

Nice. ;D

Belgium, that is also known as The Country With the Ever-Crappy Climate it’s like 10-15 degrees Celsius now, with nothing but clouds and lots of rain uit’s like 10-15 degrees Celsius now, with nothing but clouds and lots of rain/u

Spain rocked.

Mornin’ Drupallers

hey michelle

hey

Huh. We have that goin’ on here in Montreal too. But the last two nights have been 30+, so I’m actually ok with that.

30+ in montréal in sept. wow

yeah, it’s broken all-time records afaik Which is rather scary.

or you were still in spain maybe lol

lol maybe I brought some of Spain’s weather back with me.

Yea, I was in SW Ontario last january - there wasn’t a lick of snow until the last day we left it sucked

assignblame.com is a WSOD which is too bad because it sounds entertaining.

my uncle lives in Valencia, I can stay with him for free, but there’s this stupid thing called “school”, and more particularly the classes where you MUST be present. SIGH anyway, I’m off to watching an episode of the 4400 talk to you guys later

Ewww. School. ;( bye, WimLeers

resigned from what?

my job

morning

hi

OMG. I just thought of the best name for a blogging install profile based on Drupal. “WordSmoosh” hahahaha ok sorry, I’m very tired. Hey, snufkin !

hi i feel my mind is being wrapped around the screen. battling to add chunks of text instead of forms into cck, but it hates me

Hm. I thought there was a field module already that did that.

i couldnt find any, though i was quite sure there will be something like this

ping killes

ping

snufkin - Can’t you just do that at the theme level?

hello all I have a question here

Hi all I have a D5 FAPI question if someone can advise . Newish to drupal. I’m trying to implement a generic AJAX/JSON response to a form submission.

how make a term have 2 parent term? how to make a term have 2 parent term?

Whats the best handler to implement to return the preview via JSON .. eg. [’after_build’] ?. And is hook_exit a sensible place to return the redirect after regular submission?

ping

[’#after_build’]*

a, i found a good article about how to make cross vocabulary

you mean creating a new theme function for a new “form” type (which in this case is text)? because this is how i try now. it shows up correctly on the edit page, but not on the view page, its not even in the $node object

I just meant adding it into the .tpl file… Maybe I’m not understanding what you’re doing. I add extra text like help text right into the .tpl

i need to provide a way to place a piece of text into a big form. like helping text, positioned wherever the admin wants.

Oh, so you need someone who doesn’t have access to the theme to be able to place it?

yes so i figured i just create a new field type called text and i provide its theme function in the module

Ah, I see. That I don’t know how to do.

snufkin!!

hey flk

hows it going?

all right, working instead of school :/

has school started?

yeah like two weeks ago

Ok. Need some wording help… Old version: Drupal can periodically check for new versions of your site\’s software (including contributed modules and themes), and alert you to available updates. New version: Drupal can periodically check for new versions of itself and of contributed modules and themes you have installed, and alert you to available updates. I don’t like either one. I basically want to say, “Can tell you if Drupal core or any of your modules and themes need to be updated” but I’m not sure if people just installing drupal know what “Drupal core” is. but “of itself and of contributed modules and themes” is awkward.

does omnigraffle come fully featured w/ OSX?

no, it’s a program that costs a couple hundred dollars. but is sooooo worth it.

how can i include a cck field in a form (programmatically)?

Why isnt it enough that “Drupal can periodically check for updates.” ?

Maybe it is.

for the users its not really meaningful if its core or not i think

She be back!!

well i opened it in my version of OSX… looks like there’s a regular and pro version

huh. I knew OmniOutliner came with OS X but I didn’t know OmniGraffle did.

“Web chicken ate or..” Or what? or turned up the radio?

i don’t need to upgrade. it does the diagramming in the basic version

rweait, say it like “web chicken ate her”

Hey, addisun. You booked for OLF?

OLF?

I’m trying to find best way to do following: use taxonomy terms in dependent dropdown menus - looks like there is a slew of choices, and hoping someone has tried a few

http://onlinux.ca/ Featuring webchick and kbahey from here, and a bunch of Lullabots in asupporting role!

greggles, ontario linux fest

s/addisun/add1sun/ oops.

I’m confused. Wasn’t Mysql search (trip search) folded into 5.x core? Why is there still a 5.x branch for the module?

ah it does some other things - I think it’s explained on the project home page

rweait, i’ve got my plane tickets done

personally, I used trip search in 4.7 but not anymore

need to get the conf reg sorted out

Do it. we need the demographic info for next year.

greggles, ok. cool. Any ideas on setting up a search block that only searches one content type?

there’s a module for that I think

greggles, I figured there would be, I just can’t find it

http://www.ffk-wilkinson.com/ hahah hilarious babies fight back lmao

jscheel, i think views fastsearch can do that?

I know. When I upgraded my server to PHP5, the site broke so I took it down because there wasn’t any point in updating a site that is basically disused.

add1sun, the views fastsearch module?

jscheel, i think so - i’m not really sure since i haven’t actualy used it myself but i think you can create a view (limiting by content type) and then use the fastsearch block

yeah, that totally works

add1sun, cool, thanks. I will check it out. greggles, thanks also.

anon. users can submit nodes, but are required to leave name+email or passw in fields w. that node. A submission will: a) create a new node, b) create a new user/log existing user in.

I’ve seen lots of requests for that… Never seen it done If you figure it out, add me to the list that wants to know I think that would increase people making accounts

hook_elements?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/hook_elements

berkes, that is a good question, id like to know the same berkes, i wonder if it could be done with the workflow module

not only that, its really good for things like little more advanced feedback forms etc.

Would need to work with comments, too, for the forums

workflows won’t allow this, sicne there is no way to capture the user-data.

ahh

I’m thinking someone sees a post they want to comment on but signing up first is a pita so they add their comment and just stick the signup details right there and they’re done

did drupal.org disable their search ?

I will check with the planning/manager if we can build this for a current project.

Anyone have an idea how to have taxonomy specific css?

yes, makes sense for comments too, indeed.

Tell the manager Iwill love him if you can Yeah, looks like it, ABornLeider

ideally one can choose to optionally use openID; to make the step even lower.

berkes - True

/me is his own manager :p

Oh, I thought you ahd to check with the manager

what about this module? http://drupal.org/project/workflow_ng

yea, I have to think if I a) tell the client what they want is a good idea, yet much work, b) Just Do IT.

Oh. Hehe

it does not offer the form/fields.

ahh, well you could just hook into the node and comment submission process

why weren’t you in Barcelona?

talking about voting. I am testing out http://www.fevote.com/tagadelic no time. I am doing overtime, like 90hours a week and still cannot manage the deadlines had three project deliveries (in time) last two weeks. So taking off to Barcelona wasn’t really an option /

maybe you should have a manager. :p

grin. My manager was at Drupalcon Bert

haha well, then we need to talk to Bert so that he doesn’t give you that much work. :p

why are the drupalcons always in random ass far away places?

far away? the flight was just over an hour. :p

we make it a holiday

kinda prevents people like me from going

they are not. Two of them were just around my corner

where are you?

I was in Antwerp back then.

if you want one near you you need to organize one.

barcelona is not far away

an hour? hah! it would take me 7 hours to fly there

next one in china? :P….we need to get the chinese to hand in a good proposal hahah

I vote for Brasil.

how about canadia?

see that is taken by the america’s… i think EU has eu and the east

you mean canada?

no, i mean canadia

dude, where did you disappear off to that night?

which night?

feel free to submit a proposal for canadia

haha

man. If people knew how to write a proper RFC, webdevelopment would be dead easy

most people are eager to go there

kkaefer, im sure all the canadians will be very pleased when i submit a proposal that we go to canadiaville

we had conferences in canada before

yea, i saw that there was one in vancouver that would have been sweet to attend

there were heaps of people from north american in barcelona, jfyi

yea i figured, i was just there this summer on vacation, barcelona is a fun town

I want everyone to come to me, so I say nashville

how about boston?

do-ocracy - do it and it will happen

us is out

when we were walking around near the see…one minute you were there then i get up and half of the group disappeard

Michelle, i wouldn’t say it is out just that some folks prefer not

ABornLeider, never been there, that’s not too far for me though (compared to Barcelona)

were went to the beach

Well, if the Euros won’t come to the US then there’s not much point

that said, i do think that canada is where it iwll land

s/were/we/

Michelle, many people will still come

the true believers

whats wrong with the US?

it is just some that have (good) cause to not wnt to

aah ok, how was it?

eh?

ABornLeider, some people don’t like being fingerprinted judst to visit

hahahah

nice, some peeps actually went swimming. :p

yeah, it’s insulting to be treated like a criminal

i agree, i live here and think its bs

some people don’t like having their building rammed by an airplane

jscheel, no one is saying that is desired no need to get into a big political discussion

when I went from germany to the czevh rep., I had an ak47 pointed in my face by the border security uwhen I went from germany to the czevh rep., I had an ak47 pointed in my face by the border security/u czech on the train

he Zlender *hey

when i was in israel there were armed guards everywhere

add1sun, no bad karma nobody wants to be treated like a criminal

We’ve already proven that only a few of the Europeans won’t come to the US.

hey, it’s great right now, with the euro pulling $1.41

And some number of those won’t go as much because of the expense and distance as anything else.

mate with the exchange the way it is….please just give me the excuse to come over

I can only think of Steven (who won’t come again), Dries (who will always come no matter what), and maybe 4 other Europeans who were at OSCMS

exchange rate*

that might have been due to the fact that this wasn’t perceived as a “real” DrupalCon.

Perhaps.

I don’t have an eidetic memory unfortunately, but OSCMS was still a pretty big con.

us americans need to find a new playground, our dollar is weak everywhere good now, its weak against the CAN $ and the Euro

But saying it’s “proven” is a little bit of a stretch

drupalcon 2008 in the us will be cheap

Eh. We could’ve had a MUCH higher turnout for that than we did, but space was limited. I can’t say I’m hugely concerned.

well, I guess a lot of the US people who wouldn’t come to a Con in the EU would come to the US.

Unfortunately for me, the US is a big place… About the only locations that I could possibly come to are the Twin Cities or Madison/Milwaukee

so, the total number might be the same.

hi

we will be able to afford to buy the lasses drinks easily w00h00

My belief is that the flight across the ocean is a bigger handicap than current US customs policies.

Maybe. It seemed like there were a lot more North Americans at Barcelona than Europeans at OSCMS.

La Crosse could probably handle the con as long as you don’t come during Oktoberfest

not customs, immigration

and american lasses always fall for foreign gentlemen with lots of money.

hahaha

This is, in part, because Barcelona is a very good vacation spot.

True. Sunnyvale? not so much.

god damn, sign me up already ahhaah

heh

flk, its the accent that really does it

Though it’s near San Francisco which rules.

maybe we should have the next drupalcon somewhere i would have an accent, ie, not the us

for most members of EU or EC nations, that’s true.

webchickenator, but not close enough to really make it in SF

How many American Drupal “lasses” are there, though, that aren’t married, gay, or both?

Yes, I realize it’s a problem outside of the EU where visas get difficult.

you missed your chance in Barcelona. All the locals spoke Spanish or Catalan.

Michelle, there were a ton of wmonen in Barca

7%!

beach, drinks and sun does it for majority of people…

just listen to chx’s rants about US visas.

I suspect they were mostly married gay or both, though.

if in america, I would assume it should be somewhere in the east, because of the huge european drupal base

add1sun - Heh, was just joking around

omg did you have a look at the friggin fashipon sense…it was gorgeous darling

Well, I gotta run for a bit… My 2 year old just informed me that he stinks LOL

I suspect most women who go to a tech con don’t go in order to date anyway.

what accent luv? i might need to practive a bit

Regardless of their relationship status.

yea, i was ther this summer though so i was able to have some fun with it. Although, i dont speak a lick of spanish, we need to have it at an english speaking country. How about Australia?

So true.

flk, any UK accent is the bomb over here generally

to get good information, to hack, etc.

New Zeland would be even better

the right geek might do it for em

And if romance does blossom, it’ll be because they had a lot of fun doing normal conferency things.

looking for romance at professional / technical conferences seems like a low productivity activity.

did you notice when we were all meeting for lunch that periodically, one guy would peek in… a little rustling/mumbling… then that same guy and two others would peek in? That was so fricking annoying.

webchickenator, *sigh*

And people wonder “Gee, why aren’t there more women in open source?”

you’d have 10 times the success at your local church or athletic club. webchick/add1: you shoulda just told them off.

Well we were trying to have lunch.

chrisxj, and honestly getting confrontational creates a whole new set of problems

dude churches are awesome place to pull….when the lasses become fed up ofthe bad boys, thats where they hunt

Telling them off would’ve meant less time to shove food in my face and/or talk to the others in attendance.

and misconceptions

yeah. I apologize for the civility-challenged among my Y-chromosone cohort. :-p yeah. I apologize for the civility-challenged among my Y-chromosone cohort. :-p

except for the us

you’re right. But I empathize.

but seriously speaking hunting in con’s is just a ridicolous idea….goddamn it thats what night clubs/pubs/bars are for when the sun goes down

webchickenator, you must always protect the sacred food-stuffing ritual

the cynic in me suggests you might need to leave the planet earth in that case. b the cynic in me suggests you might need to leave the planet earth in that case. :-)/b

chrisxj, i agree - “guarantee” is just a word

don’t worry. if i poked in, i would have wanted to come eat with you.

other than stuffing myself with redbull that is

well…

yes…I’m quite sure of that…

speaking of food, i believe it is donut time

heh

jeez, i don’t know if that’s an insult or a happy jab g

there are countries which are fairly good at this

krispy kremes?

flk, of course!

name 3. I’d like to live there, too.

got me a dozen

man, it is really hard to not get drawn into a theo/political discussion

your speaking my language

the thing that was interesting to me is that at all of the hotels in france/spain they wanted a copy of my passport and/or the number

most european countries

but, I think I will keep my mouth shut

to worry about fingerprinting while ignoring the passport tracking seems inconsistent

because I’d rather not fight

I’d rather be fingerprinted at the border than tracked at every hotel

that’s pretty normal for international travel in my experience.

I can always get a new passport. I can’t get new fingers.

strange i only got asked my passport 2 times when i was coming an leaving the country

They didn’t even look at my passport in Spain. That was odd.

did you rent any hotels? I know you shared one

EU. Schengen treaty huh? the UK is not part of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement

i can send few dodgy ppl your way

yeah

the UK is barely in the EU. :p

so, who maintains buddylist hmmm? hmmmm?

buddylist maintains itself! and very very poorly

:p

did you know the 4.7 version of og2list has a couple of update functions in the install file named devel_update_*()?

really?

I’m going to development an AI module that will maintain, fix and evolve itself. I’m going to development an AI module that will maintain, fix and evolve itself.

yeah, been dealing wit hbuddylist goodness for a few days now

yeah. I just enabled the devel module and had everything blow up. I fixed it in our local copy. want an issue on drupal, or is 4.7 too old?

thanks for that t() fix, btw

PathAuto 2 is looking pretty good.

thanks! sometimes I think it’s not :/ punctuation is a real problem…but I’m working on that _right_now_

Haha, I’ll post issues if I find anything else.

issues with patches and I will love you forever

The UK is in the EU’s doorway, one foot in and one foot out. They are in the EU when it suits them and exempt from the EU when it suits them. The UK is in the EU’s doorway, one foot in and one foot out. They are in the EU when it suits them and exempt from the EU when it suits them. uThe UK is in the EU’s doorway, one foot in and one foot out. They are in the EU when it suits them and exempt from the EU when it suits them./u

I guess it should still be fixed.

well, i have a ten year usa visa now, so…

bwah HAHA ahem

yay for chx

pong

please create an issue and write inthere that I’ll commit it, should I not hear otherwise.

ok

exactly.

pm? that mentality rocks, we get all teh goodies lack most of the bad press

sure

Long live the Queen!!

Because “King Charles” Just doesn’t sound right?

lol

do user-specific node queues exist yet? so I could say, “My favourite patches” and control which ones were first, which ones were last, etc?

That’d be awesome! No, nobody’s written smartqueue_user yet

Ok cool.

Hopefully someone will, though, because it’s cool and useful

I believe there is some sort of bookmarks module I think this could be used.

Yeah,there’s views bookmark which is fine. But nodequeues are nice because you can “weight” favourites. Rather than just “here’s a list of things I added”

yeah

A really simple version of smartqueue_user.module could be written in less than 2 hours, I think.

hi

hello!

Does anyone know if there is a better way to display a list of business nodes than using views?

you have a minute for me? I want to work on http://drupal.org/node/177497 this evening, but can you give me a small push in the right direction?

Drupal, menu system, critical, patch (code needs work), 2 IRC mentions

I’ll be damned. Our version was out of date. 4.7 tagged version is correct. Sorry for the bother.

heh, ok

Better how? faster? Easier to maintain? Displaying in a better format?

I had thought that it reminded me of something. :p

when i change my webserver port to anything other than 80 i cant login to the drupal as admin.. how can i fix it?

heh. I’m usually good at keeping modules up to date with CVS but somehow that one got behind.

all of the above. mainly easier to code. basically i want to have a business listings page show up where the url is something/businesses or something/something/businesses

Is ’something’ variable? It’s hard to make recommendations, really, unless you know the whole mess of it. One other option is to roll your own blocks with custom code, but I’m in no way an expert in Drupal… yet. ^_^

anyone?

gimme a few minutes

okido

Any clues why you can’t? Error messages, whichever? This may be more of a #drupal-support issue, though.

i think it has to do with cookies $domain = ‘.’. preg_replace(’`^www.`’, ”, $_SERVER[’HTTP_HOST’]);

If cookies, then all logins should have problems, not just admin.

hey all - any recommendations on putting taxonomy terms into dependent dropdown menus or dependent autofill fields? seems like there’s a million possible approaches. hoping to be steered away from duds - already started down Mooffie’s dropdown menu path, but looks like a lot of work to convert it to use taxonomy terms instead of terms from a custom table.

is this what you want: http://wimleers.com/demo/hierarchical-select

cool WimLeers - I’ll check it out.

‘image’ but it doensn’t work

I need to rename a directory in cvs. can I just mv the whole shebang?

umm….let me think.

WimLeers - this looks great. is there a tutorial someplace?

been a long time since I’ve used CVS other than just the basics.

just install the module: http://drupal.org/project/hierarchical_select the readme is included in the module

wow - feel like I’ve been granted a get out of jail free card! I’ll give it a shot now. Yaaayyyy!

not really urgent.

heh It’s supposed to make dynamic dropdowns *a lot* easier, yes

you can use mv, but everyone’s working dir copies will become invalid when hyou do.

excellent!

so, ideally, they would commit all changes first, rename the dir inside the repository, and then everyone checks out the new location and continues working.

Anyone have any ideas how to have term specific CSS spreadsheets?

I doubt that anybody cares much about that directory.

you might have problems retrieving old releases, too, since they might depend on the name of the directory. but if that’s not an issue here, then no problem.

it only has an incomplete translation of the Burmese translation.

I’d say go for it.

but I used the wrong name for the driectory. there isn#t even a project

seems pretty likely no one will even notice then.

yeah actually, I may not need to rename it at all…

battery of the laptop is almost empty and I’m in the train. I’ll come back later!

ping

pong still not clear what happened on scratch

did you restore the scratch db?

nnewton is in class, we’ll discuss it later. yes

and there are still problems??

the problem is that we don’t know yet what went wrong.

so it was a problem w/ the import/export of the db most likely

has anyone used the views fastsearch 2.x-dev? Is it pretty stable?

I am guessing, that yes.

If comment moderation is enabled, and a comment is edited after it’s published, it should go back into moderation right?

killes, any reason why search module is off on drupal.org? O, never mind

it was off because of some DB troubles. it was forgotten to reenable it. :p

hi all - before i build something custom, i’d like to as if drupal already provides it. I’d like the author of a certain type of node to be able to grant specific users the permission to edit the node. Other users should not be able to edit it. s/as/ask

system_sort_modules_by_info_name, to verbose?

I don’t think there is a module that does specifically that there are quite some node access modules, though did you review them?

kkaefer, i had a cursory look - I’ll peek once more

hi [[

”);

+ if (!isset($edit[’status’])) { + $edit[’status’] = user_access(’post comments without approval’) ? COMMENT_PUBLISHED : COMMENT_NOT_PUBLISHED; + } this makes no sense

whatever)

maybe reformat it into multiple lines but if we use += to load defaults then another if is not really needed okay, it makes sense , it works, just not nice

I only added the if. That patch needs a careful review.

which I am doing but this is the first step i know you added the if , i added the += and I prefer that it’s much less bloated than adding an if for each and every key not to mention faster

it seems that it’s already set for uid=1

http://www.lullabot.com/articles/custom_search_forms_views_and_fastsearch that, combined with views_filterblock gave me exactly what I needed a search block that only searches one content type great stuff

another satisfied customer w00h00

I’ve written about 6 lines of code so far for this site to add a block that lists your most recent private messages other than that, this bad boy has been a breeze it’s almost time for templating

jscheel, rock!

http://php.net/manual/en/ref.runkit.php = scary but useful for debugging the runkit_function_redefine is my personal favorite.

I was wondering if it would be possible and if it might speed up a site to have drupal hosted on one server and the mysql database on a seperate machine?

yes

my other question.. in the cvs listing, when a module is listed as “broken” and “orphan”, what does that refer to exactly?

It implements hook_dickens() ?

*g*

lol

hello does someone know about cross vocabulary?

 

New Zealand Drupal Web Host

 

seen chx

chx was last seen in #drupal 2 min 43 sec ago saying ‘lol’.

chx, pm me please

or, thanks

heine, [blush]

Hi all I have a problem with hook_user … the code I wrote in this hook is properly working (i.e. user creation, user login, etc.), but immediately after, I get a blank page … any ideas ?

from your module

If that doesn’t help check the webserver’s error_log

seriously? i was having an issue with that a few weeks ago my scripts were working on my local machine but when i uploaded it to the server and enabled or disabled a module i would get a blank screen

hitting the memory limit is a popular other cause.

the memory wasnt an issue, i cranked it up to 128mb

Best is always to check the error_log

the drupal error log or apache?

If there’s nothing in there, look for signs of segfaults. The webserver

right so modules have an open php but no closing ?

You can add a closing tag, but it serves no purpose, other then accidentally getting whitespace after it, breaking redirects.

i see i see

hello everybody is there a french drupal channel ?

hi all - anyone have a recommendation for uploading a long taxonomy list? quick search of Drupal site didn’t turn up a good match

there’s a module for batch operations on taxonomy.

gengouser, not that i know of

http://drupal.org/cvs?commit=82466

let me see if i can find it quickly.

gengouser, but there may be a french drupal site?

is multilanguage included in drupal ?

gengouser, http://drupalfr.org/ gengouser, in drupal 6 it is much more incorporated there are modules to do it in Drupal 5

wbmangy, try this http://drupal.org/project/taxonomy_batch_operations

excellent! thanks so much

i tested joomla (not clean code… moreover it s too big…), wordpress (can t make the multilinguage plugin work…), spip (too hard for me) do you think drupal would be for me ?

!!!!!!!!!! yes, yes, YES!

Drupal does a lot of things simply, or at least wit only configuration. I can’t really answer how much more work doing it in French would be, though. That said, there is support for making things easy to translate within drupal - so it’s not like you’ld be trying to translate source code.

is the code generated tableless , accessible and clean ?

how can i theme the product listing page?

the HTML is theme dependent

is it smaller than joomla (i find joomla too heavy)

Garland creates nice HTML

Yes, usually. You can plug in themes to change how the resulting HTML looks, so some of them could contain tables.

contrib theme Zen creates even nicer as PHP code goes, sure we are lightyears ahead of any other PHP FLOSS CMS in code quality and extensibility

chx is the High Priest of Drupal, I think, so listen to him.

ok thanx !

something

joomla is something 10Mo on the server

Garland’s HTML is nice but its CSS is really, really difficult for non-CSS gurus to work with and indeed, it was not designed to be a platform for modification.

I only deemed myself Hgh Priest of the form API

drupal is lighter ?

Drupal core is lighter but there are an uncounted number of contributed modules

will i be able to a simple multilanguage site (in fact something like just 2 differents websites)

you take whatever you need yes we have i18n no it’s not perfect but it’s way better than Joomla Drupal 6 is closing in to perfection even that is not perfect alas

is 6 available ?

joomla is very upsetting to use!

but it’s sooooooo much better Drupal 6 Beta 1 is out with a Beta 2 forthcoming I hope next week I worked really really hard to get that out asap

is it possible to use it for online sites ? or just development, test

It’s beta.

do you know a multilanguage site running drupal ?

do you?

no

http://implant-assistant.ru/ ? http://drupal.org/node/115344

1 IRC mention

do it programatically

do you see my messages ?

indymedia.be (any belgium drupal site, probably)

Any plans to take d.o multi language?

i ignore them private messaging someone without asking is rude

could you look at my messages sorry for not having asked before

nope one thing is that i am helping you with offtopic questions in #drupal because what you ask belongs to #drupal-support but at least that’s visible to many users pm is out of question

oh id not know drupal-support

support?

Please direct support questions to the volunteers in #drupal-support or on the Drupal forums. #drupal is a place to discuss and help with code, advocacy, documentation, infrastructure, and pretty much everything else.

as this was mostly advocacy, I answered but more detailed is slipping towards support

okay no problem

review http://drupal.org/node/146466 !

Drupal, search.module, critical, patch (code needs review), 18 IRC mentions

hi everyone. I don’t want to seam spammy, I just found this post in Digg about new Drupal for Facebook Project… there are only 6 diggs so far, can I post a link here if anyone would like to support it without being banned from the chat?

It is rude? I’ve never seen it that way. I’ll try to remember that on this channel.

P.S. I’m not affiliate with the project neither the site the post is posted on… I’m just a Drupla lover

feel free

http://digg.com/programming/New_Project_Aims_to_Bring_Drupal_to_Facebook cool let’s see if takes off

oops, there goes my bandwidth. people really seem to like watching you guys on video

*g*

It’s like porn only without the attractive people and the sex. So actually it’s not much like porn except the bandwidth

pm for help is rude yes

there were no attractive people at drupalcon? Darn, thats the only reason i downloaded those videos :p

unless , of course, you have the means to pay for it, and i do not necessarily mean money, contributions will do like reviewing patches, writing doc and so on but of course, plain old cash to Dries or the Drupal Association works as well.

how stable are the new subscriptions and privatemsg modules? Could I use them on a site in like two months or should i use the old versions?

oh they should be out any time now

Actually there certainly were attractive people at DrupalCon, but no more than you’ll see just walking around in Barcelona.

I will mark em beta this weekend.

I’ve been using them all along and they work fine

cool

well nowpublic.com runs ‘em so aside frm the admin screens which we do not really use they can’t be *that* broken admin screens — i mean user facing admin screens like subscribe to this or that

user options, you mean?

i was surprised that nobody accepted the invitation to get it on in citilab’s unisex restrooms that someone wrote on paper towel next to the message board.

noone was drunk enough during the day

How do you know no one did?

there were no writing on the paper?

because nobody signed up!

Well maybe they just didn’t wanna advertise Tho let’s be honest. A Drupalcon isn’t something that makes me get all sexy I suspect other people share that mentality

I don’t know, man. Once we all started talking about query-builders in core and refactoring the file API, things got pretty hot.

lol

login?

login is http://drupal.org/node/115889

how do i create a separate login page?

Isn’t that login issue dead?

forget login

I’ve forgotten about login.

nycphper: support?

Please direct support questions to the volunteers in #drupal-support or on the Drupal forums. #drupal is a place to discuss and help with code, advocacy, documentation, infrastructure, and pretty much everything else.

Or do you mean, “How can I code a module that intercepts the user login form?” bOr do you mean, “How can I code a module that intercepts the user login form?”/b ubOr do you mean, “How can I code a module that intercepts the user login form?”/b/u

heya, Michelle how’s the tummy/baby/whatever-stage-you’re-at-now?

Wow, the subscrib issue page and Opera do not like each other Josh is fine. Sleeping on my lap

Awww. How old now?

Almost 3 months.. http://temp.shellmultimedia.com/2007-09-26__16-18-48-web.jpg

wow I miss all the interesting stuff when I move

Is that where you’ve been?

well, I moved in late June, but I haven’t been online much since

He was born July 2

I’ve been getting my web dev business back on track, dealing with family stuff, and staying with family with dodgy satellite internet so, not on IRC much Awww.

Probably better for you… IRC is a time sink

wow, that pic is too cute, did you do that yourself?

I’ve had 45 minutes of both boys sleeping and still got nothing done Yeah, yesterday

heh

My friend helped with spotting… Tipsy baby

hehe

drupal_get_js?

http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/drupal_get_js

Someone needs to teach Druplicon to submit patches

heh if only! I need to get back to the patch queue and do some work… I haven’t done anything useful this week The little one was sick M-W, and now he’s better and I have it.

Awww

If I have a custom Preview display that has the preview display the full node…is there any specific reason why it might not display a taxonomy term?

it could have been worse — we could have had it at the same time!

seen merlinofchaos?

merlinofchaos was last seen in #drupal 23 min 52 sec ago saying ‘I suspect other people share that mentality’.

Yeah, true Ok, I’d better stop chatting and get something done… I’ve got maybe 30 mins left of the toddler’s nap if I’m lucky

Is there a function to check if a node is a part of a vocabulary?

If you have the node object, the taxonomy/vocabulary data is recorded in it, I believe.

hehe good luck Michelle !

why is this URL cutoff? http://www.angrydonuts.com/why_node_queue_is_an_important_m

all his URLs are cutoff

I see. He must be running low on ascii-bits. Maybe Sprout ate them all?

naw, she ate an hour ago or so

you have an alert on Sprout or what ?

hehe No, I just happened to look back. I’ve been doing my actual job stuff for a while

Opinions please. Should this page on dpring_r() snippet remain in the HowTo section, or does it make more sense to turn it into an actual handbook page called /Contrib Modules/Devel and add some helpful text about dsm() as well? http://drupal.org/node/174575

4 IRC mentions

I’m not so sure this should be considered a “snippet”

more docs is always better and i agree in general

jcfiala, I can’t find 5.x node object documented anywhere. The 4.6 one doesn’t have taxonomy information.

Would you call an if (module_exists(devel)) { dprint_r($_SESSION); an actuall snippet?

Limits on the URL by pathauto

Best plan may be to use print_r to have a node dumped to screen, and look through that. That’s what I usually do.

no.

stupid Pathauto. Always getting in the way of progress… ;

I could probably have made it longer

jcfiala, OK, thanks, I’ll try that

Would you consider dprint_r(0 and dsm() elemets of a Book page on devel.module? *about devel.module

looking for help creating a NEW node, based on the data collected when the user is adding a new node… (also using CCK node_reference)

a begining yes

Hum de dum. Simpletest documentation is not keeping up with changes in the code.

Cool.

hi, does someone knows the state of an e-commerce - Module?

thanks for volunteering to up-to-date the simpletest documentation

Actually, I’m writing documentation locally to try and summarize how to use simpletest for our company. It’s spread across about three web pages. So, you know, that may actually happen. Although I have no clue how to do such.

Ooh then helping update the simpletest documentation could dovetail nicely with work you’re already doing.

Is there documentation on how to update documentation?

It depends on where the documentation is. If it’s handbooks on drupal.org, you need to join the documentation team and that’ll get you edit rights on d.o; if it’s on api.drupal.org then it is in CVS and you simply need to check in changes in contributions/docs/developer To join the documentation team, join the documentation mailing list, and then post an issue on drupal.org in the Drupal project against Documentation requesting to join the team.

Hmm… joy another mailing list. *goes off to google*

drupal.org/lists

VIp to acall bah wrong keyboard

Is your LOLcat sitting on keyboard #2? Boy are YOU in for some head trauma!

That depends. Is Sprout a LOLcat?

hahahahaha

i can haz milkssss

http://www.lolpix.com/pictures/18/Funny_Pictures_129.htm

where are those numbers listed?

http://www.slideshare.net/tag/drupalconbarcelona2007 It’s in the info beneath each presentation icon er, thumbnail I guess

Morbus prolly has a script that contrasts merlinofchaos vs. eaton in Powerpoint Slide quantities?

That’d be funny Note that eaton would totally win anything involving Morbus there Because eaton’s slides have japanese transformers and ewoks dancing

Earl’s already has 100 more views than mine, and it’s been up for a few days less… I can see where this is going

Yours didn’t start getting views until you added them to the tag, really Though the gap hasn’t actually been closing, I have a 50 view advantage because I embedded them on a group post Also, I predict people will watch your slides now just because of the ewoks.

hmmm i thought it only said that the ewoks began dancing there are actually dancing ewok pictures in there??

Yeah, I didn’t actually include the video clips in the slides that I posted… bYeah, I didn’t actually include the video clips in the slides that I posted…/b alas, alack.

ah i missed your pres

the version that played at drupalcon had about 4 minutes of Return Of The Jedi embedded

‘cos i was , you know, speaking is that… legal? above 30 seconds, I doubt.

Yes, the PHP5 stuff …. I was sad to missed that…

but fun nonetheless.

most likely TOTALLY illegal.

Oh well.

But about 3.5 minutes of it was credits.

hah

And I have the feeling that “Airing The Credits To RotJ” is low on the list of Lucasart’s legal dept. er, Lucasfilm

Still, a gutsy move, considering that we know George Lucas uses Drupal. and could have… minions…

Oh, man, that’s RIGHT

hello chx do you remember me ? i spoke 2 hours with you i manage to connect from my univerity behind firewall

If I’m killed in a supicious Sandcrawler “accident” you all know what really happened.

Can someone else deal with this guy? http://drupal.org/node/178911

which is the best multilanguague mean ?

Apparently I wasn’t oblique enough.

Drupal, node system, critical, active, 3 IRC mentions

Or else I misunderstood.

let me.

drupal is so light….

OH dear. When someone exhausts webchick’s patience, it is bad.

so nice…

I just him a short nastygram *sent

At Last! We have a devel module handbook page which explains both dprint_r AND dsm() !! http://drupal.org/node/174575

LOL he hasn’t exhausted my patience, I just don’t think I can explain it any clearer than I already did. bLOL he hasn’t exhausted my patience, I just don’t think I can explain it any clearer than I already did./b

5 IRC mentions

woohoo!! Thanks!!!

ahh

did you ever happen to track down why book pages are now showing authors? Was this something sepeck changed?

webchick, yees

Somebody better double-check my definition of dsm(0 though, cause I’m ne dev. I just abuse the snot out of the function to find out waht it can do

he wanted to see… something

Was there an issue or soemthing?

i really still don’t know why he did it not that i know of

Or a mail on the docs list where this was discussed?

It’s cause he’s trying to keep track of stuff as he moves it around

which is the best multilang solution for drupal ?

Cos it seems like a big enough change we ought to discuss.

Senpai, ??

It’s not perm

support?

Please direct support questions to the volunteers in #drupal-support or on the Drupal forums. #drupal is a place to discuss and help with code, advocacy, documentation, infrastructure, and pretty much everything else.

^^

Feels like a stupid question, but the bottom preview/submit buttons for nodes aren’t wrapped in a div like the ones on top…so how could I right-align them?

i don’t understand how that is helpful

please respect the channel topic.

bug. fixed in Drupal 6. sorry.

Awe, that’s it? *cry*

I just posted a reply in that thread and set it to by design.

you need a new theme_node_form implementation.

It’s far easier for the brain to remember a page’s content if you also remember who wrote it. Imagine glancing at 500 pages one after the other…

i’m in the midst of recording stuff so i’m gonna duck out again for a bit

i sent the guy a contact mail nastygram

heh

Right. Recoring stuff. I should be doing that too.

Any idea if there is one up somewhere?

I am 100% he won’t post a followup.

He doesn’t need a *nastygram* He just needs a clue bat.

do you see my messages ? i cannot see them !

No he doesn’t. He needs a solid explanation for what he’s seeing.

“Re. that issue, if you do not stop spamming the site, I will block your account. Kind regards, Karoly Negyesi” I was nice.

which is what I *think* I posted, though it was quick

thanks that’s a clue bat.

please elaborate further in #drupal-support

he wasn’t spamming, just asking about something that didn’t make much sense to him.

Maybe more like a clue … nerf ball.

five or six meaningless followups is a spam.

the Clerf Bat

lol

re

I’ve had far, far worse in the Views queue.

just ignore

You do NOT own Views!

lol

close the issue move on with life.

i have problem with irc , so maybe my messages appear twice (or never!) which is the best multilingu solution?

“…”

for drupal ?

I has ownz queue?

Wooooo. http://jeff.viapositiva.net/%E2%98%BA works! And in safari, the path alias even shows up correctly!

multilinguage

Opera too

Sweet.

want a screenshot? or a mugshot?

hahaha that’s awesome

Oh, Firefox. Why can’t you play nicely with my stupid, stupid trick?

http://drupal.org/node/178911 — check his tracker…

Drupal, node system, critical, by design, 4 IRC mentions

eaton!

Jeff Eaton is a one-sided, multidimensional individual who can’t stand to be alone. He hangs out in #drupal working on his pet project, the Voting API, but can also be spotted singing at small clubs in LA. Observe: http://myspace.com/jeffeaton Jeff Eaton is a one-sided, multidimensional individual who can’t stand to be alone. He hangs out in #drupal working on his pet project, the Voting API, but can also be spotted singing at small clubs in LA. Observe: a href=”http://myspace.com/jeffeaton”http://myspace.com/jeffeaton/a

Its cause you didn’t install the smily-face add on for FF2 !

rofl

eaton, you took some v. nice pics.

i told ya he is spamming

aw, thanks! I realized I didn’t get any of you and sprout. Boo!

Esmerel == Mrs. ofchaos?

dammit, i am so changing to uriel

This guy’s been on d.o for less than a day? http://drupal.org/user/188080

LOL @ Mrs. ofchaos

yes yes and unless he obeys my mail , he won’t stay for a second uyes and unless he obeys my mail , he won’t stay for a second/u

eaton, you’ll just have to take some next time!

I’ve got some pics for you, then. Here or PM?

…

I read the intro paragraph from all three issues he filed in his tracker. This one needs a drupal_bat($clue, $incoming)

That’s about the last thing a girl wants to hear on IRC..

ROFL Don’t worry, I know she’s married.

lol I know.. just sounded *really* bad.

Sigh… CCK’s table structure is making me cry again. Anyone happen to know where, besides node_field_instance, it stores what fields are on what types?

Married with children, even

Firefox not showing unicode URLs is actually by design.

either or, doesn’t matter to me

Because it allows for people to construct URLs that look like “paypal.com” without actually being “paypal.com”

hi, just curious, do drupal count subdomain as a seperate domain?

So it was considered a security fix.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7591336@N07/1415225198/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/7591336@N07/1415225486/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/7591336@N07/1415225770/

awwwwwwwwwww cute baby!!!

Awww

doesn’t each CCK content type table have a referential inside it too?

you can look at content_type_foo

killes said it better

I thought I looked at that… double checking

Hee hee. George emailed me a really good one that hasn’t been posted yet, I don’t think. We’ll get it up on crankypenguin though.

Spiffy.

Oh, the field names! Doh! I only looked at the contents Thanks and sorry for the dumb question I was trying to avoid adding these all through the UI

would a major game website using drupal be noteworthy?

Possibly. Playstation Asia is using Drupal, and that was in the news.

London is

btw, my friends adore this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffeaton/1404497080/

oh, cool

http://drupal.org/node/168976 ? i found a piece of this survey on buytaert.net - but theese stats are from only one question

2 IRC mentions

The photos from that first night were pretty low-light, but when I dropped them to B&W they worked out really nicely…

a portion of this is on buytaert.net, I assume a more thorough post is forthcoming.

So I’m trying to theme_node_preview. I’ve got it bouncing the page to my node-edit.tpl.php file and all. Now, I know I can drupal_render each piece and then pick up the slack by doing drupal_render($form)…but is there a way to only theme one part without everything that comes before it? What I want to change is the preview, submit and add a div around them…but I don’t want to have to manually render each piece before it.

Yeah, the framing is nice. The glare on my new non-anti-glare glasses isn’t bad, either.

non-anti-glare?

I believe that CCK builds up an internal cache of that information…

thx

Does Flickr allow you to mak a list of “other peoples’ drupalcon barcelona pics that I ljke” ? wow. typing skills, downhill.

Does anyone know how I can go about editing the (/search/node) page?

yo could make them favorite

I want to place a banner ad below the search results

eaton - Well, it’ll be just as much work to manually add the fields to all the tables as it is to add all the cck fields to the types, I think, so I’ll just suckit up and do it through the UI

I didn’t get the anti-glare coating on the new glasses.

you can hit the star “add to faves.”

yes, but can I categorize them to say what kind of favourite they are?

oh that’s bad

i.e. “Favourite Drupalcon photos, favourite photos of toothpaste…”

unfortunately, yeah. I’m working right now, as we speak, on a solution for simpler field/field instance definition for CCK.

Yea that’s a great photo of you.

maybe drop a mail to flickr and tell them to install views and add some exposed filters

Yeah, I was being cheap and was rushed, since at that point I had only sunglasses.

Actually, Eaton posted a lot of really good photos in general.

haha right on.

Thanks. And yes, he did.

Maybe I’ll install a Drupal site that uses some kind of module to suck in other peoples’ flickr photos so I can tag them how I want.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffeaton/1404497080/ this is indeed god.

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=faves&q=drupalconbarcelona2007&m=tags that would bring up all the tagged photos that are your faves.

eaton - I don’t know how common my case is… I have 10 content types that have mostly the same fields… So now I want to add 5 more fields to all of them as well as make a change to the the config of one field on all of them. Makes me wish it was OO so I could just base them all on a parent type

err. i mean all the photos tagged “drupalcon…” that are your faves.

Since when did I get elevated to the level of deity?

unfortunately,that’s not all of them. Some people took awesome pictures of people but didn’t tag them drupalconbarcelona2007, because they didn’t happen *at* Drupalcon.

support?

Please direct support questions to the volunteers in #drupal-support or on the Drupal forums. #drupal is a place to discuss and help with code, advocacy, documentation, infrastructure, and pretty much everything else.

Well, what I’m hoping for here is to add support for hook_node_info() defining fields, and hook_fields() defining the ’shared’ fields that can be used in multiple content types

And a lot are tagged drupalconbarcelona2007 that are like of scenery and stuff. bAnd a lot are tagged drupalconbarcelona2007 that are like of scenery and stuff./b

eaton - I think you just went over my head, but that’s ok.

He’s talking D7, worry not.

Btw, anyone know where the group photo ended up?

yeah, I was guilty of that…

hello, i have set up different language

actually, CCK Contrib for 6, but…

but how can i translate a page ?

good question!

Does anyone know how I can go about editing the (/search/node) page? I want to place a banner ad below the search results.

i saw it on flickr webchick, ^^

on flickr where?

so how does one begin to search for such a thing?

there are … lots

“drupalcon group photo”?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7591336@N07/1439990945/

under the drupalconbarcelona2007 tag

And this is why flickr annoys me.

I’m just pretty new at digging into Drupal’s code. I know what hook_ stuff is but those in particular I’m not familiar with. No need to explain, though.

i want to “translate” the whole articles (not only “strings”), i really want to have different articles, different menus according to the language

eteetee - Look at the i18n module

Any ideas how I can get the $node-taxonomy object’s vid, and pass it to page.tpl.php?

Just to make sure - to ask to help out with documentation, I have to go to http://drupal.org/node/add/project_issue/drupal/support and file a support issue with the Component of documentation? What data would you suggest I include in the details?

Crell, I saw those as I was crawling through all the photos last night. Yay

Ok, Jamie’s up from his nap. I”m off again.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/garrigos/1448001670/

I just was totally failing to remember who it was that had taken the pictures

That was dinner Friday.

what is the use of the “locale” module just translating the admin interface ?

lol “Adjust geoprivacy” is an option somewhere on flickr

you could use “localizer” module which lets you maintain different versions of blocks/pages I didn’t like it and it had a bunch of bugs so I made my own

Mostly what specific thing you’re interested in helping on, and any questions you may have about how to do that, since it’ll be a good reference for getting you the assistance you need to be useful.

now this sucks. Robert Garrigos uploaded this pic at such a low res.

ok ok ok I read the man, have a trouble, I have a site called www.site.com, now I created a domain called sub.site.com, site.com is setup well, I need to have sub.site.com setup with drupal as well with its own theme - I uploaded settings.php and the theme site to the sub’s directory but that doesn’t seem to work, what am I doing wrong?

1, but if I try to use the $options array, it seems there’s nothing in it.

I swear if I figure this out, I’m gonna have to write up a #default_value for arrays tutorial

eteetee - Yeah,I think so

which one ?

I have to retheme the locations input form (locations module). can someone give me a good starting point or what functions i should be looking into. thanks…

I can’t find this

eaton - You know, I just realized I’m missing the obvious… content copy. I just exported those fields from the one and am copying them into the others.

i tried “locale” module

Are there any informations about Views 2 - is there a D6 alpha version :P? I found only this: http://www.angrydonuts.com/views_2_high_level_design

array(’foo’), I believe.

I would try the former.

There is not yet an alpha version.

array(’foo’, 0) to get the first element in said array. Is that a bad approach?

Oh, dang, that’s stupid. It’s not an argument

does “locale” allow to write different versions of an article, one for each lang ?

Its an element

no. i18n does.

Also, one should never use $options{’1′], even by accident. PHP hates that!

yes, parse error

It makes baby PHP cry?

yup, it sure do!

so

haz curlies bracketz

which one is the best : i18n, localizer, locale ?

localizer is the most well developed

locale is not the same

They all do different things.

i do not know localizer

you happen to be around?

localizer is based off i18n with more options thats my understanding for our european site I was going to use localizer but it sucked in the long run.

go!

so I made my own which is unfortunately owned by the company

is there any way you could re-send my hotel confirmation for ONLinux?

else I’d make a module out of it for you guys

which differents things ?

as it seems to be… missing… nevermind! I spelled the name wrong.

Yours?

when i’m logged in , when i write a new article, i want to have a button

No the name of the hotel

“Write the translation of this article”

I want to create pairs of fields (with multiple values on) - low res JPG + high res TIFF for download - Can CCK fields (like imagefield) have tags?

Secure host?