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geo-rge i spent secure 5 years join money to have one laptop i dont use windows for more then one year i use debian
ahhh….
thats the problem…
i run gimp all the time
Yeah
vbox bug?
[your name] ALL=(ALL) AL” `
every time I do that it happens
and i run icewm
can I hide the error
just because tis annoying
how do you clean these laptop screens
I don’t know, but this problem doesn’t happen under other WMs
without dmgin it
That’s not really a debian question
possibly
lol but im here
im part of this community now :d
do you have only icewm-gnome, or do you also have icewm? there is a lib that doesn’t get pulled in by the -gnome one
what happened to visudo?
apt-get install laptop-screen-utils
lol
http://helios.zombocube.com/debian.jpg
not sure if it would help, but i think it was something that sounded picturesque
Hmm.. click the link or not…
I think icewm-gnome-support is installed, but not used (just shows “IceWM 1.2.32″)); how can I check?
so…can I turn that error message off
lol
or at least hide it
grep over the kernel source and comment out the printk *g*
your joking me…
Then I would have to recompile the kernel…
if I ever even found the line
ther ehas got to be a better way
it’s horribly fast and compact. and about gimp: you mean, this? http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1975/200709211817211400×1050fn2.png
you could hide all the kernel messages. look at the commented kenrel.printk line in /etc/sysctl.conf
How can i make a shell script display the outputs of two commands on the same line?
nab jkigd
try apt-get install icewm icewm-gnome-support ..
uhm
man klogd
umm… paste?
well, I figured that a one-liner would be more useful since his Vbox is spewing crap into his editors.
My keyboard was out of alignment, sorry
If i want “cat aa && cat bb” to display “aabb”
says both are already installed
oh well
geez. “gnome-support.”
how do you mean?
sure… but is that screenshot really icewm?
works here….
ok
I mean the command “paste”
should I deinstall gnome-support?
I uncommented that line jelly
geezus fucking kryst. google “icebuntu icewm”
omg
do I have to reboot for it to take effect
icebuntu? spare me
oh… I made my own theme
which looks like MS Windows
haha
…
hey, ubuntu is bloated, no doubt, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t pretty.
if you’re getting a low memory error, try making the cache smaller?
undesktop, SACRILIDGE I SAY!!!
hey i use stuff from the human icons
Interesting spelling
anyhow
How do I get sudo working
How do I add my account to the sudoers file ?
“low memory”? no, it’s just that IceWM doesn’t react anymore and eats up 100% CPU; but no swapping activity
edit /etc/sudoers properly and add yourself to the sudoers group
sacrilege?
then log out and back in
You know hat I meatn
maddash told you that a couple lines above
Ohh
Lemme check
it’s that “su -c” thing.
that was 2 seperate sudoish things to do, not just one
no need for sudoers group
true
i do not understand how that fills my request…
hi
but i never bothered trying to figure out wtf i just add myself
but nobody else
then log out and back in - hm, was that to me?
output of each command into each own output file, then paste them
if you’re the sudo dude
then not
how do i do that?
what is the name of the base kde package, the one without all the extras installed like open office
Ok, this channel is getting too messy for me now, good night -
i find reapplying the theme applies changes to icewm undesktop … i forget how to restart it properly, but the theme seems to do the job
i prefer yamm
but i made my own
some_file
nvm.
figured out how i can do it another way
bash faq has all sorts of tips for shell scripts
hm, I didn’t get what you said about themes… it wasn’t related to the GIMP problem I think
!bash faq
bash faq is probably http://wooledge.org/mywiki/BashFaq
also, if you use X inside the wm you won’t see the console messages
vm*
I am making a wanted Poster but i cannot find a Western Writting font, where can i find such ?
Got a quick question, how do I update my whole system, I’ve been running apt-get update but that isn’t installing any updates or anything like that.
if i have X, how do i get my cmd interface open?
upgrade, not update
also, there’s this loglevel thing: you can supress console messages based on their “log level”, but I don’t know anything about that
apt-get upgrade or aptitude upgrade
is that etch or what, and have you ever apt-get dist-upgrade -ed yet? gimp+icewm work flawlessly for me on both lenny and sid, on 2 seperate boxes
Oh and what is dist-upgrade then?
start xterm?
you mean a tty? c+a+f{1-4}
I use debian unstable (always recent), and the problem persists for quite a while now
uI use debian unstable (always recent), and the problem persists for quite a while now/u
why would you run unstable??
of course it’s possible that that this problem is due to my configuration, but then I don’t know why or what
once you go sid you can never go back
well, what would you run?
everything else sucks
Apache cant be installed via Debian 4.0 - http://rafb.net/p/5ioC8a35.html
s/sid/black/
it’s like you can never be a virgin again
literally. CAN NEVER GO BACK.
lol
I agree; going back to such old software is _boring_.
I’m running testing. it keeps me close to the edge, but doesn’t hurl me to the rock below.
rocks*
It’s stable “enough.”
well you can change sources to testing and just wait… it works
some say the automatism in testing make it more “dangerous” than unstable
How can I find out what version of mod_perl I have installed on an etch server?
i put testing on the laptop
but that was ‘just in case’
it’s old and well supported though
non-nvidia
it’s just that if you have Debian Stable, you might not get new software so fast… which is silly if a new version solves bugs or some major drawbacks
backports.
oh well… why not use unstable in the first place? it’d be ok, if backports were more official
often there isn’t even a backport etc.
because the rest of the packages in stable are actually more stable than sid.
that might be true… OTOH, how smooth are updates to new Debian releases if you already have installed dozens of backports?
I accidently rm’ed a folder containing all sorts of crap, from mp3’s to porn movies, that I’d like to retrive. Can someone suggest a program for undeleting my files?
depends on the filesystem you’re using.
!undelete
it has been said that undelete is great with Midnight Commander (mc). Just unmount the fs and select “Undelete files” in mc, or doesn’t work for journalled filesystems.
sorry, ext3
and sorry for me it seems
see undeleting
safe delete has been disable so what is there to undelete?
see undeleting
okay, dondelelcaro
why shouldn’t undelete work with ext3?
it’s journalized
If i have a config file, and it says for example “A = B”, i only want do display the B? But if i change the B to an A, it will display the A instead.
because it’s a journaling filesystem and it’s not clear exactly where the inodes have gone; feel free to write one if you want.
ist “undernet” dead?
sure, but has the same on disk format as ext2
is that possible?
.bashrc && mkdir -p ${HOME}/.trash ‘
actually, you’re better off just prelinking libtrash
s/prelink/preload/
haha, but that’s quite dirty
aw, geez, yet ANOTHER package?
should be in the kernel IMHO
it’s just a small library that overrides unlink
another gentoo issue?
I wanted something like that ages ago… but in this case it’s more then 200gigs… so that wouldn’t be ideal
hm. I just manned unlink. how’s rm different from unlink?
ok, so i’ve got a basic debain installation done, and i have 2 partitions on two seperate disks that i want mounted as 1 directory, /home/, can it be done ?
sure
kind of.
dpkg, gentoosmite maddash
unlink is the actual system call
jetscreamer, how ?
rm calls unlink
man 2 unlink; for details
so what if I “alias rm=’unlink $@’ “?
!lvm
hmm… lvm is at http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm, Logical Volume Manager for Linux, or ask me about lvm_tutorial, or extremely sexy. almost as sexy as Theo
IMHO the filesystem should preserve the most recently deleted files and only delete them “actually” if there’s no free space left for new files
I’m quite surprised that there isnt a “standard” app for handling this kind of situation
no such manpage
make it so.
engage warp drive!
that’s the unlink command, *not* the unlink() system call in libc6.
!installit
*** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you’ve been told to use isn’t there, install it. Also ask me about search. if someone suggests an application to you, it’s highly likely that it’s
available via apt-get
gravity drive
open a portal to hell
heh
except for allocating new blocks it’d be a trivial hack if you’re experienced, I guess
the library overrides the unlink (and unlinkat and rename and renameat) system calls so it works for everything, not just the command line.
neat
(it still doesn’t save you from truncating your files of course, but…)
maddash is one who believe that gentoo is the ultimative distro…
‘truncating’? it’d be just like windows, right?
you wasting your time
actually, I don’t
but if you delete files from a mountpoint unlike your home dir, it has to move files, I guess
hm
sure; I’m actually not sure where it sticks the files, having never bothered to use it myself
debian, plus a few healthy options to allow a recompile (THAT ACTUALLY WORK [*finger Julien Danjou*]) is the ultimate distro.)
wooooooooo libtrash! messy alias, begone!
messy preload, come
messy period
Greets, everyone…
770 other people say “hello contrast83!”
I’ve got a binary, a .desktop file and an icon for a program which I want to put into a checkinstall package. Could someone point me in the direction where I could find out how to set up a makefile that’ll allow me to do this?
usually an undelete feature is a per-filesystem entity.. I.e. each filesystem mounted has its own undelete settings.. percentage of FS to use, location on fs to keep files.. etc
though like dondelelcaro, I’ve never used this particular one
hi all. for the past few months I’ve been getting sporadic kernel panics that freeze the server. they are completely random and one moment all is fine and the next it’s frozen. how can I figure out what’s going on?
mem test
may not be the cause, but its a good starting point
3 /bin/su.. With the ’s’
troubled, i typed mem test and it said mem is not a known command
/msg dpkg permissions
heh
!memtest
[memtest] http://www.memtest.org/ . Also check out http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/, or check out the packages memtest86 and memtest86+, or “aptitude install memtest86+” and read
/usr/share/doc/memtest86+, or for cpu temperature testing use the cpuburn package
k
!tell Bbit about root
that sounds a bit threatening…
“cpuburn”
how would I go about using dual core?
buy a dual core cpu
?
I have one I intend to fit
so do it
it should “just work”
i killed a machine with it
all latest debian kernels are smp enabled
!smp
well, smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral
system., or rtfm! http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMP-HOWTO.html, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4’s, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing
at least for a recent version of the kernel
etch kernels are SMP
2.6.18-4 or 5 is in etch and yes it is smp enabled
were all sarge kernels smp?
not sure
no
I know there was a large amount of overhead related to SMP at one point
so as soon as I drop in my x2 tomorrow debian will realise it has two cores to play with?
yes
well, it should
good enough for me thanks abrotman!
How can I make adobe flash player for linux use a different sound card?
i think it uses the alsa oss wrapper
you have to select your soundcard through alsa i think
probably the asound.rc
just a guess
where would I find asound.rc
probably have to make it .. read the man page ..and i’m just guessing .. might want to get a better answer from #alsa
wine has crashed running some windows program which is fine, how do i kill the process as the terminal window has not returned control to me
pkill wine?
hit ctrl-c maybe ?
tried that
pkill works thanks
uhm ok
are there any caveats with which kernel-header is symlinked at the time building a kernel and updating an initramfs or initrd image ??
!tell Bluebit about root
you can’t speak in here as root .. stop tryinh
how effing cool is that ! aptget wine then run wine with some program and it works i mean its just amazing
isn’t it just
its like in windows you are made to feel alienated from the whole thing but with linux you are part of it all
it took me two years to install wine, and i have yet to use it
but then it crashes and you can’t get your terminal back ?
yes but thats because im just fucking about with the win window and the program
the fact that it can run flashfxp connect and download with it
i know i keep going on about it but its fun fun all the way
if your a nerd like me that is
!tell sine about root
!tell sine about selftell
troubled, would it be possible that a bad portion of the hard disk is causing the kernel panics?
lol
i was just testing
the reason i ask is i just went into single user mode and remounted each drive ro and ran fsck
uhm, with vmware server, can I move the guest to another instance of vmware on another machine?
when i got to the third drive in the middle of fsck running, i got the kernel panic
ask #vmware
bad hardware makes anything possible
abrotman, I did, no one home
then wait for them to answre
what’s a “guest”
hey
where is the ‘any’ key
but it’s definitely possible to move a virtual system from one machine to another… it must be, as there exist ready-made debian etc. systems i.e. complete virtual disks for vmware
dude
CutMeOwnThroat, exactly. I think its a case of finding what to google for
vmplayer + debian
where can i get a little debian sticker like the one on my laptop for vista
bwhere can i get a little debian sticker like the one on my laptop for vista/b
cafepress maybe ?
If the VM is shut down or paused, yes, you can move it
why does the harddrive in my laptop make a little click every 2 seconds
There’s an add-on for VMware ESX Server (the expensive high-end one) that allows live migration, i.e. while the VM is running and actively doing stuff
crunch click
ok im being stupid now
think its time for bed
Wyzard, ah nay, live migration not needed.
good night all
Keep in mind that VMware doesn’t virtualize the processor, so if you move to a machine with a different type of processor (i.e. Intel vs. AMD) you should make sure that you’re not using software that depends on the old processor type
That’s especially true if the VM is paused, since running apps might have checked the processor type and selected processor-specific optimized code to use
hi, having trouble with java/iceweasel. followed instructions at java.com and the firefox(iceweasel) plugins site. after install, there is no ‘missing plugins’ message, but no java functionality
Wyzard, no its the same computer, just want to be able to move between 64bit and 32bit base os and still be able to float windows on the top
`sun-java*-plugin`
Use the Debian packages, not Sun’s installer script
you need to add contrib non-free and type aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
oh, i thought the deb package was out of date
That’s fine
(assuming you’re not running 64-bit Windows and moving to a 32-bit processor, of course)
I don’t know which depends on which, but those 3 should be all you need to have JAVA applets etc
Wyzard, nah, do you know what files do I need to move?
I’ve got a binary, a .desktop file and an icon for a program which I want to put into a checkinstall package. Could someone point me in the direction where I could find out how to set up a makefile that’ll allow me to do this?
if you are on amd64 forget about java browser plugin. none exist, either run a 32bit chroot or use ia32libs
the whole directory containing the virtual machine (i.e. subdirectory of ~/vmware, if you keep your VMs in the default place)
so ‘deb http://……………/ etch main non free ?
!non-free
methinks non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the DFSG. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about non-free sources. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about vrms. For the Non-free tracking system, see
http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/
no
goddamit
p4
Wyzard, okay, Ill try
thanks
looks like etch has Java 5 but not Java 6… if you need Java 6, there’s probably a backport of it at backports.org
deb http://…/ etch main contrib non-free
but most things don’t depend on Java 6
iceweasel included?
yes
whats with the M
iceweasel doesn’t depend on java anything… it just loads whatever plugin you install
The sun-java5-plugin should work fine
testing/unstable has Java 6 btw
Wzard
Most IRC clients have tab completion… you can probably just type “wytab”
new enough to debian/linux, no windows to fall back, keeping it simple!
bblrb
what?
sound
sound?
.. doesn’t work
really?
wytab
nope .. nothing
bah, you know what I mean
hehe
Wyzard:
works.
hey
hmm, the GNOME icons seem to have changed recently… the lock overlay for read-only files looks different now
did .20 start trickling into sid ?
yeah
The Clearlooks theme got updated too
What is testing like?
I’m not sure if I like the new gradient on the tabs, but it’s not too bad
Newer stuff, but it breaks occasionally and there are no timely security updates like stable gets
so best not to touch with a barge pole
yeh. all svg IIRC now, and they re-did them
not unless you know wha tyou’re doing
ahh ok
hmm, the audio icon has changed too… now it’s a big eighth note
not bad
why are the images created with mkinitramfs smaller than mkinitrd ?
probably doesn’t include as many unnecessary modules… but mkinitrd is obsolete anyway, and doesn’t work with recent kernels
yes i notice exactly that
It depends on devfs, and that was removed from the kernel in (IIRC) .12 or so
but somehow default is set to mkinitrd i see
Where do you see that?
when i install a new kernel it starts mkinitrd…
not mkinitramfs
hmm
It should be running mkinitramfs-kpkg
It does a sort of autodetection for kernel versions that’s supposed to choose the right tool
but it’d be a good idea to just uninstall mkinitrd if you still have it, since it’s useless now
ok
you mean mkinitrd is just good for 2.2 and 2.4 kernels ?
and early 2.6 kernels
early as 2.6.18 ?
and probably not 2.2 kernels — I don’t think those supported initrds at all
ah ok
2.6.18 won’t work with mkinitrd
so i can safely remove mkinitrd then…
If you’re running etch, yes
i don’t run anything older than etch
As for why it’s running mkinitrd in the first place, make sure you don’t have it configured to do so in /etc/kernel-img.conf — I think it’s possible to set an option in that file which overrides the normal version detection
mkimage variable yes i read on that but i didn’t set it to anythin else
dunno then
and how about the kernel-headers that ly around in /usr/src ? will it be auto determined to which it gets linked to building a kernel or do i have to have the right one symlinked ?
at build time ?
or symlink always the latest ?
err
/lib/modules/${version}/build is a symlink to the appropriate headers directory for that version
It’s provided by the linux-headers packages
oh so i don’t have to set it manually
tools that build modules will look for that by default
/usr/src/linux isn’t used, and doesn’t need to even exist
(though some things will try /usr/src/linux as a fallback if the build symlink is missing)
if ctype.h is not found, what debian package would I install?
libc6 ?
there isn’t a “global” symlink for the latest one, it doesn’t have sens
libc6-dev
ah thanks!
libc6-dev, build-essential is a metapackage that includes that plus some other useful stuff
!tell schemelab about search
something-dev
Install build-essential on any machine where you want to compile stuff
cool. new Debian would pull me through
Library packages don’t contain headers, their corresponding -dev packages do
knew ?
hi. problems with contrib / non-free. sources.list includes deb http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free, but getting stat (no such…)
yes
s/new/knew
sorry
and any system that doesn’t have libc6 installed already has much bigger problems than a lack of ctype.h
uand any system that doesn’t have libc6 installed already has much bigger problems than a lack of ctype.h :-)/u
lol
and you can’t figure out which package you need ?
if i’m running a dns server and my external firewall on the same machine. will an incoming request go through the dns server before teh firewall? or the firewall before the dns server?
generally the toolchain as maintained by debian is very stable even on the unstable debian… otherwise what would they compile with?
Maybe that mirror doesn’t carry contrib and non-free… some don’t
apt-get update && aptitude update
oh, nm, I see what error you mean — abrotman is right
getting no results with sun-java*-bin. looking at using fakeroot and java-package, but can’t currentlyy get them either… i’ll update apt repos
apt-cache search jre
You always have to update after adding sources — that’s what downloads the new list of available packages
now you’re playing with scheme?
geo-rge: playing hard - implementing open source J interpreter
Hello
geo-rge: http://redick.metaperl.com
what’s J
Is there a way that I can reinstall linux in linux without using a cd?
anyone here using vlc ?
!tell SirHerik about debootstrap
yassine maybe
If you have a spare partition its ok
Is Debian intending to relicense its GPLv2 only components?
mooper, i’m trying to install it on my lenny system and i have a broken dependency
vlc isn’t in testing
for what purpose
abrotman, testing == sid?
actually that mirror containts contrib and non-free sections
no
!why is vlc not in testing
vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc
geo-rge, Well, so that they can be linked with GPLv3 packages, amoungst other reasons.
that was it. cheers. kinda disappointed though, hoped there was more to it. might just .deb-ise the bin from sun anyway, sure why not
that would be up to the authors
Is there a way that I can reinstall linux in linux without using a cd?
!tell SirHerik about debootstrap
debian cannot relicense stuff it doesn’t have the copyright to
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
apt didn’;t seem to think so, so unless this deb http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-fre is badly formed / incorrect, i dunno..?
abrotman, that was what confused me
geo-rge, Yes, I know that. But Debian has policies and a forum for reaching a conscencous on these issues?
stupid desktop res
so he’s wrong ..
abrotman, maybe i did not get what they mean there
paste your sources.list file and the output of an apt-get update run
damn
i need your help people
but as far i understood they claim its in the testing
do we have help persons?
i already told you
no you didn’t
yes .. i had the bot tell you about debootstrap
really?
!tell SirHerik about debootstrap
and again!
now you’re going to have to learn the details of debbootstrap
you can also use a floppy drive
abrotman, are you aware of some other similar package (functionality) i could use instead of VLC ?
whats a floppy drive?
a disquete?
totem?
xine ?
abrotman, these are all for recieving a stream not for broadcasting it afaik
!tell abrotman to tell me how to compile debootstrap
xine, mplayer, totem, kaffeine…
well .. maybe you should specify that
nonono, he doesn’t and shouldn’t have to… you are not broken… you can read
but he can if he wants to
i won’t
peppe, abrotman sorry i was behind the broadcasting functionality of VLC
icecast maybe? NFC
why when i try to do ifconfig as a regular user i get “command not found” but it works fine as root
icecast just broadcasts audio
S[o]let: /sbin/ is not in your path
hm, yes, *that* feature is missing from pratically everything (excluding vnc, of course)
well
packages.debian.org doesn’t load
why do you have to compile debootstrap?
just install it
actually it loads fine
it says I have to compile it
peppe, i m only trying to set my home network so it not that bad if its not that 100% working
are you already using debian ?
yes
are you running debian right now?
yes
ok, it’s available as a prebuilt package
strange
I cannot enter that page
you should be able to apt-get install debootstrap
I really like xfce
hi, how can I run baculas configuration script that runs after installing the mydwl version? at the time I did not have mysql running and after it was ther and I tried reinstalling, the configuration script for debian did not run :s
can anyone recommend a lightweight torrent client for debian? it has to have a gui though
bitornado?
dunno if its 2 ts or not
mas187, Aren’t those two requirements mutually exclusive?
lightweight but gooey
Can a wrong X configuration damage a modern LCD-screen ?
garo, I would doubt it.
probably couldn’t set it on fire…
garo, Unless of course it made the user so enraged that he punched it.
ugaro, Unless of course it made the user so enraged that he punched it./u
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward’ my ppp links starts failing every 30 seconds and needs to reconnect (for that period internal computers can route data to the outside and receive data back). I can’t figure out how to keep the ppp connection from failing.
Any ideas?
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward’ my ppp connection becomes stable again
just as a site point… there are debian packages that handle those things for at least a few applications for you
ipmasq is a decent one
like a masq router, is as easy as configure your interfaces and install the package abrotman said
it’ll also do things like recalculate itself on certain events
which is needed for example when your isp’s dhcp server decides to hand yuou a new IP
geo-rge: that sounds helpful, but somewhere isn’t it going to enable forwarding (similar to how I have above) and I’m going to start getting the disconnects again?
well
not sure about this part… but maybe you don’t need any of that? I wasn’t quite sure what you were trying to accomplish
geo-rge: when I do that hosts connected to my ethernet card are able to connect to the outside world (however brief)
so
but if ipmasq will make it easy to set up a more robust router I’ll check it out
you have two eth cards?
yeah
I have ppp0 (outside world via evdo) and eth0 (internal)
and one is for inside and the other for outside?
right
which interface is routed thru for outside connections?
or,
which one has the default route thru a gateway
ppp0
ok, so I guess you would install ipmasq
I’ll give that a try
thanks
and tell it ppp0 is the outside interface (but it should figure it out
)
I see it even has empty rules for when pppd bring the link up
holy god he’s dumb
calling god dumb is blasphemy…
goddumbit!
oh wait that’s bush’s job
I’m newbie. Have a script that validates if field has alpha charachters entered (e.g. [a-zA-Z]) I need to change it so that it validates number range 6-12. I tried [6-12] but that didn’t work. Any suggestions?
tried #bash ?
oh sorry. I thought I was in java.
the version lastest of testing version debian is 2.6.21-8?
uhm .. nope
that’s the latest kernel in testing
so, it’s ok.
though i only have -6
ok
because in a chat somebody tell me that he has the 2.6.21-5 and this version of his distri is more new than in debian testing.
What distro was he referring to?
and keep in mind that testing changes regularly
wodim: OPC failed.
a distri based on debian its nameis gnulinex (www.linex.org), yes i know and today testing is 2.6.21.8
more than 2.6.21-8
2.6.21-8 is not the same thing as 2.6.21.8
different numbering scheme
sorry, i mean 2.6.21-5
maybe the -8 there doesn’t mean the same as the -8 in debian
honestly .. it’s not worth arguing about
if it’s based on debian then the -number means “how many times a new version uploaded”
not quite
but it’s still not worth arguing about
close enought tho to make the point
in this case, yes.
i know it
in many cases of “debian” versus “something else based on debian”
it could be they are the same kernels, IF the kernels are taken directly from debian to be included in whatever dist this is
ok
but that’s probably an unusual case…
if it is the case, that would make it easier
Anyone know if that’s a HW error or wodim config error (above)
not quite… the -8 is the ABI revision; it only changes when an update is made that breaks compatibility with compiled modules
oops, geo-rge ^^^
hello
only a question
that’s not one
where can i download pngtousplash from?
/msg dpkg ask
???
from the internets
A search on package contents on http://packages.debian.org/ doesn’t turn up any packages containing a file called “pngtosplash”
i’m not sure why you’re telling me this
oops
yes, thats right
Maybe it isn’t packaged
sorry, I’m tired and a bit sick today
but i cant the source
bye
please don’t apologise. I think you’re still about 1,000 mistabs agead of me
err, behind me
anyway, i’, probably still drunk from last night
did you gooooogle
?
yes of course
i will try again
you must wear the goggle like conan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgn4CjJCO4 you must watch this to be able to appreciate the goggles
then you too can goggle
i found nothing in google
Searching Google for “pngtosplash” yields a suggestion for “pngtousplash”, which seems to be the actual name of the program
why do non root users need to do /sbin/ifconfig but root can just use ifconfig?
and packages.debian.org says that pngtousplash is not in etch, but it’s in the libusplash-dev package in testing/unstable
/sbin is not in the path of normal users
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ohhhhhh
ok thanks Wyzard
i just did a fresh net install on a inspiron 1100 (which has had no problem before during many debian installs) with a netgear pcmcia wifi card. during install device was recognized and used to preform the net install, however upon first boot,
possible is you had swap space activated on a faulty drive yes since swap = ram. disable swap and try again
system hangs due to a kernel panic while init the hostap driver for the netgear card. i’m assuming this is due to the newer kernel version (since i haven’t installed a linux distro on this machine since the previous version was published. any ideas?
did you find its source?
You mean the source code?
That’d probably be in one of the results in the Google search, but I didn’t look at those results
I just went straight to packages.debian.org when I found that the program is really called “pngtousplash”
how can i easily manage multiple xterm windows, i guess screen i still have issue i have to type around 3 keys to job to the another window
you could use an alternate terminal program which supports tabs, rather than xterm
i’ll search again
Wyzard, thos need 3 keys to chnage the window ..actually you have to scroll to get to the windows .. i use around 20+ windows
to switch
wols gnome-terminal need lots of resource
You’d open multiple tabs in each window rather than lots of windows
Wyzard, yes when windows increase its use lots of memory and cpu .. and make the labtop slow .. but xterm + screen consume less memory .. but the problem i need 4 keys to swith windows
Opening additional terminal windows shouldn’t consume significant amounts of additional memory… it’s not like you’re loading another whole copy of the program into RAM
and having a terminal window open won’t eat up your CPU
Wyzard, gnome-terminal is heavy on resource
not even having lots of them open
sure, because it uses a bunch of libraries, but it’s a big up-front cost and then small cost for each additional window/tab
and I’m sure there are other tabbable terminals besides gnome-terminal
konsole is one
Wyzard, beside i use xfce .. but i don’ t have gnome applications too
XFCE’s terminal is tabbable
xfce4-terminal for one, also not so light; mrxvt is lighter
Looks like it was HW issue. Wiped off lens, burning now.
xfce4’s lets you have the tabs at the side, which I like; I don’t know about others
and that won’t take up much memory when you launch it because the libraries it uses are already in memory (used by the other parts of XFCE) and don’t need to be loaded again
band that won’t take up much memory when you launch it because the libraries it uses are already in memory (used by the other parts of XFCE) and don’t need to be loaded again/b
Wyzard, hmmm
Ctrl-Shift-T to open a tab; Ctrl-PgUp/PgDown to switch between them
Wyzard, hmmm thanks lot let me see ..how it goes
You can name the tabs too — “Set Title” on the Terminal menu
Wyzard, hmmm
Ctrl-Shift-N for a new window, btw
wyard i like the screen .. but
i’m sorry i have one debian etch instalation but like make one upgrade to thesid using the deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib and now i reboot i dont have image in gnome afterlogin and thedirver is the vesalooks ok
itwaorks beford and fine
The default 12pt size is too big IMO; I shrink it to 10pt
What’s the /proc interface to the kernel ring buffer?
Wyzard, oh cool … looks like its good i will use it and see how it goes thanks for the suggestion
Doh! /proc/kmsg
urggg maby is bether i give up linux …
In Soviet Russia, Linux gives up YOU!
if you want unstable… it becomes you and your responsibility to know how to find problems, search for solutions and for the software to install…
in soviet russia, russian reversal joke make you
unstable changes. a lot. how will people know what is now?
karsten right … you just dont know what you are say i think
magic_pinguim, YOU will have to find out. yourself.
maybe to solve, you will have to debug a C or C++ program. or the kernel.
geo-rge well im tryfor allmost 2 mouths put the wireless here
i know thre are software that makes t works fine have drivers and everything … just dont work…
is to stupid
I’m just saying, you might not want unstable.
geo-rge yes buti need need kernel … and the new drivers aplicaiton thtadont come whith kernel that stable use …
dont works
on debian
ok, so maybe you can try newer kernel packages
well, you could debug the kernel
geo-rge i just spent allmost 2mouths try it
or just go back to the previous kernel version?
no sense put unstable in one desktop productions right? lol
I’m not doing wireless
hm… is it time to say !wud? Or would that be impolite?
that, and you are expected to understand things deeply
try ubuntu
hehe
I’m trying to guess what the right hsync and vsync are for my monitor. If I use a higher resolution, should the hsync be lower or higher?
struct they dont care about security … i reallydont like see one recomeneded firewall … in last ubuntu version … whith onebug not yet corrected ….
ubuntu is probably as secure as debian is
for a learning experience maybe security is not so important
and its better for people new to linux
so then you learn some stuff and maybe you dont say things like maybe it is better if a I give up on linux
then you come back to debian later and find it not so frustrating
“Better” is a relative thing. I’m giving Debian to a bunch of undergrad kids. Of course, I’m also their sysadmin, so perhaps my vision is skewed.
Btw, Linux Mint seems like it could get some mindshare, if it consistently works as well as I’ve seen it work setting up all the non-free stuff.
struct sowhy they have one firewall security bug that everyone knows … that the firewall dont run after reboot … and they dont correct it? one firewall they recomended in the distor beford?
no nono forget … that one big mistake …
sometimes certain hardware doesn’t work on linux kernel (which is exclusively where hardware is dealt with)
dont give me tryst
tryst
urgg
“trust”
its better then using windows or mac osx
if you like you can read the debian documentation
geo-rge man one firewall dont run ate the computer reboot? only run manually? you joking you call this security?
it will teach you much about debian and then you will feel more comfortable with it
where can I find this documentation?
http://www.debian.org/doc/
I’m using debian since 4 years but never noticed any documentation
not my problem
What documentation? /usr/share/doc ?
no, you DID need documentation, you just didn’t REALISE ir
t
I wrote “noticed” not “needed”
struct why i want linux ifi cant have wireless (know thta have drivers that work well in the last stable kernel?)
and they notrunning …
ok so dont use linux host then
and /usr/share usually only contains debian changelogs/readmes and docs from the vendor
hello all. anyone knows a good application to monitor multiple cores cpus? Should I use apt-get intall what?
go back to whatever you were using before
(1) I didn’t say that (I think) (2) you need to make very clear what you are saying
+/doc
maybe linux is not for you
struct that what im talking about
monitor them for what ?
is it always like this in here now?
no .. just with people that can’t speak english
hehe
atop is nice
abrotman, cpu usage and that kind of stuff
linux is ONLY FOR WIRELESS. NO video. NO sound. NO compiling anything. the ONLY thing it can do is wireless.
X seems to be able to probe my monitor for hsync settings, or at least something like this seems visible in /var/log/Xorg.1.log, but I can’t interpret these numbers.
abrotman, atop is an X app?
no
that sound right to you?
I have not use atop in some time
hello
struct tostupid have drivers that works for linux … and have so many time to install it and they dont work in on stable version
I ought to try it on my mini-itx system
758 people say hello to suwro
struct i dont need thatin windows … jst a few minutes
is there any method to make iptables list without the headers? (target prot opt source…) ??
Try Linux Mint if you don’t care about freedom.
you do have the choice to use windows… but you pay for that, and you pay with money, and you pay with your rights and your freedoms
And leave us the hell alone.
how is life?
doing well?
??
as well as can be expected i suppose
Hm, ok. I seem to have found something useful.
nobody use iptables in scripts?
maybe ask #iptables ?
umm - good point!
JordiGH so give to me one solution
So I need to take the modelines that X probed and then use these magic modeline numbers to define the hsync in xorg.conf, right?
JordiGH or you dont have solution?
JordiGH or you still dont know put this like i dont know put it …
what?
and you just talking around there …
bla bla bla
one of the main points of using linux in general is you have the ability to find your own solutions
are you on drugs?
Your solution is wireless isn’t working? 1) If you care about freedom, nag the wireless manufacturers to release free drivers 2) if you don’t care, install a distro that doesn’t care about freedom either such as Linux Mint.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline
Nyle nope … just aswaser about someone that talk to me i dont care about freddom because i like opensource but i cant spent so many time or haveing machines stoped because i have drivers but they dont install …
LOL
so we have and we cant use they
LOL
stupid
so don’t use debian
whats the argument?
did you look for evidence that your wireless card can run under linux?
Yes, it’s stupid. But it’s not our fault. It’s the manufacturers’ fault.
BEFORE YOU BOUGHT IT?
eff you see kay off
awe dude.. weak.
i thought it was strong
nyle … i just say … only this —- maby linux it is not for me im tired to try to install this that i dont know why im losing so many time”
maybe you’re right
0 apache2 -k start, what does the S! stand
if you’re not willing to do the hard work
maybe linux is -not- for you
orinoco is nice
now that makes all this a litle stupid oh yes it makes have the drivers and they dont work in stable lolso you cantuse they …
then go use something else
man ps
OR if you’re going to let your mind fizzle and fry every time something bad happens…
maybe linux is -not- for you
“unexpected IRQ trap at vector 50 hostap_cs: index 0×01: , irq 3, blah blah prism2_hw_init: initialized in 0 ms” when my pcmcia wifi card is inserted and the system freezes on boot. if the card isn’t in system starts fine. anyone have any ideas?
i’m having a problem with one of my apache2 servers, one of them, the working one has just an S, this one has a S1
in all the time you’ve been here during this conversation, what progress have you made in trying to find and solve the problem?
i’m wondering if this could have anything to do with the problem
S? S1?
geo-rge: just leave him be
its a waste of time
time is very valuable
geo-rge well just thinking … thetime i spent to see that will not work and i dont want to use ubuntu … so i need to think to start to use things that probably work like othersos
but you can see he wants it to work, right?
okay .. so he’s been whining for what .. 30 minutes .. does anyone even know which chipset he has ?
just kick him and be done with it
Try Linux Mint.
http://linuxmint.com/
geo-rge i spent 5 years join money to have one laptop i dont use windows for … more then one year … i use debian … i have one new toy for 2 mouths … and the machine is stoped … understand now? i allreayd try help here and nobody can help me beford to that ok no problem it happens i
like debian to but itdont works what can i do?
how old are you?
what if linux mint’s firewall fails after a reboot :O
try a distro that doesn’t care about freedom
I suggest Ubuntu…
so .. right .. no one knows his chipset ?
nope
argh.
I added an unstable repository to my sources.list, now how can I apt-get install just one program? It prompts me to accept 200 MB worth of upgrades for dozens of other programs.
I dont know what chipset he has
I dont care really either
you can’t
calm down. more than likely you will be able to find a solution to your problem somehow. Just relax and tackle the problem in a little while. Go relax yoru mind, smoke a cig, jerk off, watch porn whatever it is that you need to do
Oh, wow.
wireless must die
it will e alright
!tell null__ about simple sid backport
now that was weak
he hasn’t been the slightest bit specific yet about his situation
no
so basically .. trolling ?
spelling out shit like fuck is lame
Nyle does have a point, he needs to chill out
you? talking about calm? we all know your a loose end waiting to snap
if you say so
hehe
why? it works fine here
paalease, your the most unstable pothead in this channel stoned
vsyncs are in kHz and hsyncs in Hz, right?
it doesn’t matter .. he doesn’t want to discuss his issue .. he just wants to whine/bitch
and we all know you can’t spell “you’re”
right … or just give up and use things that work
then DO IT
no, been messing that up for going on 5 years now
I can’t deal with this shit…
like I said… either you’re willing to do the hard work or you’re not
its the ones who vent that are normal
the quiet ones are the ones that snap
personal attacks are fairly useless. I mean, you are just some dude online, and I should care about your opinion why exactly?
ok whatever …. that ok guys
Can someone explain to me why it makes sense for it to require downloading 200 MB of updates just to install one program?
dependencies
“serenity now”
check the hardware for linux compatability next time before you buy it
hehe
serenity now, insanity later
hehe
That does make sense.
Nyle i say many times there are drivers thta works for everything here … even the webcam
could it be you’re downloading something from a -different- dist?
I am much to quiet
too
l
take up hunting?
Nope, just a -um- I think updated version of vlc. How can I find out what version# apt-get will download and install?
ah .. no
!tell null__ about backports
apt-get policy pskage name
err apt-cache
fighting wild animals would be a good way to vent
shark wrestling
or die while screaming
we could start a reality show about shark wrestling
in a linux router/dns/dhcp server, how do i set the private ip i want to give the router?
the thing is, that trying to get binary packages from a dist that is not the same will require support for those binaries… you’re better off compiling it
starring gentoo users ?
we could film it in the bahamas
I got the set up all ready
yeah sure gentoo users is fine
I think I will compile it.
we just tell them we are going to film them swimming in HD
okay .. ignore what i say ..
nevermind the red stuff in the water
its just to add a nice tint to the water
use troubled slackware users as chum?
heh
build-dep also wants to get 200 MB of stuffz. So… :p
that might be a crime
so you’ll need the dev libs and other such to support the compiling
did you check backports.org ?
gentoo users ought to be able to swim rather fast though
like… compiler?
bah .. no vlc there iether
if they use the right compile flags
or slower if they make a mistake
yeah
telnet 192.168.0.14 80, when i type in GET, it gets my the page, but i cannot access the webpage when i type 192.168.0.14
not sure the .00001 nano seconds speed advantage would help them though
I am right now one with the universe
totally zen
what happens ?
how did that happen?
no pot, fasting, praying
etc.
nothing
I went to a hot dog stand… he made me one with everything…
lynx 192.168.0.14 does what?
geo-rge: i hate you
no pot?
lol
try another browser
ah you mean herbs?
indeed i do
doesn’t work on ie nor firefox
ganja?
lynx 192.168.0.14 does what?
at least you respond quickly
I wonder where the term pot came from
that i do
it never made sense to me
ask wikipedia
i like potusa
good band
who do you pray to?
the browser just sits there for about a minute and then times out
maybe you should just msg him ?
the geo-rge god!
The One True God
The Mighty Leaf.
he prays to Shred0r, the God of Shred
listening on port 80 but nothing comes through?
ah
hey hows it going?
that I do
To format a simple fat32 file system, I just run mkfs.vfat /the/device?
it’s going.
yep.
shred on any instrument is awesome
Ok, thanks
i don’t know, i can telnet into it, it’s baffling the he@@ out of me
be it ravi shankar on sitar, or batio on guitar
lynx 192.168.0.14 does the same thing
what do apache logs say? does netstat show any of this?
HTTP request sent; waitning for response
logs just say apache2 is resuming normal operations
firewall rules?
none
accept everything
you are doing all this on the same host as the apache2 is installed on?
no
i’m ssh’d into it
lynx localhost ?
lynx localhost show anything in your ssh session?
lynx 127.0.0.1 show anything in your ssh session?
hang on, i have to install lynx on the webserver
localhost and 127.0.0.1 are supposed to be the same thing in most cases
yes, it shows IT WORKS!!!
maybe links or w3m was on there already?
is there a firewall involved ?
router or firewall rules or null route of conflicting MAC or other causing an issue?
well i have a smoothwall for internet connection sharing but i’m trying to access the webserver from the internal lan
but using your smoothwall as the router?
check your smoothwall logs
yes, but the webserver didn’t work before i put it in, i’ve only had it for a couple days
how owuld i find out if there is a duplicate mac
if your workstation has no firewall than it must be a firewall or routes on the webserver
i have everything set to accept, there are no reules
check your routes and IPs on web server as well and firewall
check your routes and IPs and firewall on your workstation
i’m using an xp workstation
clear browser cache and restart browser
good point, lame browser cache issue was quite common and likely still is
nothing
hold down control button and click reload ?
nothign
what does your webserver logs say?
what i can’t figure out is i can access it from a remote client via telnet
log says absolutely nothing, accept when i telnet, or just now when i used linx on the server
proxy? cache? squid?
i’m bypassing squid, when i enable it it says, 0 sized return
8 2007] [debug] worker.c(1740): AcceptMutex: sysvsem (default:
this just popped out
OH NO .. A MUTEX!
what’s that mean?
danger
sorry .. it’s late
what can i do?
troubleshoot and fix it
nothing in your error/access logs at all?
i’ve been trying
what about using netstat
?
where’s the “static-routes” file in debian?
for every connection i initiate, a line is added that never goes away
that says what ?
684
your firewall is not right … on one of the systems
814
well it has to be on the server because no cleint works
can you shut down the firewall without issue ?
ye
s
why is tcp6 showing an IPv4 address?
i dunno there is something f’d up
it’s supposed to
pardon my ignorance, I have avoided IPv6
or rather .. that’s normal looking
would the webservers route have anything to do with it?
never mind
when i ping 192.168.0.14, which is the local host, it ways unknown host
but ping localhost works
127.0.0.1 is localhost 192.168.0.14 is supposed to be on one of the NICs
yes
netmask?
routes?
when you ping by number, it says unknown host?
yes
check the address
routes are good
that’s not supposed to happen
the -address-
i get that
ifconfig -a eth0 ?
the thing you’re -pinging-
ping 192.168.0.14 is the exact command i’m tying
unknown host l92.168.0.14
ok
try making the first char a ONE not an ELL
ifconfig -a check your interface config /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf …
ifconfig is fine
notice the first char of the address is an L not a 1
no its not
hi, im just installing vmware server but the script has hit an error. It is looking for an IP adress of the host on my private network.
look at the message that came back. I am.
/usr/bin/vmware-ping: not found
/etc/host has an entry: 192.168.0.14 poplarswitchboard
and that works fine
try pinging again, and this time put the right char in
geo-rge: i tried not with my number pad AND the normal numbers same thing
unknown host l92.168.0.14
it seems when i paste it in here it looks different
look at the first char, and the fifth char
when i ping poplarswitchboard, it replys fine
it says L92.168.0.14
where the L is lowercase in the actual message
this would explain why it would say “unknown host”, a message produces ONLY for domain NAMES
produced that is
how can i generate a random password from command line?
pwgen
sorry, i see it now, i can ping it fine
excuse me
np… resistance really is futile
but i’m no closer to a solution………………
heh
is an nvidia 8800gts too new for the nvidia driver?
!htfswk gpogo
How The Fuck Should We Know?
no
and I’m talking about the resistance you had to looking at what you did, not your nick
even tho it is a tempting target
oh i get u’re pun i get it
thanks, I had some issues my last go and it just resulted in a blank screen. this time I made sure to set up openssh-server
uthanks, I had some issues my last go and it just resulted in a blank screen. this time I made sure to set up openssh-server/u
if all else fails, you can backport from lenny or sid
i cant understant wtf the server would just quit, and not work anymore
now im wondering if my ethernet card isn’t balled
http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Installing_tovid/Debian
any reason why selecting ‘unstable’ or ’sid’ brings a 404
is the web page on the same machine as the one you’re telnettng/lynxing from?
no, i can telnet from a different machine, but lynx will only work on the localhost
firewall!
or hostname parameter in apache config
ok, where
hi hostname
er.
i should finish my lines or delete em
delete em! delete em!
that was meant for someone a while ago hehe
j/k
geo-rge: wouldn’t you think the log would show it requesting it though ?
word
yes but he says he can telnet to port 80
i want to convert a server from linux to windows… it as a marvel 6081 SATA controller… anybody have experience with mv_sata vs. sata_mv - neither worked for me a couple of years ago when i tried this the first time.
and does the log show that request ?
i love grinding drums and brutally sick death metal with insane shredz0rz
muuaha
yes when i telnet, otherwise no
try this:
why?
it doesn’t
lynx http://192.168.0.12/
from which host ?
windows
linux (had it backwards…)
oh ok
well again why?
hi.. after some help installing etch onto promise TX2000 controller in RAID 1 (done it too long ago for RH9, can’t remember)
I know the reasons I would… but what are yours?
geo-rge: from which host?
i find it’s easier to manage linux servers, and there’s less overhead for the os.
from 192.168.0. NOT 12
ok, same thing
yeah, you should consider switching then
so you can telnet 192.168.0.12 80
geo-rge: i tried to build this as a linux box the first time around, but there was no support for the sata controller… i wonder if it’s better now.
from the NOT.12?
yes, but the host is .14, not .12
ok .14 has the web server on it? or .12?
but yes i can telnet into the machine from a remote host via telnet, when i type GET, i get the webpage data
.14 is the webserver
ohh
then, from .12,
So what is it with the console not being able to use the so-called ‘line drawing’ characters? Something change in the linux termtype or ncurses or … ?
i’m trying to connect from .1 and .30
.1 is another debian machine
lynx http://192.168.0.14/
.30 is a xp machine
on, i tried that from .1 nothing
you tried that EXACT line? (remember, we recently experienced resistance to verifying things are correct… so much so that I’d entertain the idea of having you pay me…)
can you ping .14 from .1?
ok, u fix this problem i pay u
.1 says:
dpkg –get-selections shows linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 install and linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 install. Can I safely remove linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 ?
it’s your insecure backup kernel .. but yes
HTTP request sent; waiting for headers, Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted
So what is it with the console not being able to use the so-called ‘line drawing’ characters? Something change in the linux termtype or ncurses or … any suggestions?
ncurses
all right thanks
cant access http://192.168.0.14/
Unables to access document
hmm, ok, from the same machine (.1?)
did he shut off the firewall yet?
can you do ping 192.168.0.14
no idea
where is it located
yes, no firewall on
remember the telent
telnet
I wonder if the problem is not with the lynx binary
if the telnet worked, lynx on the same machine should have worked
well, firefox does this, ei does this, lynx does this………
when you do it from .1?
well firefox and ie fail from .30
ok,
as root on .14
can he make it work from the server if he uses the server IP ?
look at the output of iptables -L
yes abrotma
n
input, policy accept
output policy accept
forward policy accept
nothing else
so it’s empty
yes
that’s good…
is the same true on .1?
.1 is my firewall
I get that
hence the .1
which means it’s probably not empty…
ok, would it be better if i tried on a different debian machine
by what means is .1’s firewall rules set up?
smoothwall
is it a debian machine?
its build on debian, yes
why not try ipmasq instead?
but i don’t know if you can call it a “debian machine”
what’s different?
well it’s just a very bare installation
oh, ok… how is smoothwall present?
from a package?
well, i used a different debian machine to build the iso
this iso was for installing debian?
no just smoothwall, but like a said earlier, the webserver didn’t work before i put in the smoothwall
ok i have a different debian box here
192.168.0.4
and its iptables -L?
same all accept, empt
y
ok, try pinging .14
oh forward is dropped
so it’s different?
ok, i set it to accept
hmm, I’m still a bit skeptical… but let’s try.
ping 192.168.0.14
responses?
ok, i can fine
not able to read that response.
time=0.312 ms
ok, so it does ping.
telnet 192.168.0.4 80
works fine
does this machine (.4) have a gui?
i can get it if i have to
hang on
well let’s ignore that part for now
ok
don’t do that yet (for reasons of what I need to do in a few minutes)
first try lynx http://192.168.0.14/
hang on i have to install on this one
lynx
ok i gets the error again
ok, we
yes, we
are going to pause for now (maybe for tonite… havent’ decided yet)
hey, i’m paying by the hour here
can .4 surf the web ?
what’s a .4?
etch + promise TX2000 help anyone? can it be done?
hehe noob question guys
how do i install stuff? .
Geoff—: that’s your private business
i can use apt-get
apt-get install package
but I like sharing my private business
Hi
try #ubuntu
excuseme
seriously though… does debian have dmraid or anything that will recognise a fakeraid mirror as a single drive?
kubuntu live CD is excelent for using IRCs
yes
specially when you have problems installing debian
Geoff—: i’m using the X GUI…how do i input commands like that?
that way -
so you’re -purposely- trolling
X will have a package manager… but failing that open a terminal window and type it in there.
bye
now is better
bahaha.. i dunno if ubuntu really wants to be like debian
Geoff—: how do i open a terminal window?
and that’s my cue
Geoff–: yes i choose a synonym
what
hey there
I have some problems installing debian, i have a HP dv6000 laptop and after installing debian with netinst CD, it tries to boot, but after some seconds the screen gets in black it has an Nvidia, someone has an idea what’s happening?
may be the hd
i can mount in my live CD the filesystem
so stop trying to start X .. look in the X log
how?
.
which version of debian is it ?
etch
4.0
stable
last one
try appending: nodma to the grub boot stanza
nodma?, i am like new in something else than windows, unfortunately and i speak spanish . So let me see if i understand it, i add to the GRUB a line ‘nodma’?
!es
Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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I was following web site a guide off of the gentoo website to install xfce4 on my system after installing gentoo linux
but i checked this one, linked on your howto, today: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Apache_Modules_mod_php
Hi there. Does anyone know what evolutions “profile” use flag does?
i still dont understand how you have the module but not the conf when they are both supplied by php
equery uses evolution
I see. why emerge isn’t generating 70_mod_php.conf is a mystery to me but certainly the biggest part of the problem. might try googling (or ask #gentoo-apache) for a skeleton
http://genx.easyshellz.com/gentoo/etc/70_mod_php5.conf
i just copied a system from one puter to another, but now all my dependancies are being resolved as circular.
any ideas?
i don’t either
i read that. copied it already.
KWhat_Work, “Adds profile support to builds of packages (will likely vary from ebuild to ebuild in support)”. Well, that doesn’t say that much
restart apache and should be all good
alveraan, it is likely to support profiling.
Draconx|Laptop, ok thanks
at least i got a php-error now! yay!
you’re gold, congrats
it add support for multiple profiles. ie different profiles have different configs settings etc
anyone know how long it take s to emerge -av kde-meta ?
KWhat_Work, ah.. which can be changed on the fly so one doesn’t have to logout
and is there input needed throw the install ?
i dont know if evolution can do it on the fly but something like that
one can only guess WILDLY but probably 6-10 hours, give or more likely take 4
very different on many systems somewhere between 24hrs and a week
wow
How can i know from what ebuild is a file?
its been my experience that you dont eff with evolution due to the overwhelming amount of bugs. If it works dont touch it.
what is the fastest way ?
thanks, it works now
equery d /path/to/file
qfile filename or equery f filename
sorry equery b /path/to/file
YES
equery!
KWhat_Work, Yeah maybe. But once it is stable, it works like a charm
equery b /path/to/file. equery is in gentoolkit
er equery b filename
i didn’t rememver the command
emerge -1av kdebase-meta will give you a functional kde system already. then you can emerge kde-meta
thanks u all :***
which package provides the aoss command?
equery f works, after a while
will this emerge 1av kdabase-meta give me the graphical part of kde or is it still just cli ?
qfile /path/to/file is much faster, comes from ‘portage-utils’
please could someone who has aoss do an equery b `which oss`?
it will give you the desktop, provided that you already emerged xorg-x11 and some login manager such as kdm
isn’t it in alsa-oss ?
all i have done at this point is use handbook to install gentoo and emeger irssi
koollman, thanks i’ll reinstall
so i need to emerge xorg-x11 and emerge kdm ?
koollman, install even
not kdm if you intend on a -meta let it pull it in
that will give you a graphical login screen.
yo
any1 good with recompiling the kernel?
ok so just emerge xorg-X11 ?
whats your issue
kdebase and kdebase-meta both depend on kdm
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
on second thought, maybe not
jrup, look here http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml, section “Installing your Desktop”
one way it will block
i forget
kdebase includes it i think
hi folks. I have a FLAC and a cuesheet and I want single files out of it. Any hints for that?
kk thanks
hi all, what’s the simplest way (as in lite) to get a higher resolution console at boot? i’ve read the wiki but i get the feeling i don’t need 90 procent of all that stuff, i don’t want graphics just a slightly higher rez. (ati-drivers/gentoo sources)
hey can some1 help me with a make error when im trying to recomplie my kernel
and my system time is being gay
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer_Support
pr00f, what’s the error?
I ran the command to fix expat with GTK+, however I am still receiving errors when I try to compile it. I’m on an AMD64. http://pastebin.com/m7fbc9c1
ill nopaste oiit
tobi?
anyone else having expat errors on x8_64?
x86_64*
Humm ok forget hp-check, I can print a test page from cups but I cannot get open office 2.3 to print using the cups printer. How do I fix this?
did you read the topic?
tomboy64, I’ve read the topic, and I’ve run the expat command mzbot will give you for gtk+
tomboy64, still getting the error
New nvidia drivers completely fix my compiz-fusion crashes, woot.
compiled OOo with USE=cups ?
grep for libexpat.so.0 in /lib and /usr/lib, those need to be rebuilt
DCC SEND linuxusershaveneckbeards 0 0 0
chithead, I don’t have those… how do I go about rebuilding them?
“grep -r libexpat.so.0 /lib /usr/lib” will give you a list of files. the packages these files belong to need to be rebuilt.
killed.
I have amd64 so I’m using the openoffice-bin version
I have amd64 too and I use openoffice, not -bin
what is gentoo??
~google gentoo
!google gentoo
http://www.gentoo.org/
^^
oh guess i thoiught it was masked or something
close enough
it’s not a file manager.
what is it though
ok, while I wait for program to compile; Why doesn’t GQView display jpg images? I have permissions and I’ve compiled with USE=”jpg jpeg png” options…
gentoo is a penguin and a linux distro
yo
r u all nerds?
Mantaar,
disco?
yes, on amd64 you need to put it in package.keywords
someone ban that troll pls
??
http://rafb.net/p/v2shsg22.html
theres the error
ive been trying to get my sound card 2 work
the bin version is now compiled without cups though? it worked before
mladinov, you could ask serious/relavent questions
proof, where is the error?
http://rafb.net/p/v2shsg22.html
that link
some of us are geeks, I’m sure..
maybe you are missing some other package. does downgrading openoffice-bin fix the issue?
Kyle was going to get it good. The big black sweaty beefy bodies were naked now… glistening. Their huge dick logs so thick and heavy they couldn’t even stand up when they were erect, they hung like logs, dripping pre cum and who knows what the fuck else. I think maybe some of them were
diseased. So I’d have to take the kid to my friend the doc after this little party. Well, he’d have to go anyway because I was sure his asshole would b
e ripped some and need stitches.
I can print a test page from cups that’s all know =P
oops wrong channel
also I can print from writer just not calc =P
thx, blackace…
yep, thx blackac
e
^^
np
oh well if you can print from writer then the fault is just your OOo printer configuration
what error? read the log..
proof, sorry I don’t see any error in there
???
http://rafb.net/p/v2shsg22.html
proof, nope, still no error
Has anyone had experiences running glchess without gnome-games installed? I want it, but I don’t want that freakin’ gnome stuff, yet python goes totally AWOL when I try running…
that’s a normal kernel make/make modules_istall/make install
hrmm alright
How can I split a pdf into seperate PDFs of each page?
lol i think i cut the bottom off gimmie 1 sec
pdfsplit
I think since OOo 2.3 the printer settings are saved along with the document. can you print a newly created table?
try the pdfjam package. It lets you perform lots of crazy stuff with pdf.
can anyone tell me why gqview refuses to display jpg images (it doesn’t even see them) when I have permissions and compiled it with USE=”jpg jpeg png” enabled?
is it somewhere in portage?
wam, i’ll have a look
trying it…
good luck
it’s not called pdfsplit, but pdfjam should provide you with a tool for that.
Anyone have any issues with wine running Steam?
don’t remember the exact name right now.
pdftk will allow you to split and merge pdfs
Well, that’s what I thought, but seems it’s not there , when I looked at it. pdftk will indeed be the better choice…
why can root play sound through aplay but nothing else can play sound even when compiled with the USE=”alsa”?
yes i can
thanks!
what settings do I need to fix in the old sheets? Is there some converter? this is going to suck if I have to change every document to get it to print
audio group?
ezerhoden, in it
so, good luck. never used it though, gotta try it next paper xD
open the document then go to printer settings, maybe some non-existant printer is configured there
ezerhoden, root can’t even play audio through mplayer using alsa…
I want to emerge xsane to scan but udev is blocking sane-backends…. unmerging udev seems kinda scary.. ?
ezerhoden, and alsamixer and alsactl work just fine…
is there an error message if you run “mplayer -ao alsa some-file”
@tomboy64: I’ll have to use it pretty soon. Gotta extract text out of MS-Word generated files and tex it and that in a script… woohoo… sounds like FUN!
stealth, yeah I wouldn’t unmerge udev ^^
no sound.”
hi, I experience this odd problem with xorg-server 1.4-r1, latest nvidia-drivers and kde 3.5.7. Windows, when being restored from the main panel, show themselves only with a little lag.
cool, “pdftk figures.pdf burst” worked!
tex
the restore animation is shown, then half a second nothing, and then the window finally shows.
sorry my modem sucks..
my error is
are you maybe using 32 bit mplayer-bin on a 64 bit system and not emul-linux-alsa-* ?
/sbin/installkernel: line 66: mkboot: command not found
make[1]: *** [install] Error 127
*** [install] Error 2
chithead, this is actually on a 32bit laptop
this is from plain kde, I suspected compiz first, but kwin shows the same symptoms…
chithead, I know confusing, but since these expat errors I cannot compile xchat (or use X) on the AMD64, so I’m using xchat on a laptop, also running Gentoo
not going to work. I have to re-lay out the whole stuff, including consequently numbered pages, sections and subsections.
just learn how to install kernels manually | cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel_name , and alter your grub.conf/menu.lst accordingly
If you manage to automate that, shoot me an e-mail: wily@bur.st
stealth, this might be a stupid guess but do you have more than one udev version installed? (no idea if that’s possible)
how do i make 1 particular application install as 32bit instead of 64bit?
you can install it inside a 32-bit chroot, if necessary
Hello, can anyone tell me where I can find a url for fetching the stage from the internet?
X cpu usage pops up to 53% upon said effect
which stage?
how do i start chroot in 32bit mode?
i was looking in the handbook didnt really explain unless i over looked it
Google is your friend.
where can I get a version of ‘tail’ that would accept “tail +line_num” instead of “tail -n +line_num” ?
@wilymage: a co-student manged it and did it pretty well. I’ll use a c-proggie to extract the text and a perl script to munch through it with regexes to tag section titles. So far for the theory. I’ll drop you a line.
quit 123
write bash script? pretty straight forward..
ajmorris_, http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/chroot.xml
menu.lst = lilo?
wilymage hell I’ll do it from scratch this is a faster machine
this only seems to affect terminal windows…
menu.lst is grub.conf alternative name
progo, no, that’s grub
nope grub, used to be called menu.lst, they’ve migrated to grub.conf but kept the symlink
proof, grub
tks, just went to that
I guess stage3 will bebest though 8 )
Yes.
wget stage3 and portage snapshot and you’re good to go.
k
how do i found out the kernel name that
usually I just call it the name of the sources, like linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r9 or whatever.
I’m rather new at this 8 )
you’re better off having a ‘new’ and ‘current’ symlink pointing to the actual kernel in /boot, I find
would that over right the one your using?
no, you specify which kernel to use in grub.conf
all my video players can’t run videos using aac audio, since last world update..
i know the kernel im using now i switch to the oldkennel but how do i differentiate
what is the command to mkfs reiserfs?
dealer, enable the a52 use flag
grub
the one 1 just compiled and the one that im using now
grub.conf?
I see what you mean. Just call the kernels different things if you have two builds of the same version. Put symlinks like ‘new’ and ‘current’ in your grub.conf, then in /boot: ln -s kernel-blah-blah new
That way when you build new kernels you can just change the symlinks rather than editing grub.conf every time
how can i fix that?
mkfs.reiserfs
chithead, is that on the mininstallcd?
chithead, thanks btw
should be
just add a52 to your global use flags in /etc/make.conf and do a emerge -uDNv world
I still can’t seem to find a url for the stage3
figured it out now, for some reason when you are printing a file in the dialog it lets you choose 3 options, “print all”, “range”, or “selection”. I was entering a range and trying to print the range of sheets. For some reason on old xls sheets, there is an additional option under a button
“options” that defaults to on, “print selected sheets only”…. this hidden option overrules whatever you choose on the main dialog. So no
-U%” works fine and shows all samba shares, but cannot find one link from //server box. What is wrong?
How do I set up Hg?
Trying to solve a couple of problems. #1, keyboard led lights. num, caps, and scroll lock lights are not lighting up. 2. Numpad keys are unresponsive excpet for pad-enter key. I just recently upgraded from xorg-server 1.3 to 1.4 and yes I have rebuilt my kbd driver.
mirrors
Google is your friend: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml
I was at that page but then I’m not sure in which of the sub directories it is
Could not create /home/jrup/.irssi dirrectory ?
releases/snapshots ??
distfiles?
ShadeS, are you reading the gentoo guide?
think I found it ..
ShadeS, *installation* guide
i had a issue with finding the snapshoot on one mirror as well
I’m not really following the guide persay. I’m refering to it in times of trouble
The ones I keep finding are for networkless installs
I’m not sure if doig a networked install will be ‘better’ or not
look on the canadian mirrors i think 2nd one .. there you will find the snapshoots
Perhaps following the guide would abate the necessity for you to clarify steps here?
what is a good command line mail client?
Last time I did it I did a networked install cause I ran the bootstrap script to do a stage 1 install.
pine
hello everyone. I am running compiz fusion on a Intel 965GM chipset. C-F starts fine, as I can see the windows wobble. But as soon as I try to minimize the window the whole system hangs. What could be the problem?
mutt, but try both
ShadeS, follow the guide, it is useful. Anyway, the dirctory is releases
ok ok i see what u mean
name a lot.. i’m going ot see which i like best
ill just name the new kernel kernel -blah blah-new
Had a similar problem with my NVidia card, but the latest drivers fixed it.
ok ok ok but the problem still is when i compile the kernel im trying to get to work with my sound card i get an error
Anyone have any ideas as to why I have lost my numpad keys?
wilymage, I am using the intel driver :-S
you could try disabling the Windows minimising effect?
i get those errors
wilymage perhaps 8 )
/sbin/installkernel: line 66: mkboot: command not found
make[1]: *** [install] Error 127
*** [install] Error 2
wilymage, it even dies if I try to turn the desktop cube
do I need to PB the smb.conf and the log files?
if you copy /usr/src/linux/arch/{your-arch}/boot/bzImage to /boot/kernelname, that installs the kernel.
you needn’t ‘make install’
is the pkglist for ‘emerge –resume’ saved in a file somewhere?
Maybe he should use genkernel.
proof, and don’t forget to mount /boot if not done already ^^
sorry to hear that, but after the hundred-odd hard-freezes I experienced in the last few months, I do feel like gloating a little
The active vm could not be found
how to fix?
wilymage,
Is there a good tool to crop PDFs? pdfcrop doesnt work somehow!
oh well, networkless it is then
what exactly do mean by ‘crop’
I assume he means ’split pages’
will anyone be kind enough to help me out?
cut out a piece
http://rafb.net/p/jTRzOJ55.html
:nyk2005: pages or images? If the former, pdfsplit will do.
or.. pdftk ^^
pages…
is it possible to change CHOST=”x86_64-pc-linux-gnu” to CHOST=”i686″ and CFLAGS=”-march=k8″ to CFLAGS=”-march=pentium4″ and recompile your system so it could run on a p4?
NO
only have about 30 minutes left, can use some quick help, if that is possible.
no (and the proposed setting for CHOST isn’t valid by the way).
pdfsplit doesn cut off the lower border somehow!
TBotNik_g, you’d probably be better of in a samba channel
yo sorry modem went out again
kerframil, now that you mention it i remember that it isn’t exactly i686
comcast is frustrating me
aah, so you want to actually _modify_ those pages… uhm.. no idea
open here and on #samba and #linux, but is Gentoo box.
but i under stand about changing the kernel name
yes.
but what do u do about those make errors?
tied “pdfcrop –margins ‘10 10 10 30′ –clip f1.pdf o.pd”, but it doesnt cut the lower border…
they’re make install errors, not make errors
is there a vector editor?
there’s no problem with your make, if you install your kernel as I suggested, you’ll be fine
well then rotate it and cut the former lower border
ok
i am having another problem with getting my ps2 mouse to work in X…i get “dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so: undefined symbol: miPointerGetMotionEvents”
thats an idea!
and a couple more errors about failing to load the mouse modules
if you just upgraded to xorg-server-1.4, rebuild the keyboard & mouse modules again
did you try to recompile xf86-input-mouse?
now I get it… it’s just cutting of the empty stuff, not INTO the page
besides, the P4 acquired x86_64 support at least 3 years ago.
kerframil, i’m using a 1.8ghz northwood
http://rafb.net/p/GAlNgC70.html (Xorg 1.4-r1, latest nvidia drivers, strange lags with terminal windows and these messages seem to be connected)
chithead, thanks that did the trick
where is the grub.conf again?
boot?
ah, you’re out of luck then.
proof, /boot/grub
80% of CPU usage and the delevery is much slow than clamdscan?
ok a compiled kernel
copied it over
and conf grub.conf
i noticed a lot of dif kernel builds in boot
how do i get rid of the ones im not using anymore
rm?
proof, yes
or emerge –depclean
rm, also, I think it would be prudent if you read a guide on basic UNIX commands.
my kernels used to be called vmlinux i changed it to kernel name-new… that should be ok right?
as long as you have a reference to the new name in grub.conf
http://mally.stanford.edu/~sr/computing/basic-unix.html
k
How can I add a bounding box to a PDF?
The active vm could not be found
how to fix?
it`s for sun-java-sdk
well i guess lets try a reboot and see what happens
proof its now or never
proof, if you don’t come back we’ll assume the worst
The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files
I have NetworkManager installed and working/running
I got a problem with mounting writable dvds. I get the following error: http://www.pastebin.ca/709745 Anyone know whats up?
Uh, it’s trying to mount it as FAT?
its set as auto in fstab
paste your fstab line
/dev/dvd /mnt/dvd auto defaults 0 0
How can i see what options i used with a ./configure previously?
You could dissect this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-gtk/+bug/126767
#gentoo-xeffects i mean
oops wrong window
what happens if you just mount /dev/hdc /dev/dvd ?
let me see
how do i stop RUBYOPT from being set?
block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
/dev/hdc: can’t read superblock
^that
looks like a bad burn
its a blank dvd
how can i make a joystick work with any X app?
theres nothing on it
yet
do i have to modify xorg.conf?
..
vi xorg.conf tatsh
that’s why you can’t mount it, fool.
what made you think you could mount a blank cd? use k3b or something man
or nano -w
k
is there a specific driver or is there a generic one?
i have kernel support for the device
…
but it doesn’t do anything in an X app other than kcontrol
why would you possibly want to mount something with no filesystem?
then how do I burn onto it
if you want to burn something, given your level of expertise, install k3b
this place become annoying again
i have k3b
lol
that’s why you can’t mount it, fool.
too harsh?
eh ty
regardless
my question was
now its telling me the iso is too large
is there a specific driver or is there a generic one for joysticks
XD
bah, please don’t make me sit through that /names again
udev question- i am trying to write a rule to identify a device by the model, but udevinfo lists this as ATTR{model}==”model here”, there are no SYSFS{} things listed. can i use the ATTR in udev rules?
wilymage, looks like it might help, unfortunately i’m not using olive-gtk
Play nice then. Realize that there will always be users under (and over) your skill level inhere.
I can see what you are trying to do and, in order to do that, you need packet writing support in th ekernel.
yeah I know, was just the only patch I could find that looked pertinant
is there a good howto out there that covers closing the laptop lid as an acpi event?
I’m aware of this. I’m not new here. I’m helpful. I was being tongue-in-cheek. EOF
mmm
just hack up the default.sh file
rubiks120, ^^
kerframil doesn’t matter now
but i do have another issue
luck?
damn modem
yea it works
i got a clock error
make files moded in the future
stupid clock
tongue-in-cheekness is difficult to perceive through text chat
how can i test my sound
I will take a look at it not 100% sure on exactly how to do that though
i have no .wav
/dev/dsp
rubiks120, me neither, check in /usr/share/doc, might be something
make sure your sound isn’t turned up too high.
shouldnt be hard though
http://www.pastebin.ca/709750
k
add yourself to the plugdev user group then log out and back in again.
ah yea
I am still having trouble with random crashes when swapping virtual terminals. It doesn’t happen everytime, just randomly. Aside from installing a new video card, how can I diagnose whether this is a hardware issue, or software?
i forgot to do that
ty kerframil
/dev/dsp will only work with proper OSS emulation. If you want to test alsa directly instead (I’ll recommend ALSA), do: aplay - /dev/urandom
beandog, well there really isnt much to the default.sh script I know I have messed with some acpi stuff before
rubiks120, yah that is a lot smaller than I thought.
beandog, I am looking at some of the scripts under events right now it seems to be that what happens in one of the events scripts gets passed through the default.sh script
rubiks120, right, when an acpi state changes, acpid will call that event name
yo no sound
so, you hit the power button, runs poweroff
etc.
or you can change it to suspsend or whatever
alsasound doesnt give me an error when its loading though
i have no idea whats wrong
and the events scripts just call scripts in the action folder
right
so I guess you just wanna find the event name for when you close your lid
you’ve unmuted before, right?
and script something in there for that case
when it says MM its muted right
yeah
im unmuted
gotta press ‘m’ in order to unmute
ahh aplay yes, I’ve had OSS compatibility for so long I forgot about that.
?
comcast is gonna die…
problem with expat again… E17 will not build… here is the pastebin of the error… http://pastebin.com/m7e5e4774
proof__, ? that was random!
beandog, the problem there is when I close my lid I lose my screen completely it doesnt come back
my modem goes out ever 15 mins
yes, me too, but I don’t like it. I really want to get rid of it, but some stuff STILL uses it… *mumble*
but yea i configuered my kernel correctly im pritty sure
i made new image and booted it
rubiks120, right … adding an event can fix that.
y is it not working ….
rubiks120, since the default obviously isnt working.
just another bad habit I need to break..
rubiks120, look up vbetool stuff too, that should help fix the blanking issue.
I think.
dont quote me on that.
proof__, what sort of modem is it?
sb450
plenty of them, I’m sure… if it’s as bad as me ^^
Hello, How is everyone today?
surf board somthing or other
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proof__, a modem, an adsl modem, ?
i think
no comcast
broadband
beandog based on some stuff I found in gentoo thats what I need, but I also need to steal my roomates pc and take care of some stuff via ssh so I can get the needed information
anybody? A command to fix my expat issues with E17?
proof__, adsl, or some thing else?
must be dial-up..
http://pastebin.com/m7e5e4774
rubiks120, alright well good luck, I actually need to do the same with my laptop too, heh
beandog, well when I figure it out Ill pass my solution along
wilymage, i havnt seen a dail up modem in sooooo long
ok
* WARNING ***** You are currently installing a version of nvidia-drivers that is known not to work with a video card you have installed on your system. - so I need something older than 100.14.19?
I was following a guide off of the gentoo website to install xfce4 on my system after installing gentoo linux. It told me to do something with hald, and when I tried to do it, it says that it was not found. Can anyone explain to me what hald is and what I should do to get it?
rubiks120, Im fairly sure its a really simple fix.
I have a pile of a hundred in a cupboard next to my desk, heh
luckz, what card do you have?
meinzorn, emerge hal
4600
luckz, yes
meinzorn, hald == hal daemon
luckz, you need the nvidia-legacy driver, which, unfortunately, is only available through NVidia’s website
ok, so just type emerge hal, and it should fix it?
beandog, Im sure it is its just a matter of actually going through with everything, the ubuntu fix seems easy enough, I am just trying to work off that
hald is the hardware abstraction layer daemon and needed by some apps to properly work…
rubiks120, ubuntu fix? link?
that means manual compiling, or is there some overlay/similar that has it?
Mantaar, really? which ones actually need it?
luckz, it’s not hard, you just have to download the .run file and run it as root
what was the exact command you’ve been told to use
beandog, I dont have the link anymore it was on windows I have it saved as a google doc though
luckz, just a couple yes/no questions and it will compile it for you
rubiks120, ah okay, no worries
luckz, you’ll need to install gentoo-sources though
and I probably need to talk gentoo into believing that I have nvidia-drivers with a fake ebuild or so?
why do I need to install gentoo-sources?
I was left with the impression that GNOME-ish stuff depends on it. Especially those that configure your hardware. But I ditched GNOME so far and I